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Be aware before u deposit to any casino

4 years ago by Inferno
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4 years ago

Is it Money Laundering when u deposit with one processor and withdrawal on another?

I recently played on Melbet and deposit via Skrill and when i wanted to withdr. he says u Skrill is unavailable for withdrawal. Use Payeer.. or deposit with another processor ,play again (in some little wager) and then withdrawal..

Are u kidding me? i have to deposit again to withdrawal ..and why is Skrill /Neteller unavailable for withdrawal?

I got to admire their speed because i got money almost instantly after 1minute on Payeer..but why they do that?

What if i didn't have Payeer?Or any other processor?

PPl really need to be aware of this kind of things..

Now i got money stucked on Payeer ..

Inferno
4 years ago

Yes, it is potentially a way to do money laundering when they don't allow you to use the same withdrawal method. I understand that there can be some technical difficulties, but they could just ask you to wait until they fix it.

Daniel
4 years ago

no, it's just disabled...they only pay u on payeer or btc

Btw i tried do dep and they don't have Payeer for deposit..

Inferno
4 years ago

Let me tell you that I always do that type of "transactions" (I am the guru of that type of operation 😇) to change money from one wallet to another, or indirectly pass my money from the wallet to the credit card (skrill-casino- visa card)

The requirement is that you have made a deposit and withdrawal with the payment method.

In my case deposit and withdrawal with Skrill and deposit and withdrawal with visa card.

And then without problems you can take out and put where you want, for example BTC-casino-Skrill.

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lauarual
4 years ago

Then it's not a good casino. When I worked in a casino, we had to approve a withdrawal not just to a withdrawal method that was used recently, but it had to be to the withdrawal method where the winning deposit came from. For example a player deposits 20 with VISA and wins 1000. Then deposits 10 with Skrill and wants to withdraw 1010 to Skrill. It would never be possible. The winning deposit was the 20 from VISA, so the winnings have to go to VISA.

Another example - for example with William Hill, when you deposit 20 with VISA and 20 with Skrill and do some sports bets until you have for example 100, they will count every single winning from both deposits and then when you want to withdraw, you see that you have to withdraw at least 37.77 back to VISA and you can't withdraw it all to Skrill, because part of your winnings comes from VISA.

Daniel
4 years ago

Yes I understand.

In fact, it is a lousy casino, but it helps me for those "conversions", because in my country I cannot cash BTC for example. So if I have a balance in BTC, I deposit at the casino, bet x1.1 (requirement before requesting withdrawal) and request a withdrawal with Skrill or Visa.

I use it as a converter, let's say, because otherwise I would not have to make it useful for me those BTC balances for example.


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lauarual
4 years ago

If the casino allows you to do this, then of course, do it. But they shouldn't make this possible. How come you can't cash BTC? Can't you send your BTC for example to bitstamp BTC wallet and then convert it to EUR/USD there?

Daniel
4 years ago

I can send BTC to any electronic wallet, but it is useless because I cannot cash. In other words, I cannot go to the bank to be changed, I cannot deposit into my bank account, I cannot pay in shops of basic necessity.

The same thing happens to me with skrill even. It is not a current payment method, I cannot send it to my visa, nor to my bank account (if I can deposit with my visa in skrill).

So I have two paths:

1. I sell it to a single company that makes balance changes of skrill, neteller, paypal. I send the balance to your skrill account and send it in local currency to my bank account. And he charges me a commission for the change.

2. I use this converter casino to deposit with skrill and withdraw with visa. So I don't pay commissions, but I have to wait 48 hours for the balance to reach my account.

For all this is that I became an expert in looking for alternatives to make the money that I have or that I earn with skrill, BTC, or any electronic wallet, can really serve me!

That's my life story in casinos 😅

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lauarual
4 years ago

How come? ... U can sell BTC on localbitcoins.com/country/PY

and get money on skrill/neteller ,or any other

even on Wester Union...

there are also couple good exchangers

u can check when u select on www.okchanger.com and

www.bestchange.com


lauarual
4 years ago

So when you exchange BTC to EUR or USD on Bitstamp and try to send the EUR to you bank account, the bank won't accept it?

Daniel
4 years ago

It accepts surely, but I never tried because it is expensive to receive a bank transfer ($ 55) and also I must have an account in USD at the bank (and I have only in local currency)

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Inferno
4 years ago

I did not know .. I will investigate

thanks 😉

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lauarual
4 years ago

Btw when u withdraw money on BTC from some casino how m %fee it take?

or u can't withdraw to BTC?

not casino it self i mean for btc transaction...i heard it takes like 7-10euros


Inferno
4 years ago

Only once did I withdraw with BTC, from a single casino, and they paid me without any commission discounts or additional fees.

When I deposit with BTC I am charged a "network commission". For example, $ 50 I want to deposit at the casino and they charge me like $ 0.7 (more or less like this)

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4 years ago

It accepts surely, but I never tried because it is expensive to receive a bank transfer ($ 55) and also I must have an account in USD at the bank (and I have only in local currency)

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4 years ago

$55 fee? Are you serious? 😀 I pay 0 in one bank and 0.3 eur in another one.

Daniel
4 years ago

i get usually 30e (35$) when i pull to bank..

It doesn't matter how much u pull the fee is 30e..i pulled out once 100e got 69 on my acc...

1e is for something else also...i was furiuos..

that only pays off if u transfer like 5000-500000e

Luckily i got BTC atm in Belgrade, also now can deposit to Neteller/Skrill again from card..

Also i heard there is N26 so a lot of people use that too

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Daniel
4 years ago

The rate is higher than the amount I want to change! 😅

I worked a long time at the bank a few years ago, but so far nothing changed, the rates are still insane!

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4 years ago

But I have a question with those transactions, the. Casino does not give you trouble by changing the withdrawal methods? Because I have done that and there are times that they do not allow me to change the methods ... It would be good if the casinos were more permissive in these cases

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paulish
4 years ago

U can't do this normally ..in any casino

but here there are payment processor who do withdraw and the ones

where u can deposit. u can see list when u dep/with

It sucks because if u use only one processor u can't get your money

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