Good afternoon,
I have now read your explanation carefully, and I believe there are still several important contradictions that need to be addressed.
First, regarding the €100 withdrawal: you state that the withdrawal was cancelled because I used the funds for further gameplay before it could be processed.
However, I have a screenshot showing that the €100 withdrawal was cancelled by the casino/system. I will provide this evidence to Casino Guru.
More importantly, your explanation does not address the fundamental issue.
After you confiscated approximately €4,500 and reduced my balance to €700 based on the maximum cashout rule, I attempted to withdraw the remaining €700.
At that point, I was told that I had two options: either pay a 20% fee or continue wagering another €87.
You now confirm that this was indeed the situation.
So I have a very simple question:
Why would I voluntarily continue gambling with €700 when €700 was already the maximum amount I was allowed to cash out?
If I had continued playing and won another €500, €1,000 or even €5,000, I still could not withdraw more than €700 because of your maximum cashout rule.
Therefore, once the €700 maximum cashout had been applied, continuing to gamble could only put my withdrawable money at risk. There was no realistic upside for me.
I was not continuing to gamble because I wanted to play. I was trying to fulfil an additional condition imposed by the casino in order to access money that was already available in my balance.
There is another important point that you continue to avoid answering:
Are you treating the €700 as a new deposit, or are you referring to my original €70 deposit?
My original €70 deposit had already been completely lost before I activated the €140 bonus. I then completed the full €140 × 40 wagering requirement.
So what exactly is the basis for saying that I still had to wager my original deposit?
The €700 was not a new deposit. It was the remaining balance after you had already applied the €700 maximum cashout rule.
And there is another issue that needs to be explained.
You state that the €100 withdrawal was cancelled because I used the funds for gameplay. But I have evidence showing the cancellation from your side.
You also state that the €100 ultimately withheld from my €600 balance was a 20% fee.
These two explanations need to be reconciled.
If the €100 withdrawal was cancelled because I supposedly used the funds for gameplay, then why does the casino now describe another €100 deduction as a 20% withdrawal fee?
And why was I told that I could satisfy the requirement by wagering another €87 instead of paying the 20% fee, only for another €100 to subsequently disappear?
This is exactly why I have asked Casino Guru to investigate the complete sequence rather than looking at each event separately.
I accepted the initial €4,500 confiscation, even though I strongly disagreed with it.
What I am questioning is what happened afterwards:
€5,200 balance
→ approximately €4,500 confiscated
→ €700 remaining
→ told to either pay 20% or wager another €87
→ balance reduced to approximately €600
→ only €500 ultimately paid out.
At every stage, I was trying to withdraw the money that remained after your maximum cashout rule had already been applied.
I have provided screenshots and evidence of the relevant events, including the cancellation of the €100 withdrawal.
I therefore ask you to stop giving general explanations of your terms and answer these specific questions directly.
I believe Casino Guru should also examine the screenshots and determine whether your current explanation is consistent with what actually happened in my account.
Good afternoon,
I have now read your explanation carefully, and I believe there are still several important contradictions that need to be addressed.
First, regarding the €100 withdrawal: you state that the withdrawal was cancelled because I used the funds for further gameplay before it could be processed.
However, I have a screenshot showing that the €100 withdrawal was cancelled by the casino/system. I will provide this evidence to Casino Guru.
More importantly, your explanation does not address the fundamental issue.
After you confiscated approximately €4,500 and reduced my balance to €700 based on the maximum cashout rule, I attempted to withdraw the remaining €700.
At that point, I was told that I had two options: either pay a 20% fee or continue wagering another €87.
You now confirm that this was indeed the situation.
So I have a very simple question:
Why would I voluntarily continue gambling with €700 when €700 was already the maximum amount I was allowed to cash out?
If I had continued playing and won another €500, €1,000 or even €5,000, I still could not withdraw more than €700 because of your maximum cashout rule.
Therefore, once the €700 maximum cashout had been applied, continuing to gamble could only put my withdrawable money at risk. There was no realistic upside for me.
I was not continuing to gamble because I wanted to play. I was trying to fulfil an additional condition imposed by the casino in order to access money that was already available in my balance.
There is another important point that you continue to avoid answering:
Are you treating the €700 as a new deposit, or are you referring to my original €70 deposit?
My original €70 deposit had already been completely lost before I activated the €140 bonus. I then completed the full €140 × 40 wagering requirement.
So what exactly is the basis for saying that I still had to wager my original deposit?
The €700 was not a new deposit. It was the remaining balance after you had already applied the €700 maximum cashout rule.
And there is another issue that needs to be explained.
You state that the €100 withdrawal was cancelled because I used the funds for gameplay. But I have evidence showing the cancellation from your side.
You also state that the €100 ultimately withheld from my €600 balance was a 20% fee.
These two explanations need to be reconciled.
If the €100 withdrawal was cancelled because I supposedly used the funds for gameplay, then why does the casino now describe another €100 deduction as a 20% withdrawal fee?
And why was I told that I could satisfy the requirement by wagering another €87 instead of paying the 20% fee, only for another €100 to subsequently disappear?
This is exactly why I have asked Casino Guru to investigate the complete sequence rather than looking at each event separately.
I accepted the initial €4,500 confiscation, even though I strongly disagreed with it.
What I am questioning is what happened afterwards:
€5,200 balance
→ approximately €4,500 confiscated
→ €700 remaining
→ told to either pay 20% or wager another €87
→ balance reduced to approximately €600
→ only €500 ultimately paid out.
At every stage, I was trying to withdraw the money that remained after your maximum cashout rule had already been applied.
I have provided screenshots and evidence of the relevant events, including the cancellation of the €100 withdrawal.
I therefore ask you to stop giving general explanations of your terms and answer these specific questions directly.
I believe Casino Guru should also examine the screenshots and determine whether your current explanation is consistent with what actually happened in my account.