ForumGeneral Gambling Discussiondo you find a difference in how casino games act the first time you play vs the 3rd or 5th ?

do you find a difference in how casino games act the first time you play vs the 3rd or 5th ?

4 years ago by crimsonmoney
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4 years ago

I don't mean to be a sore loser but it does seem odd sometimes in games that I have hit the bonus for instance wild west chest or 888 stage or gold train or similar games where all of a sudden where I hit 5 or 6 times an hour before now all of a sudden I am getting nothing ?! Is it just coincidence or something else ?

your thoughts pls 

4 years ago

Yes I do. I have seen the same games behave differently after usage. That could also be a random way because of prior usage of that game during the day. I have had similar experience with slots where suddenly everyday I lose and sometimes everyday i have great games.

crimsonmoney
4 years ago

I don't believe that slots can "remember" your gambling history from a previous day (that would be against all RNG rules). Anyway, since some providers started offering the option to change RTP, I would believe that you can have different results while playing the same slot in different casinos. That's certainly possible.

Daniel
4 years ago

I thought the same thing: it could be that the slot machine remembers my previous games.

As a personal experience, what I do if I am going to play a slot a second time in the same casino, I delete the browsing history of my browser. It may sound and maybe a little silly, but it feels like it works. I count it only as experience, I do not in any way affirm that this has any validity.

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4 years ago

(PRNG) – Used in online casinos 

u can read about it here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandom_number_generator

PLAY ON CASINOS only with licence and i mean trustworthy agencies 

They will protect all players to have same % of winning and not remmembering anything,which i think some casinos even do, or rememer your winnings (+ money) and they decrese your chances to win more for example u can't win 10000e with 10e deposited, that's impossible, they keep some % there to give more winnings(money(  to the one who deposit more,because they want to keep those players..

Playtech is the most generous software provider in the industry so try to play some of their games.that doesn't mean that you’re going to win more often or end up losing less after a while but still..

In the end, it all comes down to how much fun you’re having . You should never play slots, to make money. Find a game you enjoy  the most, set a budget you can afford to lose and have fun.if u even win some money that's a bonus

Daniel
4 years ago

what are ou talking about ?

of cause they do !! if you play eg. gonzo's quest at different casinos at

different days the game always know exactly that it is you who is playing

and how often you played the game in the past...how much you won and lost

...everything.

the online casino only works as a kind of intermediary and only creates a

connection between you and the server of the provider(in this case it is netent).

the provider recognizes you by your mac address (this is the fixed serial number

of your computer or your mobile device)

 

4 years ago

Hello, i have integrated many Casinò suppliers in my work and i think that a slot can not remember the gambling history of a player. The only factor that could be affected by the gambling history is the RNG but i think that this is unlikely.

There are two main slot features:RTP and volatility.The RTP is the return to player, the higher this value the more money is distributed among the players. About volatility, low volatility means that you will win often but only small amounts. I think the best solution is to combine high volatility slots with low volatility slots: it is as if you make a soccer bet combining low and high odds

Userrob
4 years ago

I 100% agree with Userrob here. I don't think slots can remember your gambling history. There's not even a reason to do so. When the slot's RTP is set to 96%, the provider and casino can be sure that the will get their money from the long-term perspective. They don't need to care if someone won a lot on an individual slot and someone didn't.

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Daniel
4 years ago

How come u can see all of your spins, hand by hand... recorded in .txt of casino...

they not even hide it,u can enter history tab w/ u want and see.they must keep tracking that for tax report.

NOW that maybe is not - slot/provider history.BUT,

Don't tell me that some casinos are not using winning rate % of your account to gave u specific slot machine that is -+ in %ratio. For example look at this picture - 

https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZiFbMkZ5HLEoOOOkyf8rBHNJ7npHLBNJ8gX

For the same game, u have a room of slots, and on some casinos u don't .They decide where to put you . It's a well know fact in ground based casinos that if someone lose money on slot machine (big money) and u sit after him u have much more chance to make money, there are even people in casinos who wait for someone to lose money just to sit after him..so 96% ratio is justified,and u select the machine .. in online casinos u don't have that options....

Anyway whatever the case is i just know one thing and that is - they keep big rollers in every way possible. 

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Inferno
4 years ago

What you're describing about land based casinos is correct. When the slot machine doesn't payout for a long time, you should have bigger chance of winning if you play there after someone leaves. It's simply because the slot machine has the built in RTP so it needs to return some part of the money back at some point.

Regarding online slots, I'm convinced that when you play e.g. Starburst and 200 other people play the same game at the same time, the game behaves like 1 slot for all of you together with a common RTP, not 200 individual slots.

I remember a guy who deposited around 500e, won about 30,000e and made a withdrawal. Then he played again, deposited around 800e more and won 50,000e on the same slot 2 weeks later. The slot provider didn't really care about the fact that he already won a lot. There are also known cases when 1 person won 2x jackpot on the same slot during few months/years.

4 years ago

What you're describing about land based casinos is correct. When the slot machine doesn't payout for a long time, you should have bigger chance of winning if you play there after someone leaves. It's simply because the slot machine has the built in RTP so it needs to return some part of the money back at some point.

Regarding online slots, I'm convinced that when you play e.g. Starburst and 200 other people play the same game at the same time, the game behaves like 1 slot for all of you together with a common RTP, not 200 individual slots.

I remember a guy who deposited around 500e, won about 30,000e and made a withdrawal. Then he played again, deposited around 800e more and won 50,000e on the same slot 2 weeks later. The slot provider didn't really care about the fact that he already won a lot. There are also known cases when 1 person won 2x jackpot on the same slot during few months/years.

4 years ago

2 weeks later - maybe the key in this story.They must back to 100% and pay weekly to the casino 4%.. no one says that remember forever

 

the slot provider - also no one says that provider care, providers has nothing to do with that.. it's up to casino... 

Im not sure man, but if i run a casino i would not let that one guy wins all the time, and 50 others just lose...on any game..that's not ever related to game or provider... 

Ofc no one will say that out loud, but the systems behind it can be set that u can win only specific % of deposit for each acc...

it's not even that hard.maybe it's even random,like a funnel, so someone from that funnel be selected to win huge money or jackpot...but trust me , i never met a guy who won jackpot playing on 0.05e per spin,... and i know a lot of them online and offline who won jackpots. 

So idk... im not claim anything,or something like that just saying it's hard to belive that they don't do some way of selecting,if u have 10,50k of people somewhere u have to have some control

 

 

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Inferno
4 years ago

Regarding the jackpot winners - as far as I remember, it was no secret that your chance of winning the jackpot increases with the size of your bet/spin. Your spins on slots are evaluated on the provider's server so even though casino probably doesn't want to see someone winning all the time, they can influence it.

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crimsonmoney
2 years ago

yes true mate always they give a chance first time as new comer after that you'll chase them on review websites

grindom
2 years ago

Yes, I've experienced these things too. It is hard to find a good casino nowadays.

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