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So I decided to quit online casinos. That's because I found out that providers work with profit limitation and the casino across the board. It's no coincidence if you win €600 on play'n Go and then nothing comes for 1 year. The slots remember the IP addresses of the players and also remember the payout across the casino, of course. For example, if you lost €800 on Play'n Go, you will be paid back €700 to €760 sometime after 6 months or sometimes after a week depending on when payday is. Means you are always in the red and can't make a plus at all. Only as a new player to get you hooked let them win you on purpose and after that you can only chase your losses.

I even have proof that the providers work with profit limitation. Bank statements, screenshots of my game history and losses and wins. The profits are never more than the losses one is always 6% in the loss area. The providers have set the slots in such a way that the slots do not pay out anything after a big win.

In every casino you get a new ID, but the slots secretly save the IP addresses and you will always be the loser. It is impossible to do in an online casino plus. Guys you all play for free just trust me it doesn't make any sense.

I agree there is definitely a profit limitation attached to slots. In my case it’s how much a slot will let you win before the RTP goes right down and all you get is dead spins and lousy bonuses if you get any at all. I was given a €100 no deposit bonus I got up to €253 then nothing but dead spins and really lousy bonus features until I was at 0. I could show in a court of law my playing history that it isn’t an RNG with a 96.5% RTP there is something more sinister going on in the world of online gambling. As for me packing it in I keep going back because I get bored and unfortunately not that bright to have the intelligence to do so

I'll give you a few examples, I lose 450€ at Jamin jars, nothing comes for 2 months and then after 2 months suddenly 20 cents make a profit of 420€ and more was not possible. Legacy of dead 680€ loss and after 3 months 600€ more profit was not possible. Gates of olimp 500€ loss over 1 month and then suddenly lo and behold on 50 cents 480€ and I noted everything that can't be a coincidence. Above all, the winning rounds are always the same. I know exactly what's coming next. The slots look to me as if they were preset. The providers pretend to make a profit by collecting the players' money over months and then paying 96% of it back to exactly the same player. This is fraud even if the 96% is paid out. Because if I don't have the opportunity to land a huge hit by accident, there's no point in playing online at all. I've been playing for 8 years and I've never seen 5 heads in those 8 years. I play Book of dead, Legacy of dead, Ramses Book no matter what books play never seen 5 heads on a high bet let alone low bet. That's why people you have to believe me you're getting screwed. It may be that one or the other was lucky and won big, but they just want to lure you with it. Please do me a favor and kick these providers in the ass and drop the online casinos.

Well like you said you have now worked out what is going on so do what you said and quit. I’m going to get my next pay check and spend my allowance for gambling and if I get no joy I’ll be joining you

First of all, it's impossible to build balance with low bets. Because the providers know exactly when there are several free spins for a bet of €100, the casinos may go bankrupt. The players with low bets are first used as cannon fodder for high rollers. Here as an example player x deposits €25 and plays with a bet of 20 cents and gets 15 free spins and then maybe only one rollover and only very rarely 4 rollovers. I personally have never seen Book of dead give 100 free spins. There is almost always a maximum of 30 free spins and it is therefore almost impossible for players with small stakes to build up balance. The high rollers get free spins for every €100 bet and it is enough if the game is only extended once. I think the providers still have to change a few things so that online casinos are really fair. Above all, I am annoyed by all the scam free spins. You get free spins for a bet of €5, we’re talking about a bet of €5 and then there’s a €30 profit. I mean if the slot already gives €5 free spins with 15 rounds, then there should be at least a €500 win minimum. What's the point of the €5 free spins then? Pragmatic play does this extremely often and annoys the players, but play'n Go is not as bad as Pragmatic but still very often scam free spins and that's annoying.

This is an example of something wrong with online casinos.

1€ free spins and only 0.10 cent win and 9 free spins super or really super. Thanks to Netent, Play'n Go, Pragmatic thanks for nothing but losses. The profit was -0.9x 🤣🤣🤣🤣

This is a play'n Go slot. I played again to show you what kind of crime is committed in online casinos. In the picture is a slot from play'n Go I deposited €20 and the last €3 or €5 is the game with €1 bet in the free spins. The game rolled over 1 time and I had 9 free spins. In nine free spins on a €1 bet I was paid 0.10 cents.

Can you find this game in our free game library and try it out for free? I'd like to know whether you can tell any difference.

Did you ever play in a German licensed casino? The overall RTP is decreased due to law restrictions, more precisely additional fees are applied and the player is legally in a disadvantageous position.

This was a casino without a German license from Malta. These weird wins don't just happen once. This happens quite often in play'n Go. I once got a €5 bet on the Legacy of Dead slot and it only paid out €50. Or €17 for a €2 bet, even €2.80 for a €2 bet, and that happens in every online casino. Whether Bwin, Vera and John and otherwise such a reputable online casino.

Netent hasn't paid me anything for years as a scam every 2 years you win 1000€ at Dead or Alive but until then the slot swallows 10000€.

Pragmatic Play is at the forefront when it comes to scam free spins. Believe me online casinos cheat or the operators have roof damage.

I think the German state is right, it should not only be seen as illegal but as a criminal offense to play online.

In any case, I'm so pissed off with Play'n Go and co that I don't want to play anymore.

The slot Razor shark sometimes gives free spins and you only get €0 despite a €1 bet in the free spins.

