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1Bet Casino - general discussion

1 year ago by HelmeHU
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1 year ago

At the moment, a fairly large lawsuit is starting to unfold against 1bet Casino, however, in order to start the lawsuit, it would be essential for the casino to send me a copy of our chat conversations. In the last three weeks, I have requested copies of messages more than 10 times in total. They would be required by law to release copies of the messages. The chat says that the relevant department is working on it, but this is clearly a lie. By e-mail, the support does not respond to a single letter in the meantime.


In addition, I would have the right to know what happens to the amount on the account and what the payment method is if I want to cancel my account. I haven't heard back in three weeks. There is nothing about it in the terms of the contract. If I cancel my account, then according to the GDPR they should also delete my data, I would no longer be able to manage it, so the account will be closed and I will not be able to pay out the amount every week.


I would like to finally receive a copy of the messages and get an answer to a question not detailed in the terms of the contract


Does anyone know which authority to turn to in this regard?

HelmeHU
1 year ago

Hello,

I tried to access the site to find out where it is licensed but was not successful.

To be honest, this casino currently has a reputation 0,0 out of 10, check it here, and has solved only 1 complaint in total.

Well, it actually does not seem pretty good. Feel free to submit the complaint here.

Radka
1 year ago

I filed a complaint, but unfortunately Petronella was scammed by the casino. The casino copied a correspondence that is one day earlier than the relevant one. Nevertheless, the case was closed and not reopened. And when I want to submit a new case that 1bet has not issued the correspondence for almost a month, my complaint is deleted from the Casino Guru page.



HelmeHU
1 year ago

Hello there,

your complaint is visible, you can find it here.

Do you have the relevant correspondence, please? If so, I guess that this is a good reason for the reopening.

Radka
1 year ago

Hello Radka,


I submitted two more cases regarding the 1bet casino, but both were deleted without any meaningful information.


Another case:

Petronella closed the case because the 1bet.com casino copied a message from the VIP account manager. However, the message is a day earlier than when I requested to close the account. In accordance with the terms of the contract, I requested the account to be closed on 1bet chat. That didn't happen. The casino abused my gambling addiction. I have requested copies of the messages on several occasions. So far, the casino refused to give a copy of the chat correspondence. They don't answer and have been banned in the meantime.

1 year ago

Hello Radka,


I submitted two more cases regarding the 1bet casino, but both were deleted without any meaningful information.


Another case:

Petronella closed the case because the 1bet.com casino copied a message from the VIP account manager. However, the message is a day earlier than when I requested to close the account. In accordance with the terms of the contract, I requested the account to be closed on 1bet chat. That didn't happen. The casino abused my gambling addiction. I have requested copies of the messages on several occasions. So far, the casino refused to give a copy of the chat correspondence. They don't answer and have been banned in the meantime.

1 year ago

Hello,

I find it hard to believe. We usually do not delete complaints unless the player behaves inappropriately or the case is identical to those previously submitted.

Allow me to ask you again: Do you have the relevant correspondence, please? The first one you have mentioned several times now?

If so, I guess that this is a good reason for the reopening.


1 year ago

My lawyer wrote the following letter, to which, of course, no reply was received. We would be especially happy if the case were reopened, as 1bet seems to only respond to CasinoGuru.

Bellona NV

Attn: Management

Heelsumstraat 51 E-Commerce Park

Curaçao

     

September 28, 2022

Helmeczi / Bellona NV

L.s.,


On behalf of client Krisztián Helmeczi I request your attention for the following.


Client had an account at the online casino 1bet.com. This site is operated by your company and acts under the license of Antillephone NV. 


The casino made misuse of the gambling addiction of client which make him lose over HUF 100 million. 


On numerous occasions client asked copy of the chat correspondence between the casino and him. (Annex)


So far, the casino refused the give copy of the chat correspondence.


On behalf of client I hereby demand copy of the chat correspondence between the casino and client as from August 26, 2022 and today. 


We expect copy of the correspondence not later than 5 days from now.


Awaiting your reply.


Sincerely yours,


R. Bijkerk

HelmeHU
1 year ago

I still think that you should focus on providing the missing conversation.

I'm sorry, but I'd say this is a very important piece that is still missing.

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Radka
1 year ago

file


After a long time, we received a copy of the correspondence. The only problem is that the mail was forged. :)

Who would have thought...

Of course, we filed a police report.

1bet.com also cheats its own lawyers.


I am attaching an excerpt from the letter sent by my lawyer.


