Execution Pokerstars. Apparently, payment is not voluntary (page 55)

I can tell you that everyone is now waiting for the ECJ until it has to speak correctly again, even though the situation has already been ruled on by the ECJ for years, only last year. There are already executions underway in the Maltese courts. But since the Maltese government has introduced a new law to protect casinos, which is contrary to EU law, as all lawyers say and the ECJ has already ruled against casinos more than once, the Maltese courts have asked the ECJ questions . Until then, all executions against the casinos will rest there. However, the casinos had to provide security in the court. So the money will be safe for consumers if the EU Court of Justice classifies the new Maltese law as contrary to EU law and then initiates infringement proceedings against Malta. I hope I explained it correctly.

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Yes, I improved it. The Maltese courts are simply unsettled by the illegal new law. The federal government has therefore asked the questions to the ECJ. Whether you are truly independent or whether you are buying yourself to buy time is also the question. In doubt for the accused.

Sorry, I always have to write very quickly, I'm sitting at work 😁, so there are always spelling mistakes, sorry.

Appeal negotiations are taking place today. Let's see what happens …

They're just playing for a while anyway, otherwise some of them wouldn't get the license in Germany and carry on like that

Exactly, a second reason will be that the Austrian market is dead for the casinos because you cannot get a license, so the casinos are now ignoring many judgments from Austria in order to simply discourage consumers. But in the end it will all fall on their feet. At least you judgments that are already in court are secured by the security provided by the casinos, I think. Of course, many could now let the operators go bankrupt. But in Germany, new, similar operators would probably not get a license because they would then not be considered reliable. At least that's how it should be handled in Germany.

On the Advofin website there is a reference to a judgment from 2011. They also continue to promote player complaints in their latest posts.

Here the ECJ and everyone else made a judgment against the online gambling providers regarding freedom of services.

So you all knew for years that the monopoly was permitted in Austria and that you could not refer to the freedom to provide services.

I think it was explicitly about Bet at Home…

ECJ C-347/09 that is the judgment.

Exactly, there was already a ruling in 2009 when it was about Portugal and the freedom to provide services §56 freedom to provide services

Yes, that is the procedure anyway. Started in 2009 and was legally confirmed in 2011.

Ahh, OK. So this time they only cook with water. What I can't understand are the players who know this and then go on to play illegally. But that's another topic. 😁

I don't think they read through 100 pages of technical jargon from 2009 or 2011 before they play.

It is all the more surprising that, despite such judgments, the casinos were represented in the advertisements and offered their games.

Exactly. In Germany, one federal state withdrew from the state treaty and granted some licenses, Schleswig Holstein. They were then allowed to advertise there, which of course has not yet been complied with. The rest of the shit is still being shown, even though OLG rulings, from Cologne for example, have banned advertising and so on. They always wrote in the small print that playing is only permitted for players based in SH. If this player is traveling in Hamburg, it would be illegal 😁😁

Have you listened to my former lawyer, Mr. Cocron's (CLLB) potcast on Spotify "Bill55". He also comments on the causes in Austria.

Yes, I already know that.

Various lawyers from Austria and Germany have the same opinion and have joined forces.

That's exactly how it is. I'm also on LinkedIn and read a lot from them. Among other things, the ECJ judgments are also shown, no matter what. Eugh has a side to that too.

Yes, that's right, Benedikt Quarch has also often reported on this.

There is a large law firm in Munich, but it will always be on the side of the casinos. A typical lobby law firm. 😂😂😂.

I've now spoken to my doctor and she made it clear to me that it will take several more years. I am now completely withdrawing from all forums and social media. If something happens, I'll be happy about it if life doesn't go on 😀

Looking at it every day in the hope that there will be something new can only drive you crazy 🙂.

Good luck to all of you and don’t backslide 🙂

They are addicted to games and want to play, if there are only illegal offers they can only use them, and if you have the software from win2day I'm not surprised that no one wants to play there, it's so slow, paralyzing and on SitnGo Tables can wait for hours until one is full... so there is no reasonable legal poker offer in Austria... and the fact that the illegal ones only have house bots whose software is manipulated in their favor is not something you necessarily expect... If the offer were illegal, I probably wouldn't have filed this lawsuit at all. In fact, many of the plaintiffs simply feel cheated, but since the fraud can hardly be proven, they sue because of the illegality...

Which pkf and which casino?

Those who are already in the test procedures won't have to wait that long...

Those who don't even have a judgment or a title and aren't having proceedings in Malta will wait at least another 3 years.

But that's nothing new...

That's actually not surprising, otherwise they wouldn't have been offering this for years. All the negotiations have been going on in the background for a long time. It's probably just degenerated now based on the number of lawsuits.