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Execution Pokerstars. Apparently, payment is not voluntary (page 94)

2 years ago by marketingskislo
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Stefan123450
3 months ago

I have to say this is indeed interesting to know:

"The player's knowledge of the invalidity of the obligation at the time of the performance - i.e. at the time of the stake - includes his knowledge of the reclaimability of the performance (given despite the invalidity of the obligation), which means that the plaintiff - due to the purpose of the prohibition already discussed - could not be harmed if he had 'concealed' from the defendant an 'intention' to sue for lost stakes later, which he may have already had when participating in the prohibited game."


The Supreme Court thus makes it clear that neither knowledge of the lack of an Austrian license by the casino provider nor an intention at the time of playing to later reclaim and sue for any losses constitutes an obstacle.


3 months ago

Anybody got any news?

The new GL Law video exudes optimism - at least with regard to Curacao.

https://youtu.be/E-HE3aFh-dk?si=Gdm0Sr562JXL9uXQ


Quick update on my loot box lawsuit, the trial is over and the verdict is expected by the end of June. The lawyer is optimistic.

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3 months ago

From a judgment of 11.7.24 what do you think about this.


The Court considers that this is not an issue that has already been dealt with by the European Court of Justice

Answer to that. It also does not seem that the law is in effect in this case

The community invoked in this case is a legal question that can be decided

from just reading the law without the help of the European Court of Justice.

The matter is sensitive and of national interest and has serious implications

a lot for the online gaming industry in Malta, which is of great importance

for Malta's economy.

The Court is convinced that it is necessary at this stage to refer the request for a preliminary ruling

welcomes the applicant’s request to refer the matter to the European Court of Justice and calls for that application to be processed as soon as possible.

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3 months ago

https://www.derstandard.at/story/3000000224222/kasino-mr-green-zahlt-spielverluste-nicht-zurueck-jetzt-pfaendet-eine-spielerin-die-website

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Reason: Just made the link passive.
3 months ago

Great thing, that can be crucial.

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3 months ago

Entertaining to read and at the same time sad how creative the lawyers and courts have to be to try to get people to get their money

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3 months ago

Interesting article. Something seems to be happening...

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3 months ago
voizua92
3 months ago

Crazy, I think this is going in the right direction for all of us. Hopefully it will go through, then they will finally pay. Jokerstars too

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3 months ago

https://www.nachrichten.at/panorama/chronik/spielsuechtiger-bekam-nach-klage-halbe-million-euro-von-wettanbieter;art58,3958982

gtaonlinezocken
3 months ago

This link does not work

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alipirhan
3 months ago

It already works for me

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3 months ago

Works😊

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3 months ago

https://www.gluecksspiel-behoerde.de/aktuelle-white-list-ggl.pdf


Take a look at this page. Further down the providers with a German license are listed.

the provider Pokerstars received a German license on 17.0.6.24.


How can it be that a provider receives a German license even though they have ignored the legally binding decision and have not paid the repayment? Such a provider cannot be reliable. As far as I know, reliability is also a prerequisite for obtaining a German license. No words.

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Baldhoffentlich
3 months ago

That’s why the Pokerstars license is being reviewed

Specifically, the GGL is examining whether Reel Germany should never have been granted a German license to offer online gambling. TSG Interactive Gaming, a sister company of Reel Germany, operates the website www.pokerstars.com (without the .de ending) and has thus also targeted German customers until at least summer 2023, although the company does not have a license for the German market.

The GGL must now clarify whether Reel Germany will lose its German license due to the unlawful activities of TSG Interactive Gaming. If this is the decision, no more online gambling will be allowed in Germany via the German Pokerstars website.

Illegal gambling: Pokerstars losses can often be reclaimed

Pokerstars was already banned in almost all of Germany in the past. Pokerstars only had a license in Schleswig-Holstein, where there have been exemptions for online gambling providers since 2012. In the rest of the country, however, the company operating the popular poker website would never have been allowed to offer gambling services. Because this happened anyway, affected gamblers can claim back the full amount of their losses incurred on Pokerstars.

Because the offer is illegal, the contracts between the Pokerstars operating company and its German customers are also void. This means that thousands of German gamblers should never have been allowed to deposit money into Pokerstars.




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abelingleakamp
3 months ago

Cool, caught it yourself?

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2 months ago

https://youtu.be/I93mSHL6pwM?si=oNGmIf-yzi_MxA0R

2 months ago

anything new with anyone??

Unfortunately no new video from G&L…

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justus99
2 months ago

Unfortunately not. Pretty grueling.

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