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Mad Money Casino - Player has been accused of opening multiple accounts.

Amount: €1,400

Mad Money Casino
Safety Index:Below average
Submitted: 09 Mar 2021 | Case closed : 23 Apr 2021
Case closed Our verdict

Unjustified complaint

REJECTED

Case summary

3 years ago

The player from Germany has been accused of opening multiple accounts. Admittedly, a friend has an account in the same casino. The complaint was rejected as the player breached the casino terms.

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3 years ago
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Good afternoon dear community,


I have problems with the payout at the MadMoneyCasino .. I got the casino recommended by my friend who also gave me the code for a bonus in this casino (CASINOFAMILYTWITCH) this code is.


My girlfriend lives in the same building as me but not the same front door.


With my first deposit of 20 euros I won around 1400 euros and the casino does not want to pay me the money and after a week waiting for the payout has blocked my account because of alleged double accounts.


They made me wait a week so that I could withdraw my payment (I assume) and since I didn't do that, we accused you of having a double account.


My account was verified during the week that I was waiting for the payout and when I asked the support I was told that my friend's account also had to be verified, i.e. a KYC verification with selfie and the whole program.


Both accounts are verified (requirement for a payout) is the verification of the account.


My bonus and the whole thing was of course not dredged, and no stake was higher than two euros.


Meanwhile I asked the support during the payout period how long it would take to accept the payout because I want to pay in again and don't want to have an outstanding payout in the profile before I pay ... I was told I can pay in again without hesitation & the payout was not mixed with my deposit if the payout is canceled.


I urgently ask for help, I need the money because the shit Corona time cost me enough money !!!


I ask for help, if you need more information then please write to me !!


With best regards

Sk3jc1k

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3 years ago

Dear sk3jc1k93,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely. Do you and your friend share any of the following: household or email address, telephone number, same payment account number, IP, or device?

I have checked general terms and conditions, and this is what I found https://www.madmoneycasino.com/en/static-texts/terms-and-conditions:


"Bonuses can be received once per person (Customer), per household, per address, per mobile phone, per shared computer and per shared IP address. Risk-free bets on any games or services do not count toward the wagering requirements. Winnings from free spins are added to the real money balance."


If there’s any relevant communication, please forward it to petronela.k@casino.guru.

I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.

Best regards,

Petronela

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3 years ago

Dear sk3jc1k93,

We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to provide the required information in the given time frame, we will reject your complaint.

 

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3 years ago
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Do you and your friend share any of the following: household or email address, phone number, same payment account number, IP address, or device?


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Hello, thanks for your quick answer and a late answer on my part ... So we don't share any of the things listed above ... The only thing you could add is that we don't have our own internet line, but the landlord of the The house has wifi for the tenants in the house because there is no other way here.


We ask for help = (

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3 years ago

Thank you very much, sk3jc1k93, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Nick who will be at your assistance. I wish you best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.

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3 years ago

I would like to ask Mad Money Casino to join us and help us resolve the player's issue.

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3 years ago

Hi, thank you for the opportunity to address this in a public forum. The player was notified of having a matching duplicate IP. He is claiming here that the landlord provides internet for the house. This would give a similar IP but not an exact match. Additionally, both accounts share the same Password which is more evidence of the same person creating multiple accounts.


Our terms and conditions clearly state 1 account per person, household or where devices are shared (School, workplaces, public libraries, etc) and are listed below for reference.


Both accounts also claimed a Welcome Bonus which is a violation when 1 person or a person with duplicate IP's creates multiple accounts to abuse bonus offers.


Our risk team took ample time to fully research and consider all possibilities, situations and additional evidence/personal documentation of both players. The player did admit to knowing the person on the 2nd account, shares an IP with this person and uses the same password. This is overwhelming evidence that the two accounts are related and violate multiple terms and conditions of our site resulting in closure of the duplicate account and forfeiture of the winnings.


He was also referred to the specific sections of our terms which were violated:


4.5 Your Account must be registered in Your own, correct, name and personal details and it shall only be issued once for You and not duplicated through any other person, family, household, address (postal or IP), email address, Access Device or any environment where Access Devices are shared (e.g. schools, workplaces, public libraries etc) and/or account in respect of the Services. Any other accounts which You open with us, or which are beneficially owned by You in relation to the Services shall be "Duplicate Accounts". We may close any Duplicate Account (but shall not be obliged to do so). If we close a Duplicate Account:


4.5.1 all bonuses, free bets and winnings accrued from such bonuses and free bets obtained using that Duplicate Account will be void and forfeited by You; we may, at our entire discretion, void all winnings and refund all deposits (less amounts in respect of void winnings). If we close a Duplicate Account:


4.5.1 all bonuses, free bets and winnings accrued from such bonuses and free bets obtained using that Duplicate Account will be void and forfeited by You;


4.5.2 we may, at our entire discretion, void all winnings and deposits (less amounts in respect of void winnings) made in respect of that Duplicate Account and, to the extent not recovered by us from the relevant Duplicate Account, any amounts to be refunded to us by You in respect of a Duplicate Account may be recovered by us directly from any other of Your Accounts (including any other Duplicate Account);  made in respect of that Duplicate Account and, to the extent not recovered by us from the relevant Duplicate Account, any amounts to be refunded to us by You in respect of a Duplicate Account may be recovered by us directly from any other of Your Accounts (including any other Duplicate Account); 

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3 years ago
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Good day,


Your risk team has said as soon as all documents have been submitted in full you will have a look and if everything fits there will be no problems with the payout, and both accounts have the same passwords because every account, whether Facebook or Instagram, has the same password. As I said, we are both always connected to the same WLAN and if you like we can also send a picture of the two of us with an identity card as proof that we are dealing with two different people.


