Execution Pokerstars. Apparently, payment is not voluntary (page 67)

Sure, the Redeker casino law firm...

And the backwoods lawyer Ramge, who writes in an article that the player is now suing Malta.

Hahahaha how stupid but also a little fiddly was he trying to be?

Thank God it didn't work out that way haha

https://www.isa-guide.de/isa-law/articles/277130.html

Exactly this lawyer then sued the casino in Malta in his own name, which then commissioned him to purchase these claims through the casino law firm Redeker...

yes, I know the article but I didn't know what was behind it. Actually, he took this to the ECJ? Why ?

He's actually speaking up for players here?

No, of course he didn't say anything specific. But all 16 major law firms that look after players have joined forces. How they will now act against them cannot be said. But they certainly researched everything very carefully. The first thing they could probably do is to present this situation in every court case, supported by facts, in order to then avert the suspension. The further matter could become criminally relevant if it is confirmed that the court in Malta was deceived and thereby misled the ECJ. One could only advise these lawyers to be excluded from the bar associations and also to take recourse, etc.

No, that's what he wrote, but it's not true. As a lawyer, he bought the claim from the casino law firm in addition to the settlement offer that the Redeker law firm negotiated with the player lawyer. With the purchased claim, he then sued this casino in Malta in his own name, according to the Redeker casino law firm. Then she managed to persuade the court to write to the ECJ. The rest is history. It came from the LG Erfurt.

Just to delay.

I just get the train station anymore. What does this mean for us and for the model lawsuits from Austria?

Can someone explain this to me please... 🙂

Haha but actually sucks because Germany didn't manage to submit it to the ECJ before or didn't find it necessary

the new Edward Snowden of online casinos 🤣

In the end, in retrospect it doesn't matter anyway because they decide anyway that player protection has to be the priority.

Otherwise some people would not have applied for the licenses and thus pushed for the 10,000 euro deposit limit

In any case, but I still don't understand the 10,000 euros. I'm horrified, like all lawyers, THE player.

But what I have concerns about is that Malta and also the casinos can be put under pressure and the ECJ could now decide very quickly and reject the request due to the disclosure if it turns out to be a mere delaying tactic.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👌

At least the case will now make waves. and I hope these w1chs3r lose their law licenses and all go into construction.

My lawyer had already disclosed this construct in great detail for the court when the other side naturally applied for the proceedings to be suspended. I just hope our judges are mentally capable of understanding this and don't suspend proceedings.

You have to remember that this sham procedure only serves to give the casinos years of time to put the millions aside and then file for bankruptcy so that none of us see a cent. and the matter with the ECJ will take years. And even if a decision has been made, the casinos can ask new legal questions and everything starts again. It is even possible that in tens of years you will have to renegotiate again at the district court! The goal is solely to delay insolvency! I hope all this shit gets stopped.

Ah guys, how much speculation and crap is written here is unbelievable.

You mix so many things together and just turn them into complete conspiracy theories. Until Bill55 came along, players from abroad could sue in their home countries and enforce in Malta. After Bill55, foreclosures were no longer carried out. Therefore, the lawyer representing a player filed a lawsuit in Malta. The court in Malta, on the other hand, took the opportunity to ask legal questions to the ECJ. For foreign courts such as in Germany, Austria and co. The legal situation was clear and did not require any clarification. That's why most courts ruled pro player. Why should courts in Germany contact the ECJ, for example, if the legal situation is already clear to them?

Malta, which lives from tax revenues from casinos, naturally wants to protect its industry and invokes freedom to provide services in the EU. So they reopened the old question that had already been resolved around 2010.

Now it is the case that if there is no decision this year, hundreds/thousands of lawsuits will be prevented and if this year ends the statute of limitations will also officially end.

I think that some people are grasping at any straw, but the fact is that the Higher Regional Court, where negotiations are taking place over slots and poker, have no choice but to suspend the proceedings until the ECJ has answered. This is a fact and in the next few weeks and months you will see more and more decisions from the higher regional courts that will pause processes. Regional courts can still oppose this, but not higher courts.

Edit: The decision will most likely be for the consumer, but next year no one will be able to sue because the statute of limitations has expired. Because everyone should know about the illegality by 2021 + 3 years of statute of limitations at the latest. In 2025, no one can claim that they found out later than 2021. This means that the casinos have gained valuable time in the crucial year to avert further lawsuits. If the decision is made before the end of the year this year, there will be a flood of lawsuits.

Nothing speculation, very well researched by the lawyers. And Olgs don't have to suspend, even if the BGH is currently suspending proceedings because of the ECJ. An OLG allowed the appeal to the BGH, but also ruled in the player's favor and did not suspend it. The OLGs will not issue anything, nor will they continue to do so.

Yes, that's how I see it too and that's why news comes out that everyone should file a lawsuit and not allow themselves to be intimidated.

that's it

In the end it's all about the money anyway and if they continue to play with licenses at least the money for the new lawsuit will be made available until then there will be no more lawsuits or not to such an extent...

Yes, it basically concerns poker licenses and that will be available on March 7th. a negotiation about it anyway

Even if the BGH has decided to suspend proceedings, the regional and higher regional courts do not have to agree with this opinion. Because it is at their own discretion whether they carry out a procedure. Some courts have already rejected applications from online casino operators to suspend proceedings. Most recently, for example, the Berlin Regional Court rejected such an application for suspension with a ruling dated January 17, 2024.

That's correct. So I have to go to bed. The alarm clock rings at 4. Good night

True.