The player from Chile has been accused of placing bets higher than allowed. The casino confiscated her winnings. The complaint was rejected because the player didn't respond to our messages and questions.
During the weekend I found this casino, I found it interesting because of the deposit bonuses it had, I deposited the minimum amount (7500) I started playing and it looked like any online casino, I wanted to check how much I needed to complete my bonus and I realize that it was not just one but 3 bonuses which asked me to complete 800,000 pesos or more, I began to play little by little, small bets (100 or 200) normally in the games you come across the free spins that appear from from time to time and you also have the option to buy them, when you play with bonuses in some casinos they do not allow you to buy them until the end of the bonus, no matter how much you try they do not allow it but in other casinos they do allow you to buy them even if you have the bonus, In this case, if I was allowed to buy it, then I would start to invest 10,000 from time to time. At the end of the 3 bonds, I was left with a total of 379,900 pesos, clearly I was excited so I started the withdrawal process, although it is not very clear when it comes to wanting to transfer to a bank account (since it is in English and its translation into Spanish is not very clear) I thought that if I was able to fill in my information correctly, I asked how long it would take for that withdrawal to arrive (of all the times I spoke in the chat, they always spoke to me in English regardless of the time) and in 3 to 5 days business days I was going to be available, I verified my information and began to wait, today (4 business days after my request) I find myself with the unfortunate news that my withdrawal was rejected, for the following reason "As established in our bonus policy, Bets placed on any game that abuse the wagering system will not count towards wagering requirements.
We reserve the right to withhold any amount in excess of the player's original deposit from a player withdrawal, if the player placed individual bets equal to or greater than $3,000 or $375 per line, or 15% of the bonus amount prior to meeting the the wagering requirements of the particular bonus." you may think it was a matter of reading the terms of conditions, but still the casinos (or most of the ones I have played in) try not to disadvantage the player in the sense that if you are not allowed to spend more than a certain amount on bets When playing with an active bonus, the options that would make you spend more of it are blocked, this was not the case here, the system did not recognize that lack at the time, so I was not notified of anything, there was no dialogue or some Okay, I just went back into my account and my money was gone, only the amount of 8,000 pesos, clearly I wanted to find a solution since this made me very sorry, I spoke to the casino chat and for the first time they had spoken to me in Spanish , the person who answered me, the only thing he did was tell me "those are the terms and conditions" and closed the chat. They already gave me to understand that I lost that money, even though I asked for options or to be able to talk about it, the illusion that I had during these days waiting for my retirement makes me sad, I even recommended the casino to friends and family but I totally regret it, I stay with the lesson of reading all the terms well, but still this casino has no consideration for its players, not even to block the options that could harm when wanting to withdraw money.
Dear camilin,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your negative experience. I checked the bonus T&Cs and I found this:
"When a bet abuses the betting system, no matter what game it is on, it will not count towards the player's wagering requirements. If the player placed individual bets equal to or greater than CLP$3000 or CLP$375 per line, or 15% of the bonus amount, before meeting the bonus wagering requirements, we reserve the right to withhold from the player's withdrawal any amount that exceeds the original deposit. In addition, if the player deposited via Skrill or Neteller and placed individual bets equal to or greater than CLP$1875 of the bonus amount before meeting the wagering requirements of the bonus, we reserve the right to withhold from the player's withdrawal any amount that exceeds the player's original deposit. If the player placed wagers on any game that contributes 0% to the wagering requirements prior to meeting the wagering requirements of the bonus, we reserve the right to withhold from the player's withdrawal any amount in excess of the player's original deposit."
Our position is closely explained in Fair Gambling Codex https://casino.guru/fair-gambling-codex-for-casinos#max-bets: The max bet rule is, in fact, an industry standard, just as the fact that a casino has the right to seize the player's winnings from bonus play after breaking this rule. We prefer not to go against industry standards by penalizing casinos that use the maximum bet rule against players from time to time.
However, if you feel like you have been accused mistakenly, feel free to forward me your game history together with a link to the specific bonus that you redeemed and played. My email address is kristina.s@casino.guru.
If there is any other relevant communication between you and the casino, please send it as well.
Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Kristina
Dear Kristina:
Along with greeting her and hoping that she is well, I have already learned my lesson and clearly sometimes I made bets that exceeded the allowed limit, even so the bonus terms were short and they gave me 3 bonuses to complete when I only requested one, out of fear to have the voucher taken away, I did not cancel any. As I said in my claim, what bothers me is that the casino has these terms as well as several others, but the difference is that if someone wants to spend more than what is allowed, the casino allows it despite having the bonus, perfectly the system could recognize it instantly and block the option so as not to harm the player, even if the occasion occurs when the player forgets that he is playing with a bonus (since completing almost one million pesos is not so easy and fast) and performs an individual bet greater than what is allowed, all that is won will have been for nothing. Along with what was already mentioned before, the other issue that led him to make my complaint is that the system could easily recognize these faults, notify itself at the moment that the voucher has already been failed and not give false illusions, since it allowed me to be able to register my I withdraw and wait 4 business days full of illusion only to find the bad news that they kept my money. I can understand that I made a mistake, but they have no consideration for the player, unlike other casinos that, in the case of having the same terms, only block the options that could harm you when finalizing a bonus. At this time I already see it as almost impossible for there to be a solution to this, but I just want to show my discomfort in the case since it can happen to anyone, I appreciate the opportunity they gave me to be able to write this and get it off my chest, since it is what only thing i can do it seems.
Beforehand thank you very much.
Thank you for your reply, camilin. I am afraid that if you breached this rule, there is not much more we could do. I understand your frustration and of course, we would like to see casinos implementing systems that would prevent players from placing higher than allowed bets, but, unfortunately, this is not standard practice yet. You were not stopped or blocked when you decided to increase your bet, and, as a result, you breached the maximum bet rule.
Sadly, there is not much I can do to support your case at this time. I would strongly recommend reading all the T&Cs carefully before you start playing to avoid any misunderstandings in the future. Casinos try to design their bonuses to be as attractive as possible, but the rules must always be followed. Please do not hesitate to contact me if there is anything else, I could do for you in this matter, otherwise, I will be forced to reject this complaint. Thank you for your understanding.