Execution Pokerstars. Apparently, payment is not voluntary (page 139)

I thought the same thing, and suddenly bringing up sales at low prices as if that were the only option is outrageous. It brings to mind the previous videos from the same law firm advising against such sales because ultimately everyone will get their money once the ECJ (Dr. Karim Weber emphasizes in the video that he knows how the ECJ will decide... according to his statements) makes its ruling... so it's all very strange and by now quite unprofessional. How desperate can you be? Are they all just relying on voluntary payment now?!

The lawyers cannot simply reach a settlement without your consent.

Hello, you're absolutely right – the problem is, I've been trying to reach the lawyer by phone for about six weeks now and only get dismissive replies by email... "We've always done it this way, we know what we're doing... it can't be any different for you because we'll always do it this way"... but the ONLY thing I want to know is what happens next – even from the litigation funder... the person in charge keeps denying their availability. And the answers are simply appalling. I really have to get a lawyer through my legal insurance to inform me about the current status – is this normal? All they care about is not earning a single cent less if I reach a settlement – ​​they couldn't care less about the person.

So there will never be an end in sight.....

Yes, you're right, and I advise you to get a lawyer. What's been done to us is truly outrageous. The new video on YouTube alone is an absolute disgrace, in my opinion.

Like you said, it's about every cent they can earn. And in 2030, we'll all be "forced" to accept 55% as a comparison because gambling taxes in Austria are 45%, and the poor casinos will have to pay that back or they won't get a license in Austria. It's all a farce. I actually regret suing my few nets because it's always in the back of my mind. I recently advised an acquaintance against suing; no one will get any interest anyway (I think that's also mentioned in the video, if I remember correctly), and I said to my acquaintance, "Don't get me wrong, but who cares if you have €5,000 more in 4-6 years?"

Go to another lawyer and explain your problem. I'm currently looking into whether to reimburse the litigation funder for their costs and continue the case on my own, because there are ways to get the money, but I don't think they'll undertake individual tasks for amounts under €100,000.

If you actively give your lawyer an instruction, they must follow it. Clients have the right to give instructions, and they can't simply circumvent that. The law firm confirmed to me that they wouldn't reach a settlement without my consent anyway; they would always consult with me first and keep me informed.

What good is consultation if the project manager says we should be glad we're getting this amount and should accept it…

I'm aware that even the PF can't force me... but what will happen if I refuse even though the PF approves? They'll just demand my money later in Malta...

You have a verdict, and if they say something like that, it's primarily in their own interest.

Which PKF told you such nonsense??? They're the ones who want to make the highest profit.

If you reject them and hopefully dismiss all those who have been waiting for years or are executing in Malta, that is a clear sign that they should enforce what is stated in the judgment and nothing else.

Whether you wait any longer is irrelevant anyway, but I wouldn't let myself be pressured by a cheap comparison offer and don't believe everything the insurance company or the lawyers tell you, because they're only interested in making money…

Furthermore, what do you intend to do with a 50% settlement minus a 35% commission and possibly unbilled enforcement costs?! What's supposed to be left for you then, haha? Are you also waiving the interest? Then every private health insurance company would be operating at a loss, and that's not the business model they're aiming for...

It depends on the provider; sometimes you have no choice but to compromise. If something like this were to happen in Germany, you certainly wouldn't make a deal with, for example, Tipico.

Let's wait and see, I'm still waiting for a six-figure sum even after three lawsuits.

If enforcement proceedings have been underway in Malta for several years and the money has already been deposited there by the providers, according to the lawyers, then I see no reason for a settlement.

However, this affects very few people because these are only model lawsuits/model executions.

I would never make a comparison; my PF sees things differently 😅

I think it more likely concerns those who haven't yet received a verdict, or those who have received one but haven't yet had execution proceedings initiated.

This whole thing is really tedious, it's annoying.

That's true, of course you can't make a comparison anymore, although a few more interest payments should probably be added.

I just read online that evoke groupe (Mrgreen 888 Holding) is interested in a license; I'm curious to see what will happen next.

Can you share the link?

https://www.parlament.gv.at/gegenstand/XXVIII/SNME/5194

Below under Documents you will find the statement as a PDF.

Interesting 🤨

They are also demanding the cancellation of payments for outstanding judgments and a cooling-off period, so we'll see if they will actually pay judgments if they're already writing like this.

Each casino has different requirements; ultimately, the decision rests with the government.

I have read the entire statement and found that they would pay the judgments, but they want to go through every instance up to the European Court of Justice.

They claim that this should be left to the courts and that they should be given the opportunity to exhaust all legal avenues.

The gambling reform is linked to "player protection," so the government will not abolish it; perhaps it will only offer some concessions, such as no new rulings for casinos seeking licenses, no interest payments, and perhaps even a tax cut for past periods.

I think Mrgreen definitely wants a license and to establish a strong presence in Austria.

The cooling-off phase will almost certainly be abolished or reduced to 3 months.

Conclusion:

Mrgreen will certainly be accommodating, but he will definitely not refuse to pay judgments; that would make no sense. License system for "player protection".

Mrgreen knows perfectly well they will have to pay, so they will apply for a license.

The statement also emphasizes that they want security for the future and say that if they pay everything, no further judgments will be issued against them in the future thanks to PF.

Well, we'll see, I'm rather skeptical, otherwise my enforcement proceedings would have been over long ago and not on the 26th hearing 😂

Interestingly, the report explicitly mentions the provisions for the legal disputes in Austria : https://www.evokeplc.com/investors/results-reports-and-presentations/