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3 years ago by marketingskislo
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chinyuhansinhua
1 year ago

Yes, but it is public policy because of Bill 55 and the funds are deposited. I find that interesting because it stands until there is a final decision in the pending proceedings.

why are you so crazy all the time? There are 1000s waiting just as long as you, these are now mass procedures.

Which casino did you sue??? If you have already had your procedures in Malta, then you are one of the first to get something anyway and before the others who don't even have the title...

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chinyuhansinhua
1 year ago

I think this is about new licenses that will be issued in the next few years and the online casinos want this license.

There are certainly bilateral discussions taking place that we don't notice or know anything about.

But since the number of cases has skyrocketed so much, there may be several reasons why it is taking so long.

They are definitely corrupt there!

But those who wait the longest are generally already ahead of others. It shouldn't sound alarming, but until you get a trial date... it will probably take almost a year until the decision is made.

So that's exactly why the link would have been interesting to follow the proceedings further. You too probably had the money deposited in Malta long ago…

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voizua92
1 year ago

No licenses are issued here, in Austria no one other than Casinos Austria has ever received a license and no one else will ever receive a license. It takes so long because the rule of law doesn't work but can be bought, and since they can buy whoever and whatever they want with our money, we will never get a cent back, no matter what you think, where something is "deposited", if something is deposited then just to pay the H.... And not only in Malta itself, the courts in this country decide in their favor, only Ltd. Daughters who are not liable for anything anyway and absolve the companies behind them. The players are being executed by the parent company while at the same time the debts are not being paid by the subsidiary and the proceedings are being delayed.

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chinyuhansinhua
1 year ago

The licenses expire in 2026. Of course they want to have a license to offer it legally.

Casinos Austria is actually majority owned by Czechs. Logically, this is an argument as to why a monopoly is only granted for a casino when it is not even majority owned by Austrians.

Regarding the deposited funds, if you have a title, then the casino will deposit the money in court. That means yours is already there and will only be released when there is a decision from the ECJ.

Until recently, you could clearly read this on the ecourts website in the temporary resolutions.



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voizua92
1 year ago

@voizua92


what about creditors from Austria? Does this apply to them too?


I financed everything myself...should I initiate an execution now or just wait?

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player37
1 year ago

Unfortunately I can't tell you that because I only saw a list of costs from a debt collection agency in Malta and I think the costs there were extremely high.

But if you have a title, you can definitely find a lawyer to do it for you. Must be proportionate to the amount you are suing for..

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player37
1 year ago

At best you can wipe your ass with the title, with toilet paper prices you can be happy if the court was so generous and you get the verdict in printed form, that covers at least part of the losses, you won't see anything more with it and now an execution Financing yourself in Malta is probably more than foolish, just waiting, of course. If you finance everything yourself and are not dependent on the inactive process financiers, I would check whether the managing directors have assets somewhere in Europe, such as real estate, and if so, I would personally sue the managing directors from the Ltd. There will never be any money for companies. They are not liable due to the form of the company. Ltd is even worse than our GmbH, they are only liable for a ridiculous ~30,000 and a ltd is liable for nothing!

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chinyuhansinhua
1 year ago

What does this have to do with the Ltd and the assets with illegally earned money?

Otherwise they wouldn't deposit the money. The Supreme Court also suspends the applications to suspend the proceedings and does not approve the online casinos.

I don't know why you assume that money will never flow. Some of these are listed companies. There are requirements and it's not as easy as you think and constantly write here.

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voizua92
1 year ago

nonsense show me a title against a listed company, you have a title against a Ltd., the listed companies behind them are also protected by our courts. What's supposed to stop them from doing so? to send the company into bankruptcy and continue with a new company. That's exactly what they will do when the verdicts become really serious at some point. And you don't even get a percentage from the bankruptcy estate because the assets are simply transferred to the parent company. Wouldn't be the first to do exactly that and get away with it.

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chinyuhansinhua
1 year ago

When the time comes, the ECJ has ruled in favor of the players and the deposited funds will be released. Of course, it can be more difficult for those who aren't quite there yet.

No one can give you a prognosis for lawsuits that haven't even received a judgment yet.

Large companies partly belong to 888 and William Hill. Here again the money is shifted to the maximum and this is verifiable, very simple.

You've been waiting for 5 years, you say, which casino are you interested in, if I may ask?



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chinyuhansinhua
1 year ago

Yes, then everyone is in the same boat…

The legal situation is clear, apparently everyone is now angry because the process was conveyed differently by the lawyers and PKF and it doesn't happen that way.

I completely understand...


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voizua92
1 year ago

The legal situation is not at all clear; the Austrian state still collects taxes on the illegal sales. If I'm caught at the airport with 2 tons of coke, they won't collect a few million in import sales tax and wave me through, no, I'll just be booked in. Actually, you would have to sue the tax office for the illegal income, they could start by paying at least part of the players' damages. They deliberately ignore the illegal activities in order to enrich themselves - corrupt xxxxxx - and have been doing so for decades

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1 year ago

The site is working again from Austria.

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gtaonlinezocken
1 year ago

Yes, totally, I saw it earlier

so sick, the execution procedures are simply not recognized for strange reasons. The costs must be borne by Sarah Sultana 😂


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voizua92
1 year ago

I just don't fully understand... Were the appeals of the casinos or the complaining parties upheld in the verdicts??? Funny reading the technical jargon

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1 year ago

A new video from the law firm G&L, about the execution proceedings...maybe interesting for you!


https://youtu.be/d5AnpDOw0rI?si=7imDWkLfqBrDqbR0

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1 year ago

https://www.anwalt.de/rechtstipps/online-gluecksspiel-vorlagebeschluss-zum-eugh-c-440-23-entscheidung-von-hoechster-stelle-218969.html

1 year ago

Since yesterday you can view 5 completed judgments against PS on the site.


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gtaonlinezocken
1 year ago

And what does it say? Have you already translated the judgments?

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voizua92
1 year ago

Well, it's right there anyway, as well as the other one...

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