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I hardly know where to begin…
I have made several deposits on the website in question – always without any problems. Since my partner and I have joint finances, I have used her card on a couple of occasions. However, 90% of all deposits have been made with my own cards – never without any problems.
Now when I try to make a withdrawal the problems start. It is worth noting that this is only the third withdrawal I have made in total; the previous two went through without any problems.
Now the casino is doing everything it can to delay the process and avoid paying out my withdrawal. Below are their requirements for a simple withdrawal:
A color copy of the credit/debit card **14 // **62 // **72 that you used to top up your account (front and back). For security reasons, only the first 6 and last 4 digits of the card must be visible. The digits on the back and the CVV number must also be covered.
So they want me to send all the cards I've used as deposit methods - okay. I agree of course and think this should solve it. But no, it continues.
A color copy of the credit/debit card **62 that you used to top up your account (back). For security reasons, only the first 6 and last 4 digits of the card must be visible. The digits on the back and the CVV number must also be covered.
Please note that the card's expiration date must be visible.
Color copy of XX XX's passport/ID card.
Selfies of XX XX with your passport/ID card in front of our website wintopia.com.
Apparently, all the credit card copies weren't enough – now they had to find new reasons not to pay out my money. So what do I do? Of course, I send all these photos too: passport, ID card, selfies and all three bank cards again. What does it say then?
Please note that XX XX must take a selfie with his/her passport against the background of our website. You can see the example attached to the letter.
So now they ask for another set of selfies. But they make a mistake by first saying that XX XX should take a picture with my passport, and then writing that it should be taken with her own passport.
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It is clear that this is about delaying the process and avoiding paying out my money.
I am EXTREMELY disappointed, as I thought I had found a site that handled deposits and withdrawals smoothly, where I could play for large amounts. But apparently all the reviews on Trustpilot and on this site are true.
I will probably never see my 500 euros again 🙁
What makes this even worse is that I have deposited a total of around 2,000–3,000 euros in just two weeks, and I usually gamble for large amounts.
I'm fine with KYC - it's an important tool that must be used. However, I had already completed KYC when I joined, and based on that verification, it was fine for the casino to accept a large number of deposits.
When it came time to make a withdrawal, the problems suddenly started. And for every single action and document I submit (once they see that I actually have access to everything they ask for), they come back with new demands, each one more unusual than the last.
Being asked to take pictures of myself while holding documents in front of a computer screen and showing their website is simply absurd.
Jag vet knappt var jag ska börja…
Jag har gjort flera insättningar på den aktuella webbplatsen – alltid utan problem. Eftersom min partner och jag har gemensam ekonomi har jag vid ett par tillfällen använt hennes kort. 90 % av alla insättningar har dock gjorts med mina egna kort – aldrig utan problem.
Nu när jag försöker göra ett uttag börjar problemen. Det är värt att notera att detta bara är det tredje uttaget jag har gjort totalt; de två föregående gick igenom utan problem.
Nu gör casinot allt för att försena processen och undvika att betala ut mitt uttag. Nedan följer deras krav för ett enkelt uttag:
En färgkopia av kredit-/betalkortet **14 // **62 // **72 som du har använt för att ladda ditt konto (fram- och baksida). Av säkerhetsskäl får endast de första 6 och de sista 4 siffrorna på kortet vara synliga. Siffrorna på baksidan och CVV-numret måste också vara täckta.
Så de vill att jag ska skicka alla kort jag har använt som insättningsmetoder – okej. Jag går naturligtvis med på det och tycker att detta borde lösa det. Men nej, det fortsätter.
En färgkopia av kredit-/betalkortet **62 som du använde för att ladda ditt konto (baksidan). Av säkerhetsskäl får endast de första 6 och de sista 4 siffrorna på kortet vara synliga. Siffrorna på baksidan och CVV-numret måste också vara täckta.
Observera att kortets utgångsdatum måste vara synligt.
Färgkopia av XX XX:s pass/ID-kort.
Selfies av XX XX med ditt pass/ID-kort framför vår webbplats wintopia.com.
Tydligen räckte inte alla kreditkortskopior – nu var de tvungna att hitta nya skäl för att inte betala ut mina pengar. Så vad gör jag? Jag skickar naturligtvis alla dessa bilder också: pass, ID-kort, selfies och alla tre bankkorten igen. Vad står det då?
Observera att XX XX måste ta en selfie med sitt pass mot bakgrund av vår webbplats. Du kan se exemplet bifogat brevet.
Så nu ber de om ytterligare en uppsättning selfies. Men de gör ett misstag genom att först säga att XX XX ska ta en bild med mitt pass, och sedan skriva att den ska tas med hennes eget pass.
Jag
Det är uppenbart att detta handlar om att försena processen och undvika att betala ut mina pengar.
Jag är EXTREMT besviken, eftersom jag trodde att jag hade hittat en webbplats som hanterade insättningar och uttag smidigt, där jag kunde spela för stora summor. Men tydligen är alla recensioner på Trustpilot och på den här webbplatsen sanna.
Jag kommer förmodligen aldrig att se mina 500 euro igen 🙁
Det som gör detta ännu värre är att jag har satt in totalt runt 2 000–3 000 euro på bara två veckor, och jag spelar oftast för stora summor.
Jag har helt okej med KYC – det är ett viktigt verktyg som måste användas. Jag hade dock redan slutfört KYC när jag blev medlem, och baserat på den verifieringen var det helt okej för casinot att acceptera ett stort antal insättningar.
När det var dags att göra ett uttag började problemen plötsligt. Och för varje enskild åtgärd och dokument jag skickar in (när de väl ser att jag faktiskt har tillgång till allt de ber om) kommer de tillbaka med nya krav, vart och ett mer ovanligt än det förra.
Att bli ombedd att ta bilder på mig själv medan jag håller dokument framför en datorskärm och visar deras webbplats är helt enkelt absurt.
Hello, I saw in the past that the casino needed players to take such pictures due to their joint accounts.
To be honest, it is quite common under such circumstances; most globally licensed casinos require this eventually.
On the other hand, I'd say the whole organization wasn't well prepared and pretty much sounds like improvisation of a sort.
I admire your and your partner's patience in this. I totally do!
Sometimes a brief verification call would be much easier for both sides.
Can you guys ask management whats with their cashout restrictions?
It seems like a casino made for very small low betters.
Max cashout $750 a day and $1500 a week?
I deposit $200 and win $1000 or something..it takes like a week to be paid and im not going to redeposit while I have a withdraw.
Super annoying and its across their 3 casino. Allspins, flappy and wintopia.
Hello, is it possible that this is one of those operators who changed the limits recently? I'm asking because the last information we received indicated the following:
Withdrawal limits:
per month €10,000
per week €5,000
per day €2,000
(Dated on October 2025)
Could perhaps also some sort of VIP level get involved? I saw a few similar scenarios lately; all is possible, I reckon.
What did you find out, please?
Oh, if only casinos would take the time to provide proper explanations. I'd like to ask you a favor; could you please share any non-automated responses you receive from the casino? It would be fantastic to have something specific visible. I could also forward that to my colleagues.
I can keep speculating, but facts remain facts. And as a casino customer, you should be informed as to why this is happening.
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