truth about streamers (page 3)

Exactly as SunsetGaze wrote. Usually streamers have a cut of what they win and I think it would be unrealistic for them to have as high bets as they do when they play on their streams. It's mostly money that the casino offers them as part of a partnership and it's basically just marketing and visibility for the casino. I think you have to look at these things objectively and not get sucked into playing in a casino just because you see a streamer winning a lot of money. Most of the time it's a "trap".

Lol I know. I was being sarcastic.....Are casignoguru that different from streamers though regarding funding?

Oh, right, I missed that a bit. 😁

Anyway, I think we and streamers are very different in this area. At least in the fact that we don't promote casinos as streamers, but we try to give as much useful information about them as possible, so that players can decide if it's worth spending their money in one if they decide to play.  

I must be a bit confused. I’ve received promotion emails from casinoguru telling me which ‘safe’ casinos to sign up to? Don’t you get kick backs from this?

We never send e-mails telling the players which casinos are safe and where they should sign up. I'm aware we send no deposit bonus e-mails to those who willingly subscribe for it. We have also our own internal rule saying that we won't send no deposit bonuses for casinos that have low safety index on our website. Even though the deposits are free and there's nothing to lose.

Despite our past research that shows that most of players like to play with no deposit bonuses in when they're aware the casino is bad, we don't want to make players to register in casinos that are terrible according to us.

Does anyone know how Stake and the people around him are doing? For example Roshtein, until recently Vondice and Deuceace.

Roshtein was/is a stake streamer right? Nowadays there are so many I have no idea, stake even created a streaming platform, so you can tell the streamers are doing quite well 😂 I suppose when a streamer stops working for a casino it's because the casino breaks the deal because it's not profitable (I doubt any streamer knocks the deal first or voluntarily)

Hi, I think SunsetGaze gave you a good answer. However, what did you think about how the people around the casino are doing? I don't have much information about streamers, but sometimes I used to watch it for a while. Do they still have any agreements with them or have some already left the casino? I am probably of the same opinion that such streamers will probably leave when the casino terminates the contract with them and not the other way around. So if you were interested, you could develop it a bit. 🙂

Hi, I meant it more to see if anyone has more insight into how it works. If they are spinning money there, what they get for cooperation and after some wager, the rest is theirs. Sometimes it almost goes to my head when I see them playing slot machines for 10 hours a day. SunsetGaze certainly gave me some insight into that.

I could also contribute a little. It's quite simple, many casinos simply give streamers free funds, so the winnings are not paid out and it's just a matter of arousing interest, such a streamer usually has some kind of affiliate contract, which an ordinary player can also have and receives a percentage of losses or deposits of players who used his link.

It is always wise to monitor the initial balance of the account and consider whether the person is "betting credible" amounts of money.

Another indicator: Does such a person have a bunch of links to bonuses or simply to casinos under the clip?

Well, why? 🙂 Because he's doing advertising and he doesn't want to do it for free

But we live in a world where it's completely natural for us to exaggerate, exaggerate and sell an impression that has nothing to do with reality, and those not-so-objective streamers are somewhere in between.

That's how I see it.

They are given balances to play. Let's say: a streamer gets a 100k balance to play on a weekly basis, if a profit is made with that balance, the streamer can take a cut (5, 10%, I don't know) of the net profit or the streamer can be given exclusive deposit bonuses with more flexible rules (no max bet, no forbidden games, etc).

I believe these are the schemes they operate, on both cases, the streamer has a huge edge, on the first one it's risk free gambling, on the second case the streamer or content creator has to put real money first, but still has an important edge over the casino in exchange for bringing users and turnover, I suppose that hedges the risks of offering exclusive bonuses to the streamer. That's what I meant when I said they don't show how real gambling looks like, not even super high VIP level gamblers get that sort of treatment on any casino.

Genuine question here, how does Casinoguru make money then?

I thought you affiliated with a number of casinos you have on your site but 'do not promote'.

I thought you get a rev share of players signing up through your site and a portion of players losses per week/month?

Minus making money from streaming fake balances, do you not make money exactly the same way as streamers?

Genuinely interested in the answer.

Just tried to ask a genuine question here about the differences between streamers and casino guru money making wise and was sent to a moderator?

I'm not really sure but I think casino guru only profit from referrals, streamers profit from referrals and exclusive deals with a casino (playing with sponsored balances or being given exclusive bonuses), guru can't do the last two, only referrals. While you browse for bonuses and casino reviews, you might click a link to visit them and possibly register, you will eventually play there and that's how guru profits I believe. Ads could be another way, but here there are no ads.

Yes, some "review" sites do this in a shady way (selling positive reviews), that's another way for a review site to profit too: selling positive reviews (on top of referrals), guru doing this is not possible simply because this is not exclusively a review site, it's a forum and user reviews are a thing: if you see a review you consider misleading, you can make your own review and see what others think too, in the review sites that sell their opinion you can't do that at all because there is no community, just an audience. If I find a casino rating here I consider misleading I would point that out on the very dedicated thread for that casino.

And referrals can be tricky too: some casinos not only scam users, they also scam referrals by not honoring the referral programs 😂 so it's not a guaranteed profit anyways, you never know

Hi, sometimes posts like this are on review because the system itself says they should be.

As for your question, both Radka and Daniel have provided answers to this in the past and I would summarize it as follows:

We created the biggest list of casino reviews in the world and we regularly update this list to make sure that the ratings are still valid.

We recommend different top casinos to players based on where they come from, because for example a casino that is great for Ireland players doesn't need to be too good for players in Argentina etc. So we try to create a unique top casinos list for every country. When players go to play to these casinos and eventually lose, we get a commission from it.

We never tell the players to play in a casino, because you become rich, we actually say that you eventually lose, but we also know there are people who simply love casino games. We believe that it's better for those players to play in decent casinos who will pay the winnings in case the player is simply lucky instead of making stupid excuses and voiding the winnings. That's why Casino Guru was created - to provide honest online casino reviews.

The income we have also enables us to do a lot of activities that we don't get paid for - for example we have the Complaints resolution center where we help players to get their winnings from casinos. We don't take any commission for it so when the player gets paid, they get 100% of the amount. We also have an academy for people who'd like to start their carrier in online casinos and even for online casinos workers who'd like to improve in their job.

We also invest into Global Self Exclusion initiative. The goal is to create a tool that would allow players to self-exclude in all casinos in the world (we could use our large casino database for it).

It is really that simple - we get commissions, though I'm personally convinced the process is fair and serves the main principle we hold the most important - to be fair and square - with anyone.

I hope I answered your question properly. 🙂

Not really....So how do you make money?

By referrals, it really is that simple

I believe it is written there.

"We recommend different top casinos to players based on where they come from, because for example a casino that is great for Ireland players doesn't need to be too good for players in Argentina etc. So we try to create a unique top casinos list for every country. When players go to play to these casinos and eventually lose, we get a commission from it."

Yet we aim to remind all that playing in casinos usually results in losses, and should only serve for fun. Also, the amount of money we get back to support players is quite astonishing. Imagine funding just the complaint Team alone - assembled from 17 specialists working more than 8 hours per day...

This is just a small part, by the way...

So, like streamers, you need players to loose to make money?

I know where this is going. 🙂

Consider this: We get a commission when someone willingly deposits in casinos with a good safety index and then loses. We do not promote or actively ask players to play, we do not record winning streaks to make people believe this casino is the best place to get richer.

As far as I can tell, streamers usually don't give a damn where they lure the players and also gain profit just for deposit or registration, most often using very suspicious funds to be able to win really big. Did you know? Luckily, there are some honest streamers out there.