My concern about Pragmatic Play (page 11)

I agree that in the last 5 years the slots we have been playing have changed their behavior, I also agree that from casino to casino I have noticed different behavior in the same slots, what I wrote was agreed by giannis400 and the others here.

I don't take anyone's opinion away, I just sometimes don't understand why someone who has the same view still plays those slots. If you are convinced that they behave differently everywhere and you can't win isn't it best to quit gambling ? Anyone can express their opinion but of course politely and objectively. 🙂

I've been playing PLAYSON's coin strike for a long time, today with 500 spins of 1 euro, I opened the bonus because I had accumulated a lot of coins for those who know, I was rewarded with a bonus of 34 euros LOL, also in the 500 spins, I didn't get into the bonus even once, it always stopped when went to fix the 3rd scatter, I complained to customer service and it threw me the familiar automated message that refers to luck and the control by the competent authorities for fair rng, this game had nothing to do with what I've been playing for years, that's why those who agree on the suspicious behavior of spinning slots from casino to casino. Whenever I have tried to imitate some streamers who change PRAGMATIC PLAY games I have regretted it, I always lose all my money, countless times I have changed 5-6 games losing all the money from the 1st game I played winning, I have never played consecutive games in pragmatic play so I can win. Tip... if you win in a PRAGMATIC play game, don't try to play another one in pragmatic play.

I have a lot to say about pragmatic and the way they do the dirty for the players .. first of all I want to tell you don’t bet with pragmatic you will be skin of your money all day long with only a few chances by day .. this provider is by far the worst I’ve seen in my entire life .. limit scam they are very bad .. I give you some exemple .. we will take candy land bonanza .. when you play this game and they give you a bonus game who worth more than x50 90% of time they take it back in the next 20 spins to be sure you will not go with any nice wins .. I’ve seen multiples issues with them .. these people who host this game release their spins always around the same zone for a lot of spins they are a big part of the Roberry they can do the exact same spins for all the session .. I noticed that sometimes the game is paused for like 2-3 mins and when they do this Little pause the game turn into a very bad game for a long time .. I can guarantee you after playing this for months something is wrong with this game and they probably fix the game manually .. they take you a lot of spins with bad numbers and come back with some very poor bonus game income like x5 x10 x7 but take 30 spins for this .. I barely see some very big wins in the last 6 month playing this game not only that but they also laugh at your face even if they know that everyone is losing money .. they always talk about the energy and being nice in the live chat of the game and I can assure you every single time when people get mad in this live chat the game get even worst .. what’s the chance for this ? I mean this suppose to be a fair game but it look like someone is controlling this game from behind i can guarantee if someone put his feet’s in this casino to see what’s happen this place will be closed for goods .. now let’s talk about these slots machine .. pragmatic provider is the only one provider who you need 4 symbol to get a bonus game we all know how it’s difficult to get them even with 3 symbols .. but not only that .. all these pragmatic slots I tried them for 6 month straight and barely see some big wins that keep you in the game 90% of time when you make a deposit and playing these slots the money is gone and you can’t never reach the amount of your deposit again to play with its literally money down the drain every single day of the week something is very wrong with this provider and I don’t think this place should be referencial for players this provider should be banned in my country they steal your money with a very low % chances of winning every swingle day is the same with them not a single day is different .. be careful when you play your money with these kind of provider this one is clearly black listed for me and I will try to see if I can start a collectif case vs them to see if we can see more about this pragmatic casino place .. I will do everything possible to see if we can finally know the truth about this place this is not normal and the smelling scam every time I hit these games

I actually didn't want to write anything more about it, but here is another post about the experience I've unfortunately had over the last three days. For years I've mostly only played the two games: Big Bass Bonanza and Christmas. Yesterday alone I got free spins on both of them at least 20 times for 2 euros and 3 euros. Each time, but each time the first angler came after the 7th spin. It didn't matter whether I had 15 or 10 free spins. Each time after the 7th spin. Each time I won less than 100 euros. On Big Bass Halloween about 10 times for 1.50 and 1.80, not once over 100 euros. On Tropicana 5 times for 2.40, 5 times for 1.20 and 5 times for 0.96 euros, not once over 50 euros. Only once, out of all the free spins above and others at least 20-25 on stakes of 1 euro, 1.20 etc., did I get to the third round and win 87 euros. Is that supposed to be random? Free spins worth over 10,000 euros with more than 80% in their pocket and the same cheap win and exactly the same process? No, it has nothing to do with randomness. It's just a very clever games provider who sets everything up for each of us depending on the type of game. In 2 years I've had thousands of free spins and not once, not even that big fish, has won 2000x. Each time I've won 10x, 12x or worse. In 50 free spins maybe once I've won 200 more than the typical win. And there are a few other people writing here that it has something to do with luck? How is it possible that after 1 or 2 spins I know exactly how the rest will go? Because it has to do with luck or with chance? Of course not, because everyone has a mindset that knows that after a few small wins we will keep playing and maybe pay more. So if anyone writes here that it is a game of chance etc. then they are definitely not completely honest. Thank you