It is a mess on your part to have an account blocked after we both have passed the KYC verification.


I would like to have the money paid out and then you can block my account.


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3 years ago
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Hello, I replied to MadMoneyCasino's answer but unfortunately nothing is displayed.

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3 years ago
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good day,


So that with the password is just that we have the same password everywhere, no matter if casinos Facebook or Instagram, so it is also how they write the same password for both accounts. The supporter from your casino wrote if we both pass a successful KYC verification with selfie and ID in hand, there should be no problems with the payout. (We have uploaded everything and both accounts have been confirmed)


What I still have to say is that my account was supposed to be the multi-account that I can safely deposit again if there were problems with the withdrawal, my deposit with the bonus will not be with the money that is rejected due to the cancellation of a Mixed payouts so I was actually invited to pay in again on your part.


We can both stand next door with an identity card in hand and send you a selfie so that you can be sure that it is not a multi-account.


I want to have the money paid out to me or let's find a way.


This way you have chosen as a casino is not okay, just block your account and confiscate the money.


With best regards



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3 years ago

Dear Mad Money Casino,

Are the 2 accounts share also the same registration information? Is it true that they have been both verified? I would like to ask if you could send me information about those 2 accounts. Please send it to nikolas.b@casino.guru. Thank you in advance.

Best regards,

Nick

Casino.guru

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3 years ago

Emailed you few days ago with the additional info you requested.

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3 years ago
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Good morning, I wanted to know how it looks with the money I have won? Easter is coming and I depend on the money.


Wish you a happy Easter !!

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3 years ago

Could you please advise if any of the 2 accounts are still active? Are you able to login or play in any of them?

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3 years ago
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Unfortunately, my account was disabled after I have this case opened here 🙁


file


Wish you a Happy Easter & stay healthy!


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3 years ago

The original account remains open and accessible while the duplicate account was closed. This follows our Terms and Conditions in which any duplicate accounts will be closed.


Date of closure was March 5th. This complaint was started March 9th. So contrary to what the player just claimed, it was closed before this complaint was filed, not afterwards. You should have the account closure timestamp in the screenshots that were emailed to you. If not, I can provide them.

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3 years ago
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Hello, yes you are absolutely right, I am sorry for the false statement of my mistake. My account was closed after I contacted the CasinoFamillyTwitch group about my withdrawal because it took almost a week for something to happen regarding the withdrawal.


Of course, nobody should forget that I was offered to deposit again during my withdrawal phase in support.


I insist on my payout, that is money that I am entitled to and that I have invested from my own pocket.


greetings

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3 years ago
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Hello, I wanted to ask what it looks like? I depend on the money and need the money I am entitled to !!


Ask the Casino.Guru team to help me!


greetings

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3 years ago

Dear sk3jc1k93,

After taking into consideration every aspect of the case there is probably no possibility to retrieve your winnings. The casino's terms clearly states that you can't have duplicate accounts. I undersntad that sharing IP with someone else may not seem as a big issue but there were a few other matching information with you and the other account. Sometimes this system is automated and once your account is suspended for fraud it remains that way. Could you please advise if you have received a deposit refund from the blocked account?

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No, I have never received a refund of the deposit.

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A refund of the original deposit of 20 euro was not issued to the player as expenses to the casino from the gameplay from the duplicate account exceeded the original deposit. Additionally, the player earned loyalty points, purchased free spins and used these free spins which accounted for additional expenses in GGR. Due to the player creating a duplicate account, we incurred fees and costs from gaming providers which exceeded his deposit, therefore no refund of the deposit was issued.

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I wanted to have mentioned again that we are not a multi-account !!! We can prove the whole thing! There are two households with two different apartments and two different people! The accounts have both been verified so I don't know where the problem is to pay me the money!


I think it is a huge mess to a player who is suspected of having a double account to offer further deposits with a bonus after a request for the withdrawal!


Dear Casino.Guru Team, did you get the proof that it is a double account? I can prove to you that we are two different people from two different households!


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3 years ago

Dear sk3jc1k93,

Yes, we received proof from casino showing that the 2 accounts, which belongs to 2 different person, have the same address and password to login into casino. The problem with that is not that the casino wouldn't believe that there are 2 different person. It's stated in their terms that it is forbidden to make 2 accounts from the same household (address) or same IP or shared IP. This term was unfortunately breached by you and the other player too that's why was the duplicated closed.

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Okay and the @MadMoneyCasino can not pay out at least part of it out of goodwill ??


I would be very happy and read the terms and conditions next time

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That is only up to casino however we can't force them to do as they were only acting by their terms and conditions and there is no relevant reason to punish them. I would like to ask Mad Money Casino to respond to the player last post. The complaint will be in any case closed as rejected as the player breached the casino's term.

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3 years ago

The case can be closed. Thank you.

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3 years ago

The complaint will be now closed as rejected as the player's breached the casino terms.

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