There are many cases against them, they have damaged customers with millions of dollars. In addition, it turned out that in several cases the amount paid did not arrive directly to them, but to Chinese webshops (we have proof of it), which is a classic example of money laundering.

HelmeHU
1 year ago

Sadly,

I can hardly comment on this. Trying to make a forgery is stupid and dishonest, still, it's not up to us to get involved at this level. Furthermore, nobody should play in a "casino" with a reputation of 0.

Let your cause be successful.

Edited by author 1 year ago
1 year ago

Update:


We filed a complaint against Bellona NV. I have a very good lawyer who specializes specifically in Curacao casino scams.


There are a lot of complaints against Bellona NV, it's a wonder that sites like CasinoGuru and Askgamblers don't have all their casinos banned.

HelmeHU
1 year ago

Hello,

we can't ban any casino, because we are not an official authority, you see?

Instead, we chose to provide honest reviews, so players like you can avoid dangerous online casinos.

May I know whether you had checked the casino review, complaints, or user reviews anywhere on the net before you decided to play on such a site? 🤔

I see this precaution as more effective than suing such companies afterward. Just my point of view 🙂


Radka
1 year ago

Hello,

I was thinking of this page:

https://casino.guru/blacklist

Other Bellona NV casinos are listed on it, but 1bet.com is not.


Yes, I checked the casino before. Unfortunately, I only heard about Casino Guru after reading about the complaint handling.

The Hungarian-language pages were praised, but it turned out that most of them were paid PR articles. Also, I checked on Trustpilot, but in the meantime it also turned out that they pay 5 euros for positive reviews.


Before, I only played on big sites, I didn't know that there are medium-sized casinos that don't respect their own terms and conditions and even commit forgery.

HelmeHU
1 year ago

Hi!

you can try this contact.I previously reported the HOT.BET (Bellona NV) casino here.


Director Legal and iGaming Compliance.

 

cindy.drommond@the-emgroup.com

Name:Cindy Drommond


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noni0706
1 year ago

Hi!


I see you are also Hungarian. I read your complaint. We found a lawyer in Curacao, he is currently handling our case, there is also another Hungarian who also has the same problem as you. There are currently 5 cases against Bellona with this lawyer alone. I have already filed a complaint with EM group, since then Bellona's lawyer has come.

I am already at the stage where we filed a police report in Curacao for forgery, because although I received a copy of the correspondence, it was forged in the last dirty way. We are now trying to get Zendesk (the operator of the chat platform) to say that this is not an authentic copy.

Currently, neither VANEPS (Bellona's law firm), Antillephone (they are the master license holder), nor the Curacao authorities are responding, so I reported them to the Hungarian and Maltese data protection authorities 1 week ago.

The next round is to file a report for money laundering, because in several cases the amount did not arrive at Bellona NV, but instead landed at Chinese webshops, and the amount was not deducted in euros or dollars, but in Chinese yuan.

If you think you can join us, the lawyer works for a success fee.

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HelmeHU
1 year ago

Hi.

I understand your situation. thanks for trying to help. however, I also gave my case to the client, and the Director of EM GRUP is also investigating the case. I think I will wait for the results of the exams,

it is obvious that Bellona Nv. a fraud and disrespectful ceg. because psychology is used by the game players. if you win fairly. will do anything to avoid payment.

as for Penz Mosast, I know everything about this company. I will send you the link for this. which may also be of interest to you,

https://casino.guru/hot-bet-casino-the-player-s-requesting-a-refund

I hope you can solve your case. I Wish You Rich Fingers of Success


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noni0706
1 year ago

Hi!


Happy new year full of success to you too!

Isn't Roelof Bijkerk your lawyer by any chance?

How long has Em Group been investigating your case?



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1 year ago

Hi!

Thank you very much!

Roelof Bijkerk is not my attorney.

On October 3, I gave my case directly to the EM Grup Director.

I am confident that I will be able to get my winnings back, since the casino announced several months ago that I received my paid money back. but he never returned the money I paid. and took my prize too, file here the casino stated that it returned my deposit. it's been more than 2 months. but unfortunately the casino cheated me here too. and he lied. BELLONA NV. He never returned the money he paid. it is clear that Bellona NV Penzmosók are Fraudsters and Robbers.

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HelmeHU
1 year ago

Hello, as I am reading your conversations here, I have nothing left but to wish you much success in solving your disputes. We would definitely appreciate if you could document on the forum how your cases are progressing and what it entails. You can easily start a new thread here on the forum regarding this topic to make everything clearer. I can then your current posts there later . Good luck and keep us informed please✨

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