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Question about Gambling websites with Curaçao license using incorrect Merchant Category code (page 157)

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Wicked243
1 year ago

I done a chargeback with my bank for Loopet and they declined every one they actually sent over evidence of my gambling account which I found strange as they were a third party merchant, so the casino defiantly have a close relationship with them

xxkjxx
1 year ago

I need to do chargebacks with my bank as well. I think the key is to know what to say and I am interested if anyone can help me.

Wicked243
1 year ago

Can you please help me. I need to dispute or make chargebacks with my bank and don’t know exactly what to say. Fraud? Never received goods? Or admit to fraud casino practices.

xxkjxx
1 year ago

They fisted you really hard 😉

It is usually standard that some casinos are also the owners of the payment services through subsidiary companies 😉

Anonymized668
1 year ago

Me, but through chargeback with the bank they sent the funds back

BettyBetty
1 year ago

Hi, is it possible please if you could reach out to me at my email [email protected]

I have been meaning to try and chargeback a couple of casinos going back to May of this year where I stupidly and illogicaly deposited a vast amount of my money only to then find out a large majority of these online casinos are criminals pretty much

Also I'm from Australia so it's another kick in the teeth for me as these casinos are banned from operating or accepting players from Australia.

My issue is that I have absolutely zero idea how to approach the dialogue with my bank, am comfortable running the risk of not being truthful Also to my bank as I feel if I say 'online gambling' my chargeback chances wouldn't progress at all.

What do I say to my bank as the transactions I'd like to try and recover money from are not few here and there, they roughly add up to about 40-50 transactions with a majority of the transaction payment provider being some bullshit dodgy place in Nigeria.

Please could you offer advice as I have already left it very late and am approaching the max limit allowed to do a charge back. Thank u.

xxkjxx
1 year ago

Did they argue the dispute?


Also what is enygma sas meant to be as a product?

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Anonymized668
1 year ago

I’m not sure I just opened a chargeback with my bank I said they closed my account and took my funds and they accepted the chargeback and I got the funds back a few weeks later. It was for just under £60 although

1 year ago

Just pulled this directly from Visa's T&Cs. Chargebacks can be made via "Condition 12.7: Invalid Data"


We need to make sure we tell banks this. Be open and honest, they can tell we authorised the transaction via our IP addresses. However, we didn't authorise under these incorrect MCC codes.


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1 year ago

this is great information. Does this apply to visa debit bank cards as well?

1 year ago

Did any of your successful chargebacks go go against grotobooks, helpersm, or Destream?

1 year ago

Hey bud how ya going?

Mate, this may seen outta the ordinary with me contacting you to ask some questions moreso advice on how to navigate the chargeback process with australian banks (anz)


Straight out mate I blew so much of my bloody hard earned coin, can't bring myself to add it up it's fucking massive as I had left over money from sale of a property and May-Jun I can't believe what transpired....loss after loss deposit after deposit. Stupidity at it's best and self guilt whilst carrying this shame is a ugly feeling sometimes it makes me feel crook in my guts.


I got no idea how to approach the bank and hit em up for chargebacks, couldn't care less if there's more of a chance of chargeback being successful if you don't tell the truth etc...I just need to know what to say ain't worried about so called friendly fraud bullshit because 3 casinos I've gambled on for years are listed on acma website banned in Oz and ARE NOT meant to accept any player from Oz also.

As luck would have it with a big slap in the face I realized these casinos are all bogus frauds after I lost massive this past June by reading forums.

What do I say to the bank?

When there's laterally sometimes 15 consecutive deposits to a vendor that appears on my bank statement as 'something something Nigeria'.

I've only one chance at this and I've held off due to not knowing what or how to issue a chargeback.

My email is [email protected] could you please email me mate, yeah your from Australia likewise hence why I'm reaching out to ya.

Ta

Dt100
1 year ago

You can also ask the bank to provide you with an official proof of receival from the postal company. Once the bank gets this and share it you can file for fraud against the merchant and get your money back immediately.



Unfortunately, some merchants are aware of this chargeback scheme and try to fight it to avoid getting shut down by MasterCard/Visa.

Youssf
1 year ago

How would you go about that? When you do a chargeback it's basically an online form there's no communication or nothing.


Problem is aswell alot of these websites are digital service, no postal required

Dt100
1 year ago

The bank is required to serve your interests meaning that they should do all they can with the 'facts' given for a positive outcome for the consumer. If the merchant shows evidence that would close the case the bank should share this with the consumer so you can either fight this or not.

rkykxjsckv
1 year ago

I decided to go down the route of scam, highlighting the facts: MCC fraud, transaction laundering and money laundering for their illegal offshore operations. I've deposited and cannot withdraw my funds.


Then let the bank make their decision, state you did make the transaction but they've scammed you.


If you claim you didn't make the transaction, they'll simply look at IP address and reject straight away.

rkykxjsckv
1 year ago

That screenshot does actually relate to debit and credit cards I believe.


Couldn't find the equivalent for Mastercard but I'd assume they have the same terms somewhere.

1 year ago

Does anyone know the address of niko tpf concord market so I can request a deposit refund?

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makelios6
1 year ago

Ive got nikotpf web active lim, theres a few nikotpf variants which make me think its an illegal organisation

Wicked243
1 year ago

This is the route i've gone down, it's a scam, they've escalated it so i assume it's being looked into properly.

1 year ago

What does the bank want to investigate?

In my opinion, the bank's options are very limited. They probably don't see anything more than the card details, the reason for the purchase and the recipient. Investigations can be initiated based on the recipient, but that's all. If the recipient of the payment keeps changing their name, little should be known. Perhaps a comparison with local laws, but that's it.

In the end, the chargeback is still uncertain. If the retailer gets creative himself 😉


The more chargebacks the banks carry out, the more the merchants become the target of Mastercard / VISA, and at some point they will be excluded completely.



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1 year ago

Can anyone help me with these payments?


Cerano

Arteluna

Bullet Skins

Alphastrike

Headshots BYT

Dragons BYT

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