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7 months ago
deus

Rootz Rebrands to Wildz Group, Targets Growth https://share.google/F8hI92zAAqQx0XoTW


Will this have any impact on those who have sued Rootz Limited?

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Baker3xx
7 months ago
deus

Are whdg bankrupt?

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fros7byte
7 months ago
deus

I don't know for sure.

The website is no longer available. It's impossible to reach anyone. The phone number also appears to be out of service. Emails are not being answered.

It's all very strange.

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7 months ago
deus

I also won a case against Rootz Ltd. at the Regional Court, but the appeal to the Higher Regional Court was suspended pending a decision by the European Court of Justice.


Rootz Ltd. has previously been considered reliable regarding payments following legally binding judgments.


Is only the name changing, or is there more to it?

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7 months ago
deus

I don't quite understand the report, hence the question.

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7 months ago
deus
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7 months ago
deus

Has anyone already asked a lawyer if there are any other ways to enforce their judgment? Things are looking increasingly hopeless in Malta, and it seems like the providers are using this time to hide the money, so no matter what you do, you're always one step behind. Even court rulings are useless now because they won't pay anyway.

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7 months ago
deus

Things are looking better at the moment; there's actually some progress and a bit of hope is emerging!

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Stefan123450
7 months ago
deus

Well, according to various reports, even with the major providers it's not certain whether there will be enough money to enforce the debt.

That makes sense, given the corrupt practices behind it, as seen in the casinopapers leak. They're simply buying time, and then when the time comes, they'll transfer money beforehand, and nothing will be there. At least that's how it looks with some major providers right now. They seem to be deliberately preparing for this. Interwett** supposedly always compared offers, and when I read the report today, I could already guess which path they'll take now… probably Mr Green. It's sad that despite holding a title across the entire EU, you can't get anything until some random person makes a decision, and even then, they're one step ahead again because you then have to sue the other group company… that can take years each time.

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7 months ago
deus

The ECJ's decision regarding case C-440/23 is expected in the first quarter of 2026. While there are conflicting reports, I am quite optimistic that the decision will be reached in early 2026. The suspended proceedings will then resume. If the ruling is in favor of the player and the appeal to the Higher Regional Court is rejected, only Bill 55 will remain as an obstacle. I hope that online casinos with a German license will settle the claim.

There's nothing new from the EU Commission; things have become quite quiet, haven't they?

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Baker3xx
7 months ago
deus

https://www.krone.at/3949553

Here is the report from Tipico directly from Malta, or rather, explained again by their lawyer, and what they are doing is actually a scandal.

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voizua92
7 months ago
deus

I see it exactly the same way…

The money is long gone.

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justus99
7 months ago
deus
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justus99
7 months ago
deus

Yeah, so far I don't think it even officially exists in the accounts. They're all so corrupt. No matter what they decide, not everyone will ever get their money, you have to be honest about that. And by now I'm furious about the lawyers' business models. They always say everything's so easy, and they assume settlements are very, very likely, and blah blah, and then it's all bullshit. I can only speak for myself, but I have two casinos and haven't seen a penny from either of them, haha.

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voizua92
7 months ago
deus

A general comparison will be made, you'll see…

Let's take Advofin as an example... let's say MrGelb gives them 1 million, and they can then divide it proportionally; that's how it will work.

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justus99
7 months ago
deus

And the OCs will say there's nothing more available, and the PFs will accept it because they want/need money…

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7 months ago
deus

I'll just be glad when this whole thing finally comes to an end. Now it has to continue in court, and then we'll see what the future holds and which providers are willing to pay after the ECJ ruling, and which aren't. In my case, I hope that Rootz Limited simply pays the sum so I can finally put this behind me and turn my back on online casinos for good.

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justus99
7 months ago
deus

Yes, but if you're already pursuing legal action and enforcing a judgment, you don't have to accept that lousy settlement. I wrote to them directly that if I were to accept anything, it would only be the entire amount including interest. I would never accept the remainder due to the long waiting time, and they can't just accept it without your consent.

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justus99
7 months ago
deus

Well, those who got their money earlier will still receive it, and the others won't because there isn't any left... that's how it'll be anyway, since some of it is deposited in Malta. At least in the model cases, the money is secured according to the report.

But there will be new lawsuits until this goes through, and then the judgment will be ignored anyway. I can't imagine any money will come through if even the enforcement proceedings don't go through despite the title.

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7 months ago
deus

It's sad enough that apparently every country in the EU can do whatever it wants. That's a disgrace. Look how long Bill 55 has been in place. Without all the lawsuits and pressure, nothing would have happened. And even now, after three years, nothing has changed. So far, this tactic is working perfectly for online casinos.

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