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poufis81
1 year ago
itus

I don't want to get into the merits but just give some advice, I have the same problem as you, I excluded myself from Italian AAMS casinos and unfortunately I "fell back" to non-AAMS ones. I solved it by installing Gamban on all the devices in my possession. Block any access to casino sites and derivatives

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Michele1672
1 year ago
itus

As soon as I get my money back, I will definitely do it. However, since I had this problem, I have not used any site. If the only option is to lose, what's the point? I had already found the APP of course. Thanks Michele. In the end, did you manage to withdraw?

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1 year ago
grus

Thank you for your suggestion regarding **Gamban** and the experience you shared. Indeed, the problem of self-exclusion is quite complex, especially when there are so many platforms that are not subject to strict regulations like AAMS casinos.


Using tools like Gamban is certainly a useful solution for blocking access to such websites. However, the main issue I face is that the platforms I played on **should have applied my self-exclusion** to all their sister sites, which unfortunately did not happen.


I hope the relevant authorities take action and ensure that responsible gambling policies are implemented properly so that we do not have to rely solely on external tools.

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tendenz
1 year ago
itus

Yes I have to be honest after 3 days the sums were paid regularly. About not using anything anymore I agree with you...

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poufis81
1 year ago
itus

All true but unfortunately we also have to put in a bit of our will, after all their interest is to have you as a customer and they do everything not to lose you, we should be the ones who "limit ourselves"..

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1 year ago
grus

"Following my previous message..."

I would like to add that my investigation has uncovered additional evidence that reinforces the fact that NovaForge Ltd manages its platforms centrally, rendering self-exclusion meaningless when applied to individual websites.

More specifically:

The IP addresses of the platforms belong to the same subnet, which indicates shared hosting and unified management.

The same live support system is used across all platforms, confirming the existence of a unified customer management backend.

Therefore, the company's refusal to implement horizontal self-exclusion raises serious ethical and compliance issues with the principles of responsible gambling.

I expect an immediate response from the competent authorities and a review of the self-exclusion policy by NovaForge Ltd, in order to avoid further violations.



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poufis81
1 year ago
itus

Again....you had already written it

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1 year ago
grus

I know he's capable of paying, they used to pay and very quickly, but now I don't know what's happened to them.

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1 year ago

So, does it mean that you have made a successful withdrawal from this casino before?

I would surely suggest you file a complaint here so our team can intervene in your case after the 14-day time period from the date you have requested the withdrawal.

If you are interested, please use this link and describe the situation. You will be informed about the next steps later on.

1 year ago
grus

Hello,

I would like to share my personal experience and inform other players about the practices of NovaForge Ltd, which operates under a common license ALSI-152406028-FI2, valid until June 13, 2025.

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The issue of self-exclusion and its implications

After requesting self-exclusion from the Robocat platform, I should not have been able to play on any other platform owned by the same company. However, despite my self-exclusion, I was allowed to register and play on the Vegasino platform, which circumvents the basic principles of responsible gambling.

This multi-platform policy, with which the company constantly creates new brands under the same license, aims to "capture" vulnerable players and allow them to continue playing, despite the restrictions that have been imposed.

If we accept that self-exclusion must be applied individually to each platform separately, then we will have effectively "killed" the addicted player, allowing them to slide into a vicious cycle of addiction, without any real protection.

This phenomenon is not only unethical but also dangerous, as providers have a responsibility to ensure that players are protected when they take self-protection measures, such as self-exclusion.

Casino Guru complaint rejection

I filed a complaint with Casino Guru, explaining my problem and concern, but my complaint was closed as unjustified, despite the fact that a previous, identical complaint from another player about the Posido platform was reviewed and resolved positively.

This differential treatment raises questions about consistency and transparency in the complaints resolution process.

What am I asking for?

Have my complaint re-evaluated by a different administrator.

My history of self-exclusion from Robocat should be taken into account and properly implemented across all group platforms.

To be reimbursed for the net losses incurred from my participation in their platforms.

Make self-exclusion policies clear across all group platforms to effectively protect players.

I ask anyone who has faced similar problems with these platforms to share their experience. It is important to make the situation known and ensure that the relevant authorities take the necessary measures.


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1 year ago

I am really sorry for your situation, but unfortunately our team was not able to help you out, and the reason was explained in detail in your complaint:

"Platform Connection and Ethical Responsibility

I cannot confirm any direct connection between Robocat and Vegasino, even though their websites may appear similar. There is no clear confirmation that they share a player database or any other direct operational link. Even if there is some overlap in employees, Anjouan Gaming’s regulations require self-exclusion to be handled individually for each casino. Players must request self-exclusion at each platform separately, regardless of any perceived connection between casinos.

Self-Exclusion Process

Since you opened your account with Vegasino after requesting self-exclusion from Robocat, it would have been impossible for Robocat to self-exclude you from Vegasino at that time, as no record of your Vegasino account existed.

Responsible Gaming Violation

While I understand your concerns regarding responsible gaming practices, the regulations of Anjouan Gaming differ significantly from those of stricter jurisdictions such as the UKGC or MGA. Under Anjouan’s licensing, self-exclusion is not applied across platforms automatically, which reflects the legal framework of that jurisdiction. This limitation is not an intentional violation of responsible gaming principles by the casino, but rather an issue of jurisdictional regulations.

Request for Refund

Your request for a refund of €3,800 is based on the argument that the violation of self-exclusion principles led to your deposits at Vegasino. However, since self-exclusion is not enforced across platforms under the Anjouan license and your Vegasino account was created after your self-exclusion at Robocat, the casino cannot be held liable for failing to implement a cross-platform exclusion.

