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Check the legality of the final decision-making authority in the terms and conditions.

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The terms and conditions of stakemania (Casiworx NV) state:


"21.2. Casiworx has final decision authority on breaches of rules or terms."


Is this legal and compatible with LOK?


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Dragi
2 months ago

Hello again, in my opinion, it is a standard formula that states, in other words, that the casino reserves the right to render final judgment if the customer violates its own terms.

In practice, this usually just means that:

  • the casino makes the initial decision
  • it may assess whether a breach of the rules has occurred
  • it may apply sanctions in accordance with the Terms and Conditions (T&Cs).

When it comes to LOK, I see only an indirect relation from the perspective of disputing the casino judgement on the regulator level.

2 weeks ago

Hi Dragi,

I’m currently in a very similar dispute with StakeMania regarding the Rewards Calendar €5 max-bet rule. I saw that your complaint eventually reached ADR. Could you please tell me which ADR provider StakeMania referred your case to, and how you obtained access to the ADR process? It would help me a lot. Thank you.

Sabertooth666666
2 weeks ago

Hello, I'm sorry for stepping in. I just want to highlight the possibility of lodging a free complaint request, which may allow our dedicated mediators to investigate the situation.

Let me know if you are interested in more details, please.

Radka
2 weeks ago

Hi Radka,

Thank you, I appreciate that.

I have already submitted a formal complaint directly to StakeMania and am currently waiting for their response.

I will get back to you when they don't resolve the matter.

Thank you for your help.

Radka
2 weeks ago

Hi Radka,

Just one follow-up question regarding this. Since I have already submitted a formal complaint directly to StakeMania and am currently waiting for their response, would you recommend that I submit the complaint to Casino Guru now, or would it be better to wait until StakeMania has responded first?

I just want to make sure I follow the correct process.

Thank you again for your help.

Sabertooth666666
2 weeks ago

Hi, you are welcome. This is a really good question and hence, I did a bit of digging.

The problem I found is that, based on our experience with Casino Guru's complaint efforts, this particular casino has not been very cooperative with situations concerning higher winnings. As a result, its current safety index is nearest to zero... https://casino.guru/stakemania-casino-review 👈


Under those circumstances, I see no harm in lodging the complaint request now. It could eventually motivate the operator to be more cooperative with you. Besides, our complaint process usualy needs some time to progress further, so this action could be a sort of a shortcut.

Are you familiar with lodging the request? Check out this link, please: https://casino.guru/complaints/create I'll try to check on you soon, but will probably be out of sight on Monday.

Radka
2 weeks ago

Hi Radka,


Just to let you know, I have now submitted the complaint to Casino Guru as you suggested.


Thank you for your help. I appreciate it.


Kind regards,

Lars

Sabertooth666666
2 weeks ago

Hi Lars. I see, thank you too. Let's hope something can be done now.

Please let me know how you're getting on with that complaint or in general. No need to rush, of course. The complaint usually needs some time and I probably won't be much around here today.

2 weeks ago

The phrase "final decision" in the terms sounds much stronger than it actually is. A casino can call its internal decision final, but that doesn't automatically mean the player loses the right to challenge it through an ADR, regulator, or other dispute process.

What would matter to me is whether the casino can clearly explain which rule was broken and provide evidence for its decision. If they simply hide behind this wording and refuse to explain anything, then the clause becomes much more questionable.

Diegog
2 weeks ago

In my opinion, you described the theory well. Prax may look entirely different.

Check out this thread for example 👈

It's important to keep the reality in the spotlight while helping players realize how those steps actually work. What do you think?

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