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Question about Gambling websites with Curaçao license using incorrect Merchant Category code (page 364)

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Jwright1998
11 months ago

Hi everyone long term follower i dont comment as much but read every message still.Hope everyone is doing well. I have ways to trigger a chargeback investiagtion it is unethical, very very time cosuming but should work depending on card brand rules i have put hours into coming up with this resolution. I havent gone into too much detail really dont think this is a safe space at all to be sharing details and is why i have refrained from commenting such processes.

Elijahanth
11 months ago

does unethical actually mean illegal

11 months ago

Im backing out for a bit myself will continue to read and try and help if I can my chargebacks only have a few weeks to go and im getting involved in a lot of other peoples stuff im not wanting to jeopardise my refunds in any way it might rile the banks if they know im doing this or anyone refers to me

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Dustyd
11 months ago

I prefer the term unethical lol.These casinos believe they are doing nothing illegal just doing unethical practices in there eyes,im just playing there game. It really was the only way the amount of research i put in was the only way i saw fit im honest unless your bank process on technicalties which is 0.01 % chance. The casinos r just pr***s they wont refund and most of the merchants are involved

xbigguyxxx
11 months ago

What ive done mate. Just waiting on responses to fos complaint and final disputes. I have been completely done with these casinos just transactions from early last year now with fos.

Elijahanth
11 months ago

I like being in here helping etc but I need to protect my own interests bud so same here will step back a bit

xbigguyxxx
11 months ago

Hi All, just thought I'd share an update. I mentioned in my last post that I was rejected by the bank and accused of Fraudulent activity for chargebacks using code 4840. I think there might have been a change in the MCC codes as I'm in the process of now escalating my issue to a complaint with the bank and im doing some thorough research of my own to ensure I have my ducks in a row. I thought I'd share this link which gives a description of tbe charge code we are all talking about which differs from the one I used in my original claim which I picked up from the template someone else added to this feed a while back.

The code I'm going to ref is 4849 - see below link. I'm on a mission now, ive had enough. So many of us have been scammed and exploited by these cowboys and its not fair. We're all on gamstop for a reason because we have problems and their rigged games and lack of payouts and transparency has sent me on a witch hunt to take this lot down.


Hope this helps you all. Will keep positing my progress.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/midmetrics.com/blog/reason-code-4849-exploring-mastercards-questionable-merchant-audit-program%3fhs_amp=true

Dingdong5
11 months ago

Hi mate, so did the bank say you was being fraudulent or did the merchant?

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11 months ago
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11 months ago

It's not available in UK so best keep away

Anonymized839
11 months ago

Looks a scam site big time one of many similar ones

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11 months ago

Does anyone know if it’s true gambling transactions via bank transfer/Open Banking cannot be blocked like gambling card transactions as that is what various banks have told me seemingly to absolve themselves of any duty of care? I feel very silly now having made the vast majority of deposits via the SEPA transfer mechanism (although my bank still would not uphold my chargeback requests for card transactions to these dodgy Curacao sites a while back anyway). Thanks in advance anyone who can clarify.

Dustyd
11 months ago

The bank!

11 months ago

for casinos owned by Famagousta BV, has anyone successfully got a refund? Did anyone contact B90 holdings group? Thanks

Dingdong5
11 months ago

Which bank told you that? They are out of their mind?

Martin61
11 months ago

Nat**** - I'm in tbe process of raising a full complaint today to counteract all of this. If anything just given me more grounds now and a stronger counter argument against their duty of care to recognise my activity history previously. Have u raised a complaint with the bank?

11 months ago

Barclays is the best, they sorted me out, once all this crap is done i m closing my other accounts. Hsbc is useless. Doesent want to put it through as incorrect mcc, only as goods not received and they require "order confirmation ". Can t raise with natwest, tesco, m and s or lloyds due to being over 4 months so i contacted the merchants.

11 months ago

Openbanking / Transfer


No chargeback possible, only released voluntarily by the receiving bank. Every bank charges a fee for a chargeback, usually €10-15.00 per transaction

It is also a good thing that a recall is only possible to a limited extent or not at all, otherwise digital payment transactions would be characterized by abuse. I buy a cell phone for 500.00 euros, pay for it and simply cancel the payment... That would be too good to be true.


The fact is, you were not cheated or exploited. You made the payments voluntarily and received something in return. If you had won, you would have paid out.


Processing payments using a false code is not a crime, it is more of a grey area, there is no paragraph that prohibits it. If there was a ban, the courts would take action against it. You are free to take legal action to obtain an initial judgment.

Some providers are already on an internal bank blacklist and payments are blocked by the bank.

The code 7995 is blocked by most banks, or you can set up the gambling block yourself. Recoding the payments is intended to bypass the block. The banking systems themselves assume that everything is OK.

You can't punish the bank for something it doesn't know about. The responsibility lies with you, not the bank. You are an adult, no one needs to hold you by the hand like a little child.

FOS:

The ombudsman does not make a legal assessment, he is not a lawyer, he decides based on facts. The fact is: the bank has executed your submitted payment order, everything else is a civil law dispute.


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benwallace209
11 months ago

I've just had a reply from vipzino saying they are refunding 330 deposits!!! Let's see what happens but this is a shock. I've emailed all the casinos and they have all just thrown their t&c at me but this one has said yes and is processing refunds

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