11 months ago
I assume that questions have just been asked of the ECJ and we are now just waiting for an answer from them.
Then the negotiations continue 🙂
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Execution Pokerstars. Apparently, payment is not voluntary (page 43)
11 months ago
Meanwhile, new judgments regarding Poke*star* can be read on ecourts.
Has anyone by chance already read this?
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11 months ago
So for me it took exactly 6 months from 2 providers, Bayton Ltd and 888, from the filing of the lawsuit to the repayment.
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11 months ago
Yes, that was once haha
There were a few exceptions anyway
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11 months ago
Exactly, but there will be a hefty rebuff because the EU Court of Justice ruled in 2010 that it is up to each country to determine how the laws are interpreted. Here in Germany, all attempts by providers to request a suspension of proceedings have so far been rejected for the reason that a ruling on this had already been made in 2010.
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11 months ago
Yes, I even noticed that and read some articles. It would really be time for the first reports to finally come from the ECJ and the model cases to be won.
It's been going on for a long time...
For some procedures, the dates are scheduled for 01/2024 and 03/2024. I'm curious to see whether any judgment will ever be made. So far there isn't a single one and that's more than strange
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11 months ago
But from the Eugh in 2010, all Olgs adhere to this and completely reject suspensions. The ECJ will declare the laws from Malta unconstitutional. Wait a minute, I'll take a look at the judgment from Eugh from 2010. Even one from 2021.
In recovery processes, illegal online casinos regularly rely on a license from Malta. They argue that this EU license is also valid in Austria and therefore the operation of the online casino is legal. It is alleged that the Austrian gambling law violates Union law and that the legal casinos of Win2day and Casinos Austria are engaging in unauthorized advertising. The European Court of Justice has now contradicted these arguments in a recent decision (ECJ May 18, 2021, C-920/19, Fluctus/Fluentum):
The ECJ has ruled that advertising by legal casinos - even on a significant scale - can be permissible in order to steer players from illegal platforms to controlled casinos. This applies all the more "if the illegal activities are of a considerable extent and the measures adopted are aimed at directing consumers' desire to gamble into lawful channels". Circumstances such as aggressive advertising measures by illegal providers, as seen daily on TV or on the Internet, also need to be taken into account.
You should actually know😁
Here is the verdict from 2010
The Court of Justice has decided that the examination of the consistency of restrictive measures in the gaming sector under EU law is a matter for the national courts in individual cases (cf. ECJ, judgment of September 8, 2010 - C-46/08, Coll. 2010, I-8149 = NVwZ 2010, 1422 No. 65 - Carmen Media Group). The for
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11 months ago
Yes, I am aware of these judgments, thank you again for making them available.
I was thinking more about judgments from Malta on the current model cases. There isn't a single one yet, but a decision will probably soon be made based on the ECJ rulings from previous years.
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11 months ago
That's what I'm expecting. You can't forbid them from suspending proceedings until a verdict is reached. Here in Germany, my level of knowledge is that so far all casinos that want to have a license in Germany also pay for their illegal items from previous years immediately. As for the others, my stand is that they are trying to appeal in German courts, but there is no chance. And when it comes to European enforcement orders, no Maltese court deals with them anymore, at least that's what I've heard and read from the CLLB law firm here in Germany.
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11 months ago
What do you mean by, And with the European enforcement order, no Maltese court deals with it anymore? There are hundreds of cases going on right now.
Mr Green has a license in Germany and does not pay and there are also proceedings against the provider.
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11 months ago
According to EU law, the courts in Malta are not allowed to do anything against the European enforcement orders; in doing so, the Maltese courts are breaking European law. Mr Green has only recently received this license and can lose it all the more quickly if you do not comply with the law. Besides, who needs Malta, completely unnecessary. If they no longer receive EU money, they are welcome to let the casinos provide them.
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11 months ago
Yes, that's why money should soon flow more and more
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11 months ago
For me personally, the whole thing has been taking far too long and I don't think about the money anymore. Jockerstars had to deposit the money in court in Malta but the judges simply did not decide in our favor. I don't think anything will change that quickly. Cheeky as always
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11 months ago
Have you already read the judgments from December 11, 2023?
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11 months ago
No, what should it say?
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11 months ago
Or where should I be able to read these? Thanks
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11 months ago
Can you please tell me what this is about? Can't translate that on my cell phone 😉
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11 months ago
Please say what it says. Thanks!
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11 months ago
I don't read much into it. But there are 9 judgments from December 11th.
But nothing was decided, right?
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