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Snowyhill84
1 month ago
deus

That was deliberate and therefore fraud. You knew exactly what you were doing. The bank can't see into the future and know that the transactions they're supposed to process have the wrong MCC for you, but you knew it. Therefore, I hope you don't get a single cent back.


You're old enough, so don't blame the bank for your mistake. You authorized the payment, and the bank processed it. You got what you wanted!



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Dan4789
1 month ago

250+ transactions made to random overseas merchants should have been flagged by the bank. In the UK, the banks have a duty of care as do our licensed casinos.

Yep I'm an adult. An adult with a gambling addiction who picked this particular bank as they have a strict gambling block. I am responsible for depositing but unfortunately for an addiction once it takes hold its not as easy as saying right I'll stop playing. I'm glad you dont understand that as its an awful place to be.

No idea why you count this as fraud as I told them exactly what I'd done. Didn't raise any chargebacks so you're talking nonsense.

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1 month ago
deus

Your use of the term "relapse" completely undermines your argument. A relapse isn't a technical glitch on the bank's part, but a conscious decision against your own intentions. Someone who actively clicks "Confirm" 250 times (!) in their app isn't acting helplessly, but with full intent.

But since you're so insistent on the bank's duty of care, I have a very simple question for you – and that's exactly the question the ombudsman will ask you:

If you specifically chose this bank because it 'strictly blocks' gambling: Why didn't you contact the bank immediately after your very first successful deposit to point out the loophole in the system?

If you didn't report it, you didn't want any protection at all. You wanted to exploit the loophole in System 249 more times. That's called 'bad faith'.

If you claim you couldn't report it because you were 'trapped', then you are admitting that you consciously recognized the transactions as gambling – while the bank only saw a fake code (MCC).

So you were fully aware of the situation; the bank was blinded by the casino's fraud. You didn't use the system as a shield, but as a scapegoat in case you lost.

To be clear: You actively confirmed a contract 250 times and used a service. Now that the money's gone, the bank should foot the bill. Save yourself the postage for the ombudsman. Anyone who identifies a security vulnerability and relentlessly exploits it for €15,000 has forfeited any right to 'due diligence'. You got what you ordered. Take responsibility for it.

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Snowyhill84
1 month ago
nlus

He's trying to get under your skin, ignore him.

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1 month ago

Do I have to contact the merchants directly if chargeback and refund are rejected

Sabine1984
1 month ago
deus

I'm not provoking anyone, I'm speaking the truth.


If she pressed "confirm" 250 times, she could have become suspicious after the 10th or 20th time that a gambling ban might not be in effect... She merrily continued, milking the "grey loophole".

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Dan4789
1 month ago

No that is what you call: gambling addiction.

Sabine1984
1 month ago
deus

No, that's called shirking responsibility. If you call it gambling addiction, you're admitting you were aware of your problem. An addiction is an illness, but it's not a license to break contracts and then make the bank pay for it.

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1 month ago
deus

I'm not provoking anyone, I'm speaking the truth.


If she pressed "confirm" 250 times, she could have become suspicious after the 10th or 20th time that a gambling ban might not be in effect... She merrily continued, milking the "grey loophole".

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1 month ago

Bore off satan

Snowyhill84
1 month ago

I’ve complained to my MBNA credit card, essentially I’ve got a 15k limit, I’ve complained to them 12 month ago saying I was struggling with an addition, they did nothing!!


it happened again so I’ve asked them to consider their actions as a responsible lender.


I complained to Virgin Money, they chargedback £7k for me, gave me £500 compensation and closed my account to prevent any further harm. they quoted all the responsible lender stuff at me, including the FCA VULNERABLE CUSTOMER GUIDANCE.


I’ve gone back to MBNA and explained that they knew I was an addict, have had previous issues and they continue to allow these dodgy transactions in their thousands!


I’ve not gone down the chargeback route or anything, just said they’ve allowed excessive transactions to be processed from someone who is a known gambling addict. The ombudsman is reviewing so I think they have to do something

Dan4789
1 month ago

You are a Turd Mate


This probably only applies to credit cards and not debit. But have a look at the below

FCA guidance on vulnerable customers (FG21/1) requires firms to recognise gambling‑related harm as a clear vulnerability, meaning they must proactively identify indicators such as escalating gambling spend, reliance on credit, financial instability, or impaired decision‑making, and then understand how these factors affect the customer’s resilience and risk of harm. Firms are expected to ensure staff are trained to spot and respond to gambling‑linked vulnerability, adapt communications to be clear and non‑exploitative, and take practical, tailored actions such as restricting credit, offering forbearance, or signposting support. They must also monitor outcomes and review whether their interventions are effective, with research such as the Bristol/GambleAware work reinforcing the need for product design and account monitoring that actively reduces gambling‑related harm.

Elena1233
1 month ago
deus

Call me Satan, but 250 clicks don't lie. Someone who milks a loophole for €15,000 isn't a victim, they're a regular customer. Do you also call the ombudsman Satan if he tells you the exact same thing in the end? Good luck with the mediator.

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Dan4789
1 month ago

Which casino do you work for? Prick

Aellis
1 month ago
deus

It's cute that logic sounds like casino advertising to you. You don't need an employer in the industry to understand that 250 manual confirmations are pure malice. Your resorting to insults only demonstrates that your sense of reality is as depleted as the author's bank balance.

Keep dreaming about your guidelines while the real world decides based on real signatures and approvals. Anyone who milks a system loophole for €15,000 and then portrays themselves as a victim has simply forfeited any right to sympathy. Anyone who can't spell "personal responsibility" clearly mistakes common sense for paid advertising.


Wishing you continued success in your fairytale world.

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Dan4789
1 month ago

You’re lecturing about "personal responsibility" like it’s some profound insight, yet you conveniently ignore the one detail that blows your whole argument apart: no legitimate system on earth requires 250 manual confirmations unless it’s deliberately engineered to squeeze every last drop out of someone who’s already compromised. That isn’t discipline, that isn’t policy, and it sure as hell isn’t ethics — it’s exploitation dressed up as procedure.


And the irony of you preaching about "reality" is almost funny. The only fairytale here is the one where a company can green‑light hundreds of approvals, take the money, ignore every red flag, and then suddenly pretend to be the guardian of moral order when the consequences land. That’s not responsibility — that’s cowardice hiding behind paperwork.


So keep waving your buzzwords around like they mean something. The rest of us can see exactly what happened, and no amount of condescension is going to rewrite the facts.

1 month ago

Yeah think I got like £100 compensation from ombudsman after losing thousands. Nothing changed after either still able to lose thousands.


I only got compensation as when I asked the bank for help saying i cant stop gambling, a customer service advisor responded "just stop then".

1 month ago

I got £150 but i class that as siding with the bank there all in on it together its a joke

1 month ago
deus

I'm not provoking anyone, I'm speaking the truth.


If she pressed "confirm" 250 times, she could have become suspicious after the 10th or 20th time that a gambling ban might not be in effect... She merrily continued, milking the "grey loophole".

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1 month ago

Have a day of mate 🥱🥱

Aellis
1 month ago

was the 7k chargeback successful

AZGBG
1 month ago

Yes it was, I was fully honest with Virgin Money, they were really good with the whole thing……the chargebacks were DSOL PAY….

Aellis
1 month ago

So on what basis did they approve the chargebacks?

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