Another addition: yesterday, for around 400 euros in deposits, I got free spins on Big Bass Bonanza and Christmas several times, once it was 150 euros, otherwise all under 50. All the money is gone, of course. From yesterday evening until recently, I deposited 600 euros, 2 x free spins of 1 euro. Of course, both times I was the first angler after the 7th spin, winning 28 euros. Who else wants to say that casino cashwin.com and pragmatic are not fraudsters? Games worth over 30,000 euros in 7 days and the same thing every time.

I guess they started reading our posts on casino guru. The series of wins over the last two weeks was something incredible and indescribable. From deposits totaling approximately EUR 400, the total winnings amount to over EUR 10,000. I lost everything to zero, because when you want to keep playing and build balance, the casino will definitely tell you no and take away all your funds. It has always been so and will be so forever. I don't want to favor any casino, but at Betunlim I had the most epic wins of my life. Try to play from Saturday to Sunday. Then a lot of people play and the chances for epic hits are the highest, in my opinion.

I don't understand one thing. If you have this opinion and you are not doing well and you think that pragmatic is a bad provider and you don't get free spins or it's only once in a while, or even if you do get it, it always pays so little, why do you keep playing on these slots ? I have a feeling that you are going against yourself and it makes absolutely no sense to lose money on something that has somehow been verified by your own judgement. 

I guess it's the first time I see that you have such screenshots and I'm sure glad if you managed to win. The other side of the coin is that you probably lost it all back, which is pretty sad, because you don't have to win that kind of money in a casino. 

But I'm pleased that it's not just about how bad everything is.

HELLO, I AM WRITTEN TO YOU FROM TURKEY. FIRST, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY ENGLISH. I ALSO THINK THE PRAGMATIC GAMES ARE SERIOUSLY FOOLED ME NOW. I BOUGHT 11 FREE HAND SPINS AND LOST 11 HANDS IN A ROW. I THINK THE GAMES WERE INTERFERED AND MANIPULATED. THE SITES I PLAY ON ARE BETNANO AND BETSAT IN TURKEY. THERE ARE INTERVENTIONS IN BOTH SITES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GAME HISTORY ADDRESSES, THE ADDRESS OF ONE IS BETSUDIOS, BASED IN MALTA, AND THE ADDRESS OF ONE IS HIS OWN SERVERS. AS MUCH AS I UNDERSTAND, THESE SERVERS ARE CHEATING WITH 3RD PARTY SOFTWARE. I AM ADDING THE SCREENSHOTS.THIS CANNOT BE CALLED LUCK. I BUY 19 GAMES ON THE BETSAT SITE, 3 GAMES A SMALL WIN, 16 GAMES A FULL LOSS. I BUY 11 GAMES ON THE BETNANO SITE, ALL 11 GAMES ARE LOST. SOMEONE PROVE TO ME THAT THIS IS NORMAL. THIS IS NOT NORMAL IT IS A SCAM

PLEASE DONT GAMBLE ANYONE. GAMBLING IS FINANCIAL RUIN. I HATE GAMBLING SO MUCH. STAKE CASINO AND PRAGMATIC PLAY ARE BIG FRAUDS. YESTERDAY I LOST 82$ IN PRAGMATIC PLAY WITH NO BONUS.

As you say, it's gambling, so you need luck. You shouldn't gamble away your important money, just what you have left when you pursue this hobby.

Most Pragmatic games are quite volatile, making it harder to win there.

Volatile = honest way of scamming

Hobby leads to addiction

Addiction leads to financial ruin

Both of your posts sound like you have quite a deep opinion on how it works. Do you care to be more specific by chance?

I also know quite a good saying, though:

"Generalization undermines objectivity, and the absence of objectivity undermines the idea."

I bet we can delve into details, though I'll leave that to you. 🙏

Strong-minded people are, from my experience, perfectly suitable to have hobbies without this side effect.

I prefer not to tend to simplify everything into a fancy verse. Perhaps you have some live experience worth sharing. Do you, by any means, need some support?