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Games on Demo?

1 year ago by Anonymized417
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1 year ago

I have noticed that the first time you play a game on demo, say 50/100 spins I always seem to win big, especially pragmatic games. After that it turns to the usual lose more than you win. I just play Gate of Olympus 100 .40 won 185 off 50 spins after that 32 and 24. Same thing happened with eye of atum and others big win first time then it dwindles. The reason I do it is because the casino I play offers loads of deposit bonuses and I like to try the game first to see if it pays. I've got 200 x2 free spins on Crystal cavern megaways for a 50 deposit. Same thing happened on there 1st time playing won 260. After that went downhill so I will let you know how I get on tomorrow.

Anonymized417
1 year ago

I remember reading somewhere (I think it was big win board) there are providers that provide fake/manipulated demo modes, whereas you get a insanely high hits, but playing with real money you get the real RTP (you know, the bad one 😂). So pretty much yes, I also believe demo modes are fake, maybe not from all providers, but there are definitely some that provide fake demos

1 year ago

I have noticed that the first time you play a game on demo, say 50/100 spins I always seem to win big, especially pragmatic games. After that it turns to the usual lose more than you win. I just play Gate of Olympus 100 .40 won 185 off 50 spins after that 32 and 24. Same thing happened with eye of atum and others big win first time then it dwindles. The reason I do it is because the casino I play offers loads of deposit bonuses and I like to try the game first to see if it pays. I've got 200 x2 free spins on Crystal cavern megaways for a 50 deposit. Same thing happened on there 1st time playing won 260. After that went downhill so I will let you know how I get on tomorrow.

1 year ago

Hmm quite interesting if you notice it even on demo versions. Is it only on pragmatic games or did you notice it on others ? After such an experience, do you think if you will try it with real money or will it convince you not to play in the casino ? 

Anyway, be sure to let us know how you did and if your observations came true. 🙂

1 year ago

I remember reading somewhere (I think it was big win board) there are providers that provide fake/manipulated demo modes, whereas you get a insanely high hits, but playing with real money you get the real RTP (you know, the bad one 😂). So pretty much yes, I also believe demo modes are fake, maybe not from all providers, but there are definitely some that provide fake demos

1 year ago

Also do you remember which providers you read about that have fake demo mods ? I find it quite an interesting topic. 

Jaro
1 year ago

As I said even on demo the first time you play you win big, after that terrible and I mean terrible and then when you play for real cash just a bad, hardly any scatters free spins pay a pittance. The main culprits are Pragmatic and Play n Go. Hacksaw games to their credit are steady win big lose lose lose, get your money back lose and again win big. I'm never playing a pragmatic slot or play n Go again, unless offered in a No wagering free spins on deposit bonus. If I do I will keep you posted

Jaro
1 year ago

https://www.bigwinboard.com/gameart/ this one, I do remember reading time ago about similar things by Pragmatic's demo modes but couldn't find anything

1 year ago

As I said even on demo the first time you play you win big, after that terrible and I mean terrible and then when you play for real cash just a bad, hardly any scatters free spins pay a pittance. The main culprits are Pragmatic and Play n Go. Hacksaw games to their credit are steady win big lose lose lose, get your money back lose and again win big. I'm never playing a pragmatic slot or play n Go again, unless offered in a No wagering free spins on deposit bonus. If I do I will keep you posted

1 year ago

I can't imagine going to Pragmatic or Play'nGo and saying, "Hey, are your demo modes okay? Because I think those are fake!"

Like, honestly, what would you say players with such conviction should do? I guess the licensing authority does not care much, or am I wrong?

1 year ago

https://www.bigwinboard.com/gameart/ this one, I do remember reading time ago about similar things by Pragmatic's demo modes but couldn't find anything

1 year ago

I have heard about this blacklist, it is worth checking out.

1 year ago

Is the demo mode subject to the same regulations as a real-money slot? Is there any legal oversight for this? It's quite clear to me that, in a demo mode, players should have the opportunity to acquaint themselves with all aspects of the slot game, including its features and bonus games, within a minimum number of spins

1 year ago

I can't provide any proof, but I've had that feeling too, more than once

1 year ago

Is the demo mode subject to the same regulations as a real-money slot? Is there any legal oversight for this? It's quite clear to me that, in a demo mode, players should have the opportunity to acquaint themselves with all aspects of the slot game, including its features and bonus games, within a minimum number of spins

1 year ago

Since I'm not particularly sure about the answer I will add just one more question 😀:

Why are some games available in demo mode when others are not released in demo versions?

Sorry to bring more confusion to this subject, but I felt it was related... 🤷‍♂️

1 year ago

That's a good question. I usually use demo games to familiarize myself with the interface, parameters, and other technical aspects. But I also wonder why some slots do not have a demo mode? In my opinion, maybe it is done more for the sake of excitement, when the player does not know what exactly he will see when he starts playing. On the one hand, it can be an interesting experience, but on the other hand (I think even most of all players) are not very fond of such things when it comes to playing for real money.

Also, as a theory, there may not have been enough time or budget to finalize the demo version🙂

RobertAnderson
1 year ago

I like the fact that you skipped all negative assumptions. That's awesome, and I'd like to say I prefer to stick with your suggestions! Thank you 🙂


What I, on the other hand, find really hard to get is this information:

"The principles of randomness are honoured by every licensed game provider."

What do you make of this? 😀

Radka
1 year ago

Thus, the principles of randomness will be such that most likely there will be some pseudo-random number generator, the seed of which can be compiled from time, information about the client and others, and then its output can be decorated to slightly beautify the data. In my country, the provider must allow customs officials to measure this generator at any time, which is a condition for obtaining a license.


But back to the demo. As far as I know, the demo must always be available with us. If they adjust the chances of winning on it, then that's a nice piggery.



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1 year ago

If I understood the question correctly, it would be great if every casino site published data on the verification somewhere. And that it was regularly updated information. I understand that it takes a lot of resources to check every licensed casino, but it would be the best thing for players. 

RobertAnderson
1 year ago

Hm that would be a nice idea, but I am not sure if it is feasible, since there are casinos that do not have a license, if you mean the license verification data. It would just be a mechanism where not all casinos would have to be honest and it would certainly be important to come up with something where casinos can't get around it. So as an idea it might not be a bad, but I can see it being quite difficult to implement. 🤔

1 year ago

I agree that it is very difficult to realize. But they want players to trust them more, and they have to work on it! This should be in their best interest

RobertAnderson
1 year ago

Yes, casinos should do everything they can to make the player as happy as possible. But as we all know, this is not the case. And that's why a single mechanism would be much harder to set up, because every casino would have to have the same criteria to meet. 

But I see your point and I'm of the same opinion. 🙂

1 year ago

Demo mod is more difficult to play actually. The result will be more harder for pragmatic. For no limit city the demo will be more easy to hit. hacksaw gaming also quite hard to win big in demo. In real casino, I still think pragmatic is much better for. I got huge win in no limit city, roughly 4000x and 3000x win but guess what, I lost all in next few days and even become losing another 3000x ....very bad bonus buy. I think u got the point, once you win hardly to win again. This is proven....

1 year ago

Just to share which game i lose so much,

True Grit redemption losing around 10 bonus buy at random or gamble bonus buy.

RIP tomestone 8 bonus buy losing....these two games ripped all my money....a x1000 bonus buy and get x70....i always remember it. Try to avoid these game.

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