Wagerinox Casino - yleistä keskustelua (sivu 7)

Yes, maybe you can't do anything, but can't the players do anything? Is there no way for players to take action against the casino? There is no authority in Curacao where you can go. Don't you have an address or other tip for the players?

Ja vielleicht könnt ihr nichts tun, aber können die Spieler nichts tun? Gibt es für die spieler keine möglichkeit gegen das casino vor zu gehen? Gibt es keine Behörde in Curacao wo man sich hinwenden kann. Hättet ihr für die Spieler nicht eine Adresse oder sonst ein tipp?

I've done so much as emailed the Curacao licensing company with their business license (see below) ...I also sent a message to the man who signed the certificate after looking him up on Linkedin.

From: Rich Boyce <rboyce212@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 6:40 PM

Subject: PREDICTEN N.V. Company number: 164037 Registered in Curaçao

To: <info@curacaolicensing.com>, <helpdesk@curacaolicensing.com>

This company doing business under the name Wagerinox is committing banking fraud and illegally withholding all withdrawal requests for payment they have received. I've been in contact with about 40 other persons who are owed money from this business and they have not paid anyone. It is my belief that they have yet to issue funds to a single customer while they continue to process deposits and collect funds from hundreds of customers. This business is committing fraud and we will continue to seek out every possible legal action available until they either pay their debts or shut down. 

Regards

The players can submit a complaint and if that is unresolved, the safety index of the casino will be lowered. This is the only thing which can be done here, unfortunately. We hope the low safety index will be helpful, at least, in cases like this.

Thank you for your insides and tat you case about others, as well. Hopefully there will be some light at the end of this tunnel.🤞 We are really sorry, that we can not be of any more help here.

I think we have definitive proof of conspiracy to commit fraud.

This email is from the the same "licensing" company that appears on what Wagerinox is claiming to be their gaming license certificate. According to C.I.L. Curaçao Interactive Licensing N.V., neither the casino's website nor the company is known to them. Unless they are lying simply to save face about issuing a license to a business committing securities fraud, then this gaming license was completely falsified and Wagerinox is guilty of a few more crimes than I originally anticipated. I'm still holding onto hope that a few of these people will be held accountable. They messed with the wrong disgruntled gambler this time.

update:

---------- Forwarded message ---------

From: CIL - Info <info@curacaolicensing.com>

Date: Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 2:16 AM

Subject: Re: PREDICTEN N.V. Company number: 164037 Registered in Curaçao

To: Rich Boyce

Cc: CIL - HelpDesk <helpdesk@curacaolicensing.com>

Dear Rich, 

Unfortunately it is. We already contacted the management of the company Predicten N.V. informing them of this for their action.

From: Rich Boyce

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 11:15:10 PM

To: CIL - Info <info@curacaolicensing.com>

Cc: CIL - HelpDesk <helpdesk@curacaolicensing.com>

Subject: Re: PREDICTEN N.V. Company number: 164037 Registered in Curaçao

So this is a falsified document attached?

Generally speaking, the CIL license is one of the weakest. As you may see, it's just an ordinary pdf document, which is quite easy to alter or forge for anyone these days. 🙁

If I'm not mistaken, you attached this document to emails sent to the CIL representative, and the response was "Unfortunately it is." Am I correct at this point? Thus, I bet it proves the document is not of true origin.

Anyway, I'm forwarding your findings to our dedicated Data Team. The current review says the license is held under CEG and is still, unverifiable.

We'll be in touch with you for further updates.

Hi!

Anything new on your side?

I'm back with a bit of follow-up. We're trying to get an official response from the licensing authority, probably from both. Based on the outcome, the review will be changed accordingly if necessary.

These investigations may be slow, but I'm trying to stay in touch with the process.

Yes, he is confirming that the document is a forgery. I haven't done any additional follow up here unfortunately. I'm in my last week of a 16 month full stack developer course and I've simply been too busy to continue chasing down this casino. It really feels that someone besides a private citizen who had $600 stolen from him should be lead investigator on this. If I'm not mistaken what they're doing would be considered a fairly serous ``crime in most countries, yet even with this knowledge, I can still go on their site right now and deposit money.

Unfortunately our data team has not received any answers yet, so we don't have any kind of update. It is really up to players, many times, to find out more details about an online casinos, simply from their experience by playing there. Other wise it is really difficult to keep up with so so many online casinos all over the world and we are thankful to all the players to help us with it this way. I hope we will be able to find out more soon.