Sometimes the slots spin 500 rounds without free spins. Someone has to stop this nonsense and file a complaint against these mafia organizations.

Personally, I made a final deposit just to demonstrate to the people here on the forums that online casinos are not fair as you state.

On a €1 bet I would have expected at least €50 and that's a scam, but only 0.10 cents is fraud.

People please stop playing there is a scam going on the slots are getting stingy and don't pay out for months. It is hardly possible to build up your balance with small bets and win something big. Please stop playing

I would not say that it's all so simple, although I understand your frustration.

If y don't like it, don't play I agree with you on this. Do not take it personally, but I can't see those bets and wins hardly as proof, simply because you would need tons of rounds to get a proper pool for analyzing.

See:

" EXAMPLE

If a game RTP is 96%, it means that if you start with $1,000,000,000 and then play 1,000,000,000 rounds at $1 each, then you should end up with approximately $960,000,000 dollars."

Another part is volatility, special features buy free spin and so on - it would all need the auto-reverse engineering to even find out how the volatility gets affected, but lots of players simply think that it means that you just have to win more than you bet.

I'm sorry I went through numerous guides about slots and I'm sure that it's not possible to win big very often.

There are some strategies, however, but basically, it's about getting the wide pool for high stakes to be able to win big sooner or lose all soon. The player is required to get some idea about RTP, and volatility as well.

Sources:

https://casino.guru/slot-machine-strategies

https://casino.guru/how-slot-machines-work-math

I can imagine, that player like you would not change his mind easily, that's ok, I'm not much of a player myself so I can understand that my attitude toward slots is pretty low in general.

I pushed the investigation much beyond you or anyone not related to casinos and i can assure you that you are on the right track. Just quit, you are wasting your time as you will never stop seeing these wins related to your losses and it will become even worst when you figure more things as i did. I don't "hype" online anymore. I don't enjoy big wins because they are the % of my losses back meaning after i am guaranteed to lose no matter where or what i play till next "loss refund" disguised as wins.

I kept telling people for years... "games are set to give the exact RTP and everything is controlled... if you listen to them you will indeed see your RTP over years is spot on. But the thing is.. it is not spot on because of odds or anything. It is spot on because it is controlled to be spot on. It is all controlled we can't win long term in that system. The 0.0000001% odds of being that lucky mofo... that doesn't exist. We pay for a simulation of casino. That's why they have the term about playing and depositing only for entertainment purposes. Cause that's all it is a game.. a simulation... algorythms that redistribute and control your RTP depending oon your actions, bets and results. What happened to you yesterday have a direct effect on your outcome today and tomorrow etc. It is not random, we just don't know what is coming but they do.

There are AI's algorythms that control all this. It controls the players, us. It show us things, make things happens in ways that entice you into wagering more, betting bigger, play longer, to the last cent. It become so crazy i just can't play anymore i am totally addicted but to something i came to understand, does not exist. You saw the tricks, you figured the most important and it will either make you quit over time or drive you completly crazy. Careful... remember.. we can only win what we lost... if we profit, it is a temporary loan that games will take back from you in the future making it literally impossible to win unless you quit everytime you hit lol.

p.s.: A typical cycle for me is to play and always lose then at some point one day it starts hitting everything like magic then i know i check my losses -1200$.. fine i know my "potential" where it will die. Then no matter where i go or what i do i hit and rip but run with over 100% RTP till i get the last hit that gets me around 1200$ usually looks like 1200$- house edge . Then when i tried to push id only win more cauz i lost more and if i stop losing that much then ii never hit again. If i push and "luck out" and with 1200$ losses i hit 2400$ then i know that next 1200$ wagered will pay back 0.. no matter where.. cauz i capped my losses and i have sme profits. Profits have 0% RTP on all games. Thats why everyone that win big always die straight after and everyone wonders how it was possible.. well its programmed.. it is computers... forget rng and fairytales its much much darker.

In a German offline casino it is not possible to win by betting in the free spins.

It is fraud with a bet of €1 to win only 0.10 cents and everyone knows that. I quit devenetiv and will never invest in online casinos again. I don't need to be so cheeky about play'n Go and co.

So sorry I consider what was paid as a scam and there is so much else you can tell me about RTP. A profit limit is fraud and all online casinos should definitely be banned. I hope the German authorities will find what they are looking for here in the forum and finally ban all providers in online casinos.

I think that this is the point, quit playing if the odds are against you.

Have to say that the German authorities are working hard on this subject, If I may say.

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Also, casino games aren't there to earn money, you will most likely lose money on them no matter what you pick (lottery, bingo, live games, slots), they are for entertainment with the REMOTE CHANCE of winning something, just use money you are willing to lose, once you deposit in any casino you should consider that money lost. Stick to high RTP games, my personal choices are baccarat, craps and blackjack (all live dealer) and when it comes to slots I only play Mega Joker, Secret of the Stones and Gonzo's Quest and if I ever touch any other slot it's only for bonus buys, always having in mind gambling is a guaranteed loss

Hello there.

You should keep in mind you won't get any richer by playing a casino. Opposedly, consider all deposited money as lost, that would be more reasonable.

May I suggest you a guide for new players? I feel you should learn how casinos work first. You know this is a massive business, a paid fun.

I unintentionally used the same words 😀. Well-written advice as always!✨