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New German online gambling legislation (6 weeks later ..)

3 years ago by DrSimonCem
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3 years ago

It's been 6 weeks since the second amendment of the year and the so-called 'first nationwide uniform online gaming legislation'


Time to awaken: My review:

(first part)


after initial irritation

Interpret yourself

my otherwise quite real fixated constellation of ideas

uprooting prophetic

a change to ..


.. AWAKE ...


I looked around .. I was at home ..

Yes, that was Nuremberg.

A lousy version, however

as part of Schleswig-Holstein ...


not with good reason,

but with REALLY good speeches ..

Well you know ...

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3 years ago

Is it time for a review on my part?


part two

The unclear legal situation, which has always prevailed not only in our country, is forcing casinos that operate internationally via the Internet to be based in tax havens.

As if that's not enough

becomes in a way

'Really paranoid self-slander' to be sure of even serious and well-intentioned gambling offerers

Of the estimated 3 top law firms in the field with Curaçao approval, prefer the complete package:

Mailbox company +

Straw man performance +

Owner legend

All inclusive internet presence etc.

offered.

SAFE IS SAFE.

It's easy to understand, who wants to do everything themselves and also risk making mistakes in law and, best of all, in their own name

including own capital liability in case of emergency ..



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3 years ago

THEREFORE I am not worried. If a casino wants to give an account of exactly German law, you are welcome to do so.

As long as it is not, and that's where I see the big problem, such big disadvantages for me as a German player, the whole provider is blocked in rows and others are changed in such a way that it is no longer fun.

As an example 1 € bet limit.

That excludes games that didn't go well anyway.

And games that could do with less are completely blocked so far.

With the few remaining, no result is to be expected, the feeling of profit and actually profits generated.

Before that, with some at least a € 10 stake, halfway decent profits were possible.

I'll go straight to a page without any restrictions.

This gives many a huge competitive disadvantage that will be hard to swallow, I suspect ..


Since a lot is happening in the new nationwide

SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN .. 🙂

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DrSimonCem
3 years ago

The basic idea of the Law and the Oasis List makes sense but they haven't thought through. If I get banned because I have reached the 1000 euro limit, I can still continue outside. And in land casinos there is no 1 euro limit on the roulette table.

The law and Oasis only apply to providers with a German license. Everyone else will find their way to us.

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3 years ago

We want to hope so ..!

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3 years ago

Read yesterday ..

"Online casino obliged by a German court to return 130,000 euros for non-compliance with the new German gaming law .."


What's going on there?

It's a bit unfair .. If the player had won .. I doubt whether she would have been obliged to return the winnings

I am pure chic.


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Frankey
3 years ago

I kind of feel like many casinos that don't have the license have some issues with sending money to German players. I believe that you'll probably need to use crypto only in order to play in unlicensed casinos 😕

Daniel
3 years ago

Some only do this with crypto to be on the safe side. What also works pretty well are digital walets like Mifinity, Skrill or Neteller.

With the Paysafecard account, you can now also withdraw money. There you can.


I also believe that there will only be a few deposit and withdrawal methods for German players in the future.

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Daniel
3 years ago

Yes, of course, to prevent money laundering. The new rules make it almost impossible for players to modest their winnings. Hidden bonus rules or something. The operator's capital must be insured for at least € 10,000,000. I doubt whether crypto will catch on with us. At least nothing right away. Paying cash or online is still some nono for many

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Frankey
3 years ago

And the government doesn't like crypto at all. Theoretically, the tax office can use your crypto profits as taxes if you did not have them in your wallet as crypto for at least 1 year.

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DrSimonCem
3 years ago

You read that wrong. In Austria, gambling was just as illegal as it was here. A German casino had specifically attracted Easter eggs and told them everything is good, you are protected by German law, etc. A player found the lawyer removed and the 130,000 sins the judgment from a few days ago. Has nothing to do with the new law

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Frankey
3 years ago

I mean the article:

" LAWYERS

SPECIALIST LAWYERS

UNAUTHORIZED ONLINE GAME OF GAME: NATIONWIDE FIRST CONDUCT OF AN ONLINE CASINO AFTER ORAL HALES - LAND COURT GIESSEN CONVERSED "CASINOCLUB" FOR REPAYMENT OF PLAYED AMOUNTS



UNAUTHORIZED ONLINE GAME OF GAME: NATIONWIDE FIRST CONDUCT OF AN ONLINE CASINO AFTER ORAL HALES - LAND COURT GIESSEN CONDUCTS "CASINOCLUB" TO REPAYMENT OF PLAYED AMOUNTS

Nationwide first conviction of an online casino after an oral hearing!

The Steinrücke law firm, which specializes in online gaming, among other things. Sausen has brought about a novelty in a further procedure in connection with the reclamation of losses in unauthorized online gambling: For the first time in Germany, an online casino was sentenced to repay lost amounts after an oral hearing.

"This is a milestone and shows that the legal regulations to combat illegal online gambling in Germany are taken seriously by the courts," say the lawyers at the Steinrücke Sausen law firm.

The district court of Giessen sentenced the online casino provider "Martingale Malta 2 Ltd." with a judgment of 25.02.2021 to repay all amounts that the plaintiff had lost in the online casino "CasinoClub" there. "

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3 years ago

There are several lawsuits from Austrian lawyers against German casinos who hope that many Austrians will get in touch. Class action lawsuits are allowed there, which is then only a matter of form. And then an amount is agreed. Here in Germany you would be alone and would have to tell the court how long you played. As soon as you leave the room, the tax office will arrest you. You now know when you played.

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3 years ago

In Germany there is also a lawsuit against the casinos, but the tax office will also contact them.

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3 years ago

Guys, I'm wondering, where do you play now since the new law was introduced? Do you prefer casinos with the German license?

3 years ago

I would not say that..

Still, most of the people I play with have such a license. A good example is MrVegas .. At first I was very disappointed because almost all good games were banned.

In the meantime, most of them go again .. It was exactly the same with Slothunter.

I'm slowly wondering how they do it with the license. W.

I don't need to look far to find various violations!

Also good are: Cadoola, MrBet ...

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Daniel
3 years ago

There are still casinos where you can play from Germany. Those with a German license just get boring because you can only play slots and sports betting. You won't get very far with the € 1 per spin rule. Many casinos have reduced their range of slots. It doesn't do much to play megaways games with € 1. I think that there will soon be easing again when the tax office notices what is missing from players who prefer to play elsewhere. I also think the providers will find ways to let players from Germany play without a German license. VPN or something similar

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Frankey
3 years ago

I agree it's just a matter of time. The German players won't stick exclusively to the casinos with German license. Especially considering all the obstacles and limitations they face there.

Daniel
3 years ago

Or the land casinos expand. I mean the right casinos not the gambling halls. Germany has 16 federal states. They can each decide for themselves how many casinos are to be opened.

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Frankey
3 years ago

I still feel like the land based casinos aren't for everyone, as well as not everyone is interested in online casino even though they like to play in physical casinos. It's a different type of experience. We've seen this in 2020 during the first phase of COVID when casinos got closed. Online casinos got more customers, but the increase wasn't as significant as someone would expect.

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