Execution Pokerstars. Apparently, payment is not voluntary (page 24)

abelinglaekamp

Judgement

Senior Adept

Judgement

10 months ago

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The new law clearly violates EU law, as all experts and lawyers agree (except for Hambach and Hambach, casino lawyer).

So the law will not come, or Malta will have to pay billions in fines

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Judgement

abelinglaekamp

Junior Apprentice

abelinglaekamp

10 months ago

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The law is already active !!

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abelinglaekamp

Judgement

Senior Adept

Judgement

10 months ago

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I know, but it will definitely be cashed in by the EU, I'm sure of that. The mills grind slowly, with infringement proceedings.

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abelinglaekamp

Senior Adept

10 months ago

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https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7081923303195467777?updateEntityUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afs_feedUpdate%3A%28V2%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7081923303195467777%29

Please read

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max888

Junior Adept

10 months ago

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Someday we will get money.

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abelinglaekamp

max888

Senior Adept

max888

10 months ago

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Some casinos will still rebook.

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max888

abelinglaekamp

Junior Adept

abelinglaekamp

10 months ago

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rebook what?

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abelinglaekamp

max888

Senior Adept

max888

10 months ago

Sorry,umgucken

abelinglaekamp

max888

Senior Adept

max888

10 months ago

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Sorry, look around

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Speedy55

Junior Adept

Speedy55

9 months ago

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Did you get something? Or was it postponed?

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alipirhan

Senior Apprentice

9 months ago

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My case has been in Malta since the beginning of May 23 and yesterday I got the information from my lawyer that I don't even have a court date yet. The execution will take a long time against Mr Green, I think.

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fros7byte

Advanced Novice

9 months ago

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but that's not surprising, is it? bill 55 is the cause, so why should a maltese court hear about an execution now?

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Malaga

alipirhan

Senior Apprentice

alipirhan

9 months ago

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What kind of useless lawyers do you have? With a valid title, you can garnish any payment provider that Mr. Green works with, Mr. Green's bank accounts. Yes, you can even have their German website seized. You can access French, Belgian, Dutch bank accounts, etc.

Of course, it's not quite as easy as I'm making it out to be, but it's a lot easier than your lawyers are trying to tell you. It doesn't matter what kind of games Malta is playing at the moment, with the legal title you are not dependent on Malta, but can assert it across the EU and Mr. Green offers the games across the EU and has money lying around across the EU.

Yes, the lawyers in Malta want success so future recoveries will be easier, casinos will pay faster etc. But, have you ever agreed to be the guinea pig for that? Have you been informed about the numerous ways to get your money without collecting the money in Malta?

When it comes to recoveries, many lawyers treat you as a petitioner rather than as a client.

Just for information: The lawyers work on YOUR behalf, owe you an obligation to provide information and must advise you comprehensively and explain all the options. Unfortunately, many lawyers behave as if the litigation financier were their client, which is not correct. The PF has no authority over your case and the attorney represents YOU and YOUR interests only. That is the legal position. Think about whether what I have described applies to you and whether your lawyer really enlightens you in full.

I have also experienced several times that lawyers do not offer a comparison because they want to get the full amount and can also get more money themselves if there is a negotiation, even though this or that casino would actually be willing to make a comparison. I also know of cases in which the client is simply not told that the casino has already sent a settlement offer, simply because the amount of the settlement offered was too low from the lawyer's point of view. However, it is not the lawyer who has to decide that, but always the client.

What I'm trying to say is, stand on your feet instead of just passively waiting and make use of your rights.

Was hast du bitte für nutzlose Anwälte? Mit einem rechtskräftigen Titel kannst du alle Zahlungsanbieter pfänden, mit denen Mr. Green zusammenarbeitet, Bankkonten von Mr. Green. Ja, du kannst sogar deren deutsche Website pfänden lassen. Du kannst französische, belgische und holländische Bankkonten abgreifen usw.

Natürlich ist es nicht ganz so einfach wie ich es hier darstelle, aber viel einfacher als dir deine Anwälte verklickern wollen. Völlig egal was Malta zur Zeit für Spielchen spielt, mit dem rechtskräftigen Titel bist du nicht auf Malta angewiesen, sondern kannst den EU-weit geltend machen und Mr.Green bietet die Spiele EU-weit an und hat EU-weit Geld rumliegen.

Ja, die Anwälte wollen in Malta Erfolge erzielen, damit zukünftige Rückforderungen einfacher werden, die Casinos schneller bezahlen usw. Aber, hast du jemals zugestimmt, dafür das Versuchskaninchen zu sein? Wurdest du über die zahlreichen Möglichkeiten aufgeklärt an dein Geld zu kommen, ohne dabei in Malta das Geld einzutreiben?

Viele Anwälte behandeln einen bei den Rückforderungen nicht wie den Mandanten, sondern einen Bittsteller.

Nur zur Info: Die Anwälte arbeiten in DEINEM Auftrag, sind dir eine Auskunftspflicht schuldig und müssen dich vollumfänglich beraten und über alle Möglichkeiten aufklären. Viele Anwälte verhalten sich aber leider eher so als sei der Prozessfinanzierer ihr Auftraggeber, was nicht richtig ist. Der PF hat keine Befugnisse über deinen Fall und der Anwalt vertritt ausschließlich DICH und DEINE Interessen. Das ist die Rechtslage. Überleg dir einmal ob das von mir beschriebene so zutrifft und ob dich dein Anwalt auch wirklich vollumfänglich aufklärt.

Ich habe auch schon mehrfach erlebt, dass Anwälte keinen Vergleich anbieten, weil sie die volle Summe rausholen wollen und dabei auch selbst mehr Geld abgreifen können, wenn es zu einer Verhandlung kommt und das obwohl dieses oder jenes Casino eigentlich zu einem Vergleich bereit wäre. Ich kenne auch Fälle in denen es dem Mandanten einfach verschwiegen wird, dass das Casino bereits ein Vergleichsangebot gesendet hat, nur weil die angebotene Höhe des Vergleichs aus Sicht des Anwalts zu niedrig war. Das hat aber nicht der Anwalt zu entscheiden, sondern immer der Mandant.

Was ich damit sagen will: Stellt euch mal auf die Füße, anstatt nur passiv abzuwarten und macht von euren Rechten Gebrauch.

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justus99

Malaga

Senior Apprentice

Malaga

9 months ago

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He probably has the same PF as me, this PF should unfortunately be a full post.

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fros7byte

Malaga

Advanced Novice

Malaga

9 months ago

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You're right, but unfortunately that's just theory. the practice has been different so far or have your lawyers already seized bank accounts, domain etc? I do not think so. with nobody.

And I can't logically explain that lawyers don't want to make a comparison. comparisons are a treat for every lawyer and in the end there is a huge comparison fee for the lawyer. i only know lawyers who constantly compare to lower ones, almost "urging" them to finally get the case off the table and collect it.

but all i hear is that most casinos don't respond to offers at all since bill 55, some are offering around 10% with reference to the new law. if someone here is still successfully taking action against casinos and getting money since the law was passed, i would be surprised. but I like to be surprised.

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alipirhan

Senior Apprentice

9 months ago

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In Austria, for example, nothing can be pledged as far as Mr Green is concerned. I was extremely lucky that they even accepted me for the execution because the amount was so high. Other people will have to wait until 2025 to start the execution. I will now wait 2 months and ask again for updates.

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