Casino Guru’s Role

I want to assure you that Casino Guru takes ethical responsibility and responsible gambling very seriously. However, our role is to assess complaints based on the facts and the regulatory framework governing each casino. In this case, we cannot hold the casino accountable for cross-platform self-exclusion when this is not required by their license.

EGBA, UKGC, MGA Regulations

While the examples you provided highlight stricter self-exclusion practices under the EGBA, UKGC, and MGA, these regulations do not apply to casinos licensed under Anjouan Gaming.

Given the circumstances, I regret to inform you that I have no other option but to reject your complaint as unjustified.

If you have further concerns or new information to share, please feel free to reach out. However, based on the facts available, we are unable to pursue the matter further."


So, if you read the last sentence from Petronela, you can see that only if you have any new information to share, our complaint team will review your case. Otherwise, there is nothing more we can do for you.

Please also keep in mind our cooperation with the Betblocker, which was recommended to you previously. It really can help people in your situation, and if you seek any other help, I wish you all the luck in getting everything under control.

Romi
1 year ago
grus

Hello,


I would like to share my experience and raise some important questions regarding the management of platforms operating under the license of **NovaForge Ltd**, which allows dozens of online casinos to operate under a common license.


### 1. How is it possible for the same person from **live support** to answer simultaneously for different platforms?

When I contacted live support at both **Robocat** and **Vegasino**, I found that the **same person** responded to my requests. This raises questions about **shared data management** and whether these platforms are truly independent. If they are separate companies, how is it possible to have centralized support from the same staff?


### 2. Doesn't the existence of a joint license mean joint responsibility for self-exclusion?

NovaForge Ltd operates dozens of platforms under the same license. According to the principles of responsible gambling, shouldn't a self-exclusion apply to **all** of the company's platforms? Why is it allowed to register and play on another platform after self-exclusion?


### 3. Playtech confirmed that Vegasino is using its software illegally – how is it possible that it continues to operate?

I have received a response from Playtech confirming that the **Vegasino** platform is using their software without a valid license. This raises serious questions about the legality of their operations and transparency towards players. How can they continue to operate without legal consequences?


I would like to hear the opinions and experiences of other players who have faced similar situations. Do you think these practices are acceptable? Is it time to take action and inform the relevant authorities?


We are facing a situation where players are left unprotected, and we need to find ways to ensure that the right rules are applied for everyone.

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poufis81
1 year ago

If I may answer. I believe that if you feel that the licensing authority should be contacted, you surely do so. They should check all these you have mentioned.

Romi
1 year ago
grus

Dear Romi,

I would like to inform you that I have already filed a complaint with the Anjouan Gaming Authority and am awaiting their response. However, I also expect Casino Guru to take appropriate action against the casino.

Your inaction does not help to resolve the problem, as the evidence I have provided is irrefutable and I am amazed why it is not being adequately investigated by your team. I also believe that the rating of this casino on Casino Guru should be much lower, given the serious irregularities that have been identified.

I await your next actions.

Best regards,

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1 year ago
itus

It's been almost 2 weeks that my account on vegasino is blocked and I am banned from the Chat service. But how is all this possible? They didn't even ask me to verify my account. They can't steal my money!

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1 year ago
grus

Dear Romi,

I would like to inform you that I have already filed a complaint with the Anjouan Gaming Authority and am awaiting their response. However, I also expect Casino Guru to take appropriate action against the casino.

Your inaction does not help to resolve the problem, as the evidence I have provided is irrefutable and I am amazed why it is not being adequately investigated by your team. I also believe that the rating of this casino on Casino Guru should be much lower, given the serious irregularities that have been identified.

I await your next actions.

Best regards,

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1 year ago

Unfortunately, to tell you the truth, we have no such power, and as I said, these kinds of things and acusations can be only investigated and regulated by the licensing authority.

And without any confirmation from the licensee, we are not able to do anything.

I hope you can understand our position.

Please inform us if you have any updates.

1 year ago
itus

It's been almost 2 weeks that my account on vegasino is blocked and I am banned from the Chat service. But how is all this possible? They didn't even ask me to verify my account. They can't steal my money!

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1 year ago

I can see that your complaint is being taken care of by our team, so please wait until there will be some movement visible.

You will be informed about next steps, and hopefully soon we'll be able to find out what exactly is going on there.

Romi
1 year ago
grus

Dear Romi,

Thank you for your response. However, I would like to point out that I have in my possession an official confirmation from Playtech, which explicitly states that the Vegasino platform is using its software illegally. This is irrefutable evidence that the casino is violating the law and the ethical principles of responsible gambling.

I would expect Casino Guru to take this seriously and take appropriate action, such as downgrading the casino's rating or even warning users about the lack of Playtech licensing.

Your position, that you cannot take action without confirmation from the licensing authority, is understandable, but the existence of documented evidence from a leading software provider should not be ignored.

I await your actions and remain at your disposal to provide you with the relevant evidence proving the above.

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poufis81
1 year ago

Did you send this document to the licensing authority already?

If you wish, you can provide it to our data team so they can check it out as well. Just send it with the whole explanation to data@casino.guru, please.

Romi
1 year ago
grus

Dear Romi,


Thank you for your response.


I would like to inform you that the response from Playtech was received after I submitted my complaint. Therefore, I did not have the information you requested available previously.



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poufis81
1 year ago

But you still can provide it now. Right?

1 year ago
itus

Good evening everyone, unfortunately and I repeat unfortunately I am in the same situation as you today I have been waiting 4 days since the withdrawal request last Tuesday, but unfortunately nothing every time they tell me not to worry, regarding self-exclusion, I had done it but playing on Playzilla I could withdraw without problems within 3 days

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