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Vivaspin Casino - Player’s withdrawal is delayed due to unfair terms.

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Case summary

The player from Switzerland faced issues withdrawing money from vivaspin.com, claiming deceptive bonus terms that had changed after signup. He highlighted an unfair limit on bonus conversions and the casino's false advertising about instant withdrawals. Despite having had positive past experiences with Igloo casinos, he felt cheated and aimed to warn others about the potential unfair practices. The complaint was handled by the Complaints Team, who reviewed the case and requested clarification from the casino. The casino responded by directing the player to contact their VIP support for account-specific issues. The player communicated further with the casino and the Complaints Team, who monitored the situation. Eventually, the player marked the complaint as resolved, and the Complaints Team closed the case accordingly.

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Hello,


I have already written a very detailed forum post about this, which is why I am linking to it here as a supplement.

I am also aware that the company Igloo has rarely responded to complaints in the past, so I have no illusions that we will be able to resolve this.


Having had consistently positive experiences with Igloo Casinos recently, and even mentioning them here on CG and elsewhere (Trustpilot, etc.) as a hidden gem, I honestly had no further doubts about their trustworthiness. I was aware that, for example, Incognito had some unresolved complaints here with you all, but these were often older, and I was genuinely convinced that a change of heart had taken place at the operator level and that they wanted to operate fairly.


I registered at vivaspin.com nine days ago and didn't deposit anything initially. After eight days, I received an exceptionally high bonus offer promising a €200 bonus, regardless of the deposit amount. Now, I'm quite experienced in the casino world, so the first thing I did was, of course, thoroughly review