The player from Brazil had claimed that a casino game was manipulated, which caused him to lose his R$3000 deposit. He had questioned the game's RTP and had requested a refund. We had explained to the player the concept of the law of large numbers and how RTP worked, indicating that his experience did not necessarily imply game manipulation. The casino defended the fairness of the game, stating that the rounds were predetermined and certified by reputable RNG certifiers. The player had ultimately understood the situation and had asked us to close the complaint, acknowledging that he had always received prompt payments from the casino in the past. Therefore, we rejected the complaint as per the player's request.
500 Casino - Player alleges game manipulation.
Amount: 3,000 R$
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Case summary
7 months ago
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8 months ago
I'm here today to BOTH:
1) DISPUTE the loss of my deposit of R$3000 BRL
Because they CLEARLY RIGGED / MANIPULATED THE GAME from 8:25 AM to 10:00AM+ spent without giving A SINGLE GREEN (14x) result
This is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to spent AS MANY ROUNDS like this who last only less than 30 seconds between EACH, to spend ALMOST 2 HOURS STRAIGHT without giving a single 14x draw !
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2) To question THE LEGITIMACY of their '' in-house '' roulette game RTP, as well....
Because THEY STOLE ALL MY R$3000 deposit pretty much leaving me with just R$130 at time of recording THIS video here on below link
[sensitive information hidden by Casino Guru] <- (Here's the video i recorded about it showing the LAST GREEN that happened which i managed TO CATCH IT and then '' afterwards '' the INFINITE RIGGED sequence of blacks x reds started immediately and lasted for TWO HOURS, pretty much !
How many rounds were drawn, in this 2 TWO HOURS ?
I want them to tell me !
An INFINITE SEQUENCE of BLACKS & REDS only!
That lasted for 2 HOURS pretty much !
How can a PROVABLY FAIR game with only 14 numbers spend TWO HOURS STRAIGHT pretty much seeing ONLY BLACK & RED without giving A SINGLE green result ?
No way man !
It was DEFINITELY MANIPULATED / RIGGED today from 8:25am to 10:00++ am and i want to dispute this and get my money back from this scam !
Thanks
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8 months ago
Dear loirorico365,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your negative experience with 500 Casino.
Please understand that the lack of a result in a roulette game, where an outcome hasn't occurred for a long time is not proof of game manipulation.
The law of big numbers says that if you get very unlucky in the past you can expect to get average results in the future (you would have the same expectation if you get good or average luck in the past - what happened in the past doesn't matter in the present). And this average result will give you closer to the average result overall. For example, if red won on roulette 8 times of 10 in the first ten spins and then 5 times of 10 in the next ten spins, it's 13 times out of 20, much closer to theoretical expectation than 80% wins for red from first ten spins.
If you want to learn more about RTP we recommend you watch our videos about this topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0rVhAZL1-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9fzMDzadtA
Please let me know if there is any additional information that I have overlooked, but I’m afraid I will be forced to reject your complaint as unjustified. I wish I could be of more help. Thank you in advance for your reply and understanding.
Tomas
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8 months ago
OK you can close the complaint, however a particular outcome not showing on a roulette game with just 14 numbers, for 2 HOURS pretty much is DEFINITELY a sign of UNFAIR HANDS being dealt at the least....
(and possibly INDEED a manipulation) as i'm experienced on this game for LONG TIME and i have NEVER SEEN before this game even reach 0 COUNT at all, including reaching ZERO and STAYING AT 0 FOR 2 HOURS, that was EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS and DEFINITELY BIASED/POSSIBLY RIGGED...
But anyways all good.
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7 months ago
The game is provably fair and all the rounds and the rounds sequence are pre-determined at the start of the day when the seed resets. They cannot be tampered with. Furthermore, our randomness algorithm has been certified by reputable RNG certifiers.
This information is verifiable by anyone on the PF page. There is nothing wrong with the succession of events, just because you have "never seen it" it doesn't mean it's not a probable outcome or not possible.
Better luck next time,
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7 months ago
Better luck next time
Hello Thomas, you guys can close the complaint for good.
The truth is this guys never let me down on '' payments '' whenever i made winnings on there, they always paid them out in full, promptly and without any issues.
So i can understand now that this event was an '' unfortunate '' series that has never been seen before but that was never guaranteed not being possible to happen.
So i can understand that perfectly.
Thank you for all of your time.
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7 months ago
Thanks to both parties for their responses and points of view.
We’ve rejected this complaint as per the player’s explicit request. We are sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us in the future if you run into issues with any online casino. We are here to help.
