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Create petition for casinos to advertise real RTPs of slot machines

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5 months ago
ptus

What do you think?


I see all the slot machines advertising from 90% upwards, but in reality the RTP is often divided into tranches, for example:

  • 30% in normal rounds
  • 25% in bonus rounds
  • 25% in any other slot mode.

(example)

In other words, I think it would be interesting to advertise the real RTP's as they are sold to operators, it would be fairer and more transparent for everyone.


Public example: https://www.pgsoft.com/uploads/Games/Pdf/CaishenWins_Gameinformation_EN.pdf


Open to new ideas.

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kingzzzz
4 months ago

Well, all this should be controlled by the game providers and the licensing authority in each casino, actually.

Casinos shouldn't do as they want, I believe, and should always display the real RTP.

May I ask, how can you be sure about these numbers, though? How can you calculate the RTP at some casino yourself?

Romi
4 months ago
ptus

I'm not at all sure what the operators' real RTPs are, because unfortunately that's not public, and obviously all the machines have to make a profit...

But it would be interesting to have a study on the high prizes (which are the ones that really adjust the RTP positively) to see if they are won by medium/long-term players, or by new players who have just arrived in this casino world. Even for the sake of transparency, it would be good to have studies.

I've been doing a brief search and haven't found anything about it.

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kingzzzz
4 months ago

Hello, same topic I see. 😀

I believe, hence, the response may also be the same as here 👈 Sorry for stepping in, just one point:

In licensed casinos with original games, the RNG runs nonstop; it does not matter who plays.

I'm wondering why Portuguese casinos seem to be so intriguing for someone who set Nigeria as their country of origin. I'm really just curious; feel free to continue with the very same conversation in the other thread, if you like. Thanks!


Radka
4 months ago
ptus

I selected Nigeria out of curiosity to see which game operators worked there, nothing more.

In the future I'll leave a compilation of results from "Portuguese" sites with: stake, number of spins and RTP, for each game.

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kingzzzz
4 months ago

I see now, thank you. You know, our website is becoming increasingly tailored to each user's country settings, which sometimes causes a bit of a mess because players can't see the same results. We occasionally find a missing piece on your side, so I was hoping that all is correctly accessible. 🙂

It seems you truly enjoy data collecting and testing; is that so? Well, if I may, the more spin, the better. However, most games will only reveal the true RTP if reverse-engineered. For example, the more special features the game offers, the greater the number of volatility variants it has. This also affects the RTP if you attempt to assess it with an insufficient number of spins.

I thought you might find this information useful.

4 months ago

I see now, thank you. You know, our website is becoming increasingly tailored to each user's country settings, which sometimes causes a bit of a mess because players can't see the same results. We occasionally find a missing piece on your side, so I was hoping that all is correctly accessible. 🙂

It seems you truly enjoy data collecting and testing; is that so? Well, if I may, the more spin, the better. However, most games will only reveal the true RTP if reverse-engineered. For example, the more special features the game offers, the greater the number of volatility variants it has. This also affects the RTP if you attempt to assess it with an insufficient number of spins.

I thought you might find this information useful.

4 months ago
ptus

It was even more to see if there were any sites offering good initial promotions abroad, as here in Portugal they are limited.

As you can probably see, I've already registered on some without clearing my cookies (affiliating with you) and I've even deposited on one or the other.

I don't collect data from anywhere, I've just demanded my total history from all the companies I've played for in order to do this study (using only my data), and if they authorize it I'll publish it in the future, but it'll take weeks or months perhaps.

That's what I mean about RTP's, Slots should present these "RTP's for special resources" it would be the right thing heheheh


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kingzzzz
4 months ago

I think I caught your drift now. I also find bonus offers from abroad to be more interesting than the options available in my country. 😀

In any case, that sounds like a very complex plan! I guess it will be fascinating to see how long it takes to get complete gaming history. As far as I recall, not every casino is willing to provide complete gaming history, based on player complaints I witnessed and associated difficulties on a few occasions.

The concept of having an RTP for special resources is also quite intriguing! But I'm probably more used to the volatility level, which, in my opinion, says it all, since some providers directly offer you a button for changing between low and high volatility during the game.

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