My responds are under review once I mention the name haha its dutch bank
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Sabine1984
player0990
Diamond
player0990
5 months ago
Once you mention its gambling transactions they simply say you approved the transactions and you could play the bought services and it ends there.
Doesnt matter wrong mcc code etc
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Fire4ice
Gold
Sabine1984
5 months ago
My responds are under review once I mention the name haha its dutch bank
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5 months ago
Remember both some of the casinos and also the banks are part of this thread. Not hard to spot some of them.
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Sabine1984
Fire4ice
Diamond
Fire4ice
5 months ago
Yes they probably reading this thread I know. The casino's do deff.
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Fire4ice
Gold
Sabine1984
5 months ago
Yes they probably reading this thread I know. The casino's do deff.
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5 months ago
For your bank transfers did you pay with a debit card?
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Sabine1984
Fire4ice
Diamond
Fire4ice
5 months ago
Credit card
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player0990
Fire4ice
Platinum
Fire4ice
5 months ago
Because the bank is obligated to initiate a chargeback if it is properly filed; if it does not, it is committing an offense. The bank does not treat a client the same as a lawyer.
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Fire4ice
Gold
Sabine1984
5 months ago
Credit card
Creditcard
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5 months ago
Is it legal to gamble in Cryuff land with credit card?
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player0990
Sabine1984
Platinum
Sabine1984
5 months ago
Some banks do and others don't; for that you need a lawyer. You can mention that it was a game, but the bank has to prove that it was a game and that's why they didn't initiate the chargeback, and believe me, it's not easy for them; your statement alone isn't enough.
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Fire4ice
Gold
player0990
5 months ago
Because the bank is obligated to initiate a chargeback if it is properly filed; if it does not, it is committing an offense. The bank does not treat a client the same as a lawyer.
Porque el banco si tiene la obligación de inciar un contracargo si está planteado correctamente, sino lo incia está cometiendo una falta , el banco no trata igual a un Cliente que a un abogado
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5 months ago
So you would bring them to the conduct authority...are you saying to sue the bank?
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Sabine1984
Fire4ice
Diamond
Fire4ice
5 months ago
Haha ! Yes it is you can play with CC even with legal casino's.
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Sabine1984
player0990
Diamond
player0990
5 months ago
Like I said once you mention gambling the bank says no. Doesnt matter what you say.
Thats why so many people dont mention gambling with a chargeback.
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player0990
Fire4ice
Platinum
Fire4ice
5 months ago
If we have to sue the bank, then yes, but that's why I say it depends on the amount in dispute; it might not be worth it.
If you ask any lawyer, they'll tell you.
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player0990
Sabine1984
Platinum
Sabine1984
5 months ago
I've already explained it to you, and if you read the whole thread you'll see that some people, being honest, have managed to get the bank to initiate a chargeback, but you have to plan things properly.
If you don't believe me, go to a good lawyer and ask them. A consultation costs €100-150, and believe me, it will be the best investment of your life.
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Sabine1984
Diamond
5 months ago
It's simply a crooked system. You're banned from gambling in your own country for whatever reason. You still get the urge to gamble and throw everything at a foreign casino that has no duty of care, and takes advantage of you. In your own country, there are rules that say none of this is allowed. And then you go to the bank and they say, "Too bad, you deposited yourself, goodbye." As long as the banks perpetuate this, it will continue.
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Fire4ice
Gold
player0990
5 months ago
Because the bank is obligated to initiate a chargeback if it is properly filed; if it does not, it is committing an offense. The bank does not treat a client the same as a lawyer.
Porque el banco si tiene la obligación de inciar un contracargo si está planteado correctamente, sino lo incia está cometiendo una falta , el banco no trata igual a un Cliente que a un abogado
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5 months ago
So what would you advise the lawyer to do?
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Fire4ice
Gold
Sabine1984
5 months ago
Like I said once you mention gambling the bank says no. Doesnt matter what you say.
Thats why so many people dont mention gambling with a chargeback.
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5 months ago
Only if its mastercard...visa you have a chance
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Sabine1984
Fire4ice
Diamond
Fire4ice
5 months ago
Unfortunately its mastercard 🤣
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player0990
Fire4ice
Platinum
Fire4ice
5 months ago
To begin with, you should file a police report, explain to the bank what happened, and if they refuse, go with a lawyer. The lawyer will know what to say, but banks have a duty of care; they usually reach an agreement before going to court because they know it's unlikely they'll win in court, and if they lose, they set a precedent.
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player0990
Fire4ice
Platinum
Fire4ice
5 months ago
I've made quite a bit of money back with Mastercard, even though it's a gamble; if you plan it right, there are options.
But let's be honest, banks aren't stupid, and I understand it's frustrating that they don't initiate chargebacks, but if someone doesn't authorize 10-15 transactions and receives nothing... that's suspicious, and that's where the problem starts.