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Hello, the bonus terms and conditions state that it is a non-sticky bonus and that real money is used first. I had deposited €100 + bonus. After a few spins I had over €1000. Since the bonus is not sticky according to the terms and conditions, I canceled it. After that, only €100 (deposit) was left in my balance. You claim that I played with bonus money first and so the money is gone. I can't do that. If it says in your terms and conditions that I play with real money first, that happens automatically. That's not true at all.
Hallo, in den Bonusbedingungen steht dass es ein nicht klebriger Bonus ist und erst das Echtgeld benutzt wird. Ich hatte 100€ + Bonus eingezahlt. Nach ein paar Spins bin ich über 1000€ gekommen. Da der Bonus laut AGBs nicht klebrig ist, habe ich ihn storniert. Danach standen nur noch 100€ (Einzahlung) in meiner Balance. Sie behaupten ich habe erst mit Bonusgeld gespielt und somit ist das Geld weg. Das kann ich gar nicht. Wenn es in Ihren AGBs steht, dass ich erst mit Echtgeld spiele, läuft das automatisch. Das stimmt doch hinten und vorne nicht.
Hello, I'm sorry to hear that you've come across this problem. Have you read the Terms and Conditions properly regarding bonuses and what you can and cannot do? Could you post a screenshot of the bonus you played with?
I have already filed an official complaint. I have read the terms and conditions. A non-sticky bonus is offered, but they act like a sticky bonus. That is not correct.
Habe schon offiziell Beschwerde eingereicht. AGBs habe ich gelesen. Es wird ein non Sticky angeboten, aber sie handeln wie bei einem Sticky Bonus. Das ist nicht korrekt.
Hello,
There is actually one thing that concerns me a bit. Based on what rule did the casino considered your bonus a sticky - as you suggested, please? Expecialy the quotaing you posted in the complaint is interesting:
"All bonuses are non-sticky. This means that you cannot request your withdrawal until the wagering requirements are fully met. Also, you start playing for real money first, then bonus money, and once the bonus money is lost, the bonus is lost too"
I would like to look at it more closely later.
We will, in any case, try to stick with your complaint process. You may rest assured it will be handled properly.
It's all totally contradictory. I've saved all the emails. First they say that I played with bonus money first, even though the terms and conditions say the other way around. Playing with bonus money first isn't possible in any casino I know of. Later they admitted that it was real money first. But what's the point if they treat it as "sticky" anyway, even though the terms and conditions say "non-sticky"
Es ist alles total widersprüchlich. Habe alle Emails gespeichert. Erst sagen sie, dass ich zuerst mit Bonusgeld gespielt habe, obwohl es in den AGBs anders herum steht. Zuerst mit Bonusgeld spielen gibt es in keinem mir bekannten Casino. Später habe sie zugegeben, daß es erst Echtgeld war. Aber wo ist der ganze Sinn, wenn sie es sowieso "Sticky" behandeln obwohl in den AGBs "non sticky" steht
It only gets really interesting when the casino actually comments on this. They advertise non-sticky and then you get deceived.
Wirklich interessant wird es erst wenn sich das Casino hier mal dazu äußern würde. Es wird für non Sticky Werbung gemacht und dann wird man getäuscht.
When the complaint moves forward and nothing is resolved, we will definitely contact the casino and see what they say and what we find out.
Hopefully everything will be cleared up.
It's all totally contradictory. I've saved all the emails. First they say that I played with bonus money first, even though the terms and conditions say the other way around. Playing with bonus money first isn't possible in any casino I know of. Later they admitted that it was real money first. But what's the point if they treat it as "sticky" anyway, even though the terms and conditions say "non-sticky"
Es ist alles total widersprüchlich. Habe alle Emails gespeichert. Erst sagen sie, dass ich zuerst mit Bonusgeld gespielt habe, obwohl es in den AGBs anders herum steht. Zuerst mit Bonusgeld spielen gibt es in keinem mir bekannten Casino. Später habe sie zugegeben, daß es erst Echtgeld war. Aber wo ist der ganze Sinn, wenn sie es sowieso "Sticky" behandeln obwohl in den AGBs "non sticky" steht
I have to admit I'm also more familiar with the variant through which the real money is usually used for bets first.
In any case, I was meant to ask you this part you mentioned in the complaint:
"All bonuses are non-sticky. This means that you cannot request your withdrawal until the wagering requirements are fully met. Also, you start playing for real money first, then bonus money, and once the bonus money is lost, the bonus is lost too" comes from the casino's terms or from the streamer, please?
I still find it quite curious that such a casino would oppose own terms so openly. I expect complaint to explain the whole context, of course.
I can see that our team is working on your complaint, and I will talk to Dominika today to find out if she learned anything more.😉
Hopefully she will be able to update you as soon as possible, even though our team has to deal with hundreds of complaints every day.
Please be patient and wait for her reply.🙏
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