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Question about Gambling websites with Curaçao license using incorrect Merchant Category code (page 111)

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2 years ago
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Lottie48
1 year ago

Are they scamming though really? I understand it’s wrong to miscode and many casinos do this and refuse withdrawals etc but santeda are verified and pay withdrawals out same day.


you played there, lost and now want the money back. You knew of the risk when depositing. Doesn’t seem right this. If you won you wouldn’t be complaining about miscoding

Anonymized641
1 year ago

Exactly the same answer I got.


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1 year ago

Hello,

It is a criminal offense in some countries to falsify the true reason for the transaction by referring to false coding.

The player usually doesn't notice anything because it happens in the background. My bank has blocked the card three times and demanded an explanation because of transactions with dubious companies across the continent. The player is drawn into the money laundering quagmire, even though he only wanted to spend money on online gambling. Furthermore, this payment processing opens the door to money laundering and illegal funds can be laundered.

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Tiekefnntn
1 year ago

Fair comment.

However, if they act unscrupulously (possibly illegally) in regard of miscoding, using 3rd party processors and circumventing Gamstop etc. how can you possibly believe that you'll get a fair crack at the whip when it comes to their games? Where does their bending of the rules stop?

As for payouts, most of the time payouts yes, although they'll leave you enough time to cancel the withdrawal, and all of a sudden need verification of a card you've used once. All to slow the process down to allow the no doubt compulsive gamblers time to think they can win more and blow the lot. Same day? Nonsense.

Anyway everyone's entitled to their opinion...

1 year ago

Exactly the same answer I got.


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1 year ago

Exactly the same answer.

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1 year ago

If you're going to do a chargeback anyway, the ONLY chance you'll get money is to LIE to the bank. If you are honest, you won't get any money. However, I do not advise you to lie, but also do not waste time being honest and trying to get money that way. The bank sucks completely. Mastercard and Visa don't care either. So it is only for these casinos to continue accepting money. But remember one thing, the Swedish banks have started denying money that comes from these casinos. So you only play at a loss.. you can only send money but not receive

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Frewcrew24
1 year ago

I can 100% see it from both sides. I have been scammed myself by many names on this thread but none from any santeda casino (rolletto, goldenbet etc) they always paid my withdrawals and within 24 hours.

1 year ago

My problem is I have money in my account & they suspended me and they never sent me any of my money back. Even after contacting CEG they sided with the casino, I just want my money back or at least my deposits

1 year ago

To be honest I don’t even know if any of these casinos are fair play. Coming to think about it, I’ve never really seen massive wins. They only allow you to draw out a certain amount per day/week too

xxkjxx
1 year ago

Oh that’s completely different then. Who are the merchants?

xxkjxx
1 year ago

That's what the bank said to me even though I had gambiling blocks on my card and international payment blocks on card, but the reality is if the gaming site is using misscodes and fake merchants to override the banks it's also the banks responsiblility to have extra security in place to counter act these fraudulent tactics it just means no one is safe

Tiekefnntn
1 year ago

WINTERMDSE, the other ones I’ve managed to chargeback.

xxkjxx
1 year ago

They've stopped replying to me

jimbrooke86
1 year ago

Same, once I sent off my bank card details and statements, they just stopped replying. Someone in the thread got a refund from them so I was optimistic something good would come out of it, but nothing. Now I’m at a loss

Loohis
1 year ago

I found Mydates is dota2store.online


They don’t bother replying though

1 year ago

Regarding the casinos’ payment policy, I can say:


I won €20,000 in a Curacao casino listed here and got paid out within 3 hours.

Won 2300 euros in another Curacao casino and didn't receive a cent because of alleged T&C violation.

I've had similar experiences in casinos with MGA licenses. In general, you can say there are black sheep everywhere, which is why it's important to report the black sheep here.

I'm done with gambling, I've lost bank accounts thanks to the operators' payment methods and I'm about to go to court for money laundering...


They are criminals, they break laws all over the world and the player is the one who gets screwed.


Be sure to remember the following sentence:

You win more in the end if you don't play!

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Make2002
1 year ago

It was a bank from Germany, and the reason for the report was a provider that has been mentioned here several times for the purpose of the chargeback. The bank filed a report, and after almost a year I received a letter from the police. I did not give any information to the police. I cannot comment further because of the pending proceedings.


The laws in Germany regarding money laundering are more on the side of the banks. The banks say they know nothing and get away with it, they allegedly report providers with false MCC but they still process payments, after 3 years!

For me, the card payer is the one who is at fault, the change is happening in the background, it is not written anywhere. I only noticed this process when the bank asked me why I was using telephone services in Nigeria



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Katze1337
1 year ago

That’s ridiculous you’re getting penalised for something that isn’t your fault. You know it’s their fault, it’s just proving it. You haven’t laundered any money, just explain to them what’s happened. I’ve stopped gambling as well tbh, in the UK I’m banned on Gamstop which stops me signing up to any casino in the UK. Then randomly one day I found these non Gamstop ones when I was feeling an urge then I got myself into a mess. Lost loads of money, that can’t get given back. There should be no such things as these offshore casinos. Targeting vulnerable people

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