Hello andandjonnyx, nice to meet you!
My name is Matej and before posting this message, I have thoroughly read through the whole complaint thread. I have checked every file uploaded as evidence, and unfortunately I came bearing bad news.
From the very beginning, both myself and Bybit have consistently asked, "Why didn't the casino request transaction history immediately after the withdrawal request was made?" The withdrawal request was made on June 30th. Yet the casino did not request transaction history via email immediately afterward. Instead, it continued to refuse the withdrawal and only requested the history after a complaint was filed. This is highly unnatural.
This is taken directly from the casino's KYC page and it is a part of their terms you have agreed to upon signing up with the account:
"The Company reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a user in paramigo.bet. We reserve the right to restrict the service, payment, or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in our sole discretion based on the legal framework."
Later on the page states three types of KYC verification that the casino does, depending on the case. It is quite possible after several denied withdrawals and after you have opened the complaint here, they changed the type of verification for a higher tier and that one possibly requires more information to be provided. Sometimes players trip checks by their activity, another time it is a random check or an order comes from some authority.
At any rate, casino has the right to request personal details, proof of address, source of wealth and ownership of the depositing methods at any point in time. This is nothing out of ordinary or unheard of.
Bybit's transaction history includes dealings with other companies, so it cannot be issued without a legitimate reason. That's why we've been persistently asking for the reason, but the casino refuses to provide an answer.
I am unsure of this statement. The casino is requesting your personal transaction history, not of Bybit's commercial one. However, with the above being said, now I would like to bring the attention to the main reason why this issue arose in the first place:
>Exporting is only possible if the history has not been deleted.
>This user has set their account to regularly delete history, so old history cannot be exported.
Now if anything, this is highly unnatural. So far, I have never seen anyone purposefully deleting their own transaction history. Especially in gambling community, where proof of wealth and proof of payment method ownership is a common request from casinos for passing the KYC and AML checks. This is also a reason why you are unable to verify yourself and have the funds released by the casino. Because of this, the dispute above has come to an impasse - you are unable to provide the proof of deposit, therefore the casino is unable to finish the KYC/AML verification process and release the funds. Casino is unable to skip this step as the verification process is given by the government body and/or legal authorities and must be adhered to by the letter. You are unable to provide the required payment method statement because you have deleted the history, and it seems the payment provider is also unwilling (or unable) to cooperate.
Due to the aforementioned reasons, this complaint will now be rejected. Thank you for your understanding, and I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. To avoid this problem in the future, I would strongly recommend changing the account settings to not deleting the payment history, or changing the payment provider altogether.
Hello andandjonnyx, nice to meet you!
My name is Matej and before posting this message, I have thoroughly read through the whole complaint thread. I have checked every file uploaded as evidence, and unfortunately I came bearing bad news.
From the very beginning, both myself and Bybit have consistently asked, "Why didn't the casino request transaction history immediately after the withdrawal request was made?" The withdrawal request was made on June 30th. Yet the casino did not request transaction history via email immediately afterward. Instead, it continued to refuse the withdrawal and only requested the history after a complaint was filed. This is highly unnatural.
This is taken directly from the casino's KYC page and it is a part of their terms you have agreed to upon signing up with the account:
"The Company reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a user in paramigo.bet. We reserve the right to restrict the service, payment, or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in our sole discretion based on the legal framework."
Later on the page states three types of KYC verification that the casino does, depending on the case. It is quite possible after several denied withdrawals and after you have opened the complaint here, they changed the type of verification for a higher tier and that one possibly requires more information to be provided. Sometimes players trip checks by their activity, another time it is a random check or an order comes from some authority.
At any rate, casino has the right to request personal details, proof of address, source of wealth and ownership of the depositing methods at any point in time. This is nothing out of ordinary or unheard of.
Bybit's transaction history includes dealings with other companies, so it cannot be issued without a legitimate reason. That's why we've been persistently asking for the reason, but the casino refuses to provide an answer.
I am unsure of this statement. The casino is requesting your personal transaction history, not of Bybit's commercial one. However, with the above being said, now I would like to bring the attention to the main reason why this issue arose in the first place:
>Exporting is only possible if the history has not been deleted.
>This user has set their account to regularly delete history, so old history cannot be exported.
Now if anything, this is highly unnatural. So far, I have never seen anyone purposefully deleting their own transaction history. Especially in gambling community, where proof of wealth and proof of payment method ownership is a common request from casinos for passing the KYC and AML checks. This is also a reason why you are unable to verify yourself and have the funds released by the casino. Because of this, the dispute above has come to an impasse - you are unable to provide the proof of deposit, therefore the casino is unable to finish the KYC/AML verification process and release the funds. Casino is unable to skip this step as the verification process is given by the government body and/or legal authorities and must be adhered to by the letter. You are unable to provide the required payment method statement because you have deleted the history, and it seems the payment provider is also unwilling (or unable) to cooperate.
Due to the aforementioned reasons, this complaint will now be rejected. Thank you for your understanding, and I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. To avoid this problem in the future, I would strongly recommend changing the account settings to not deleting the payment history, or changing the payment provider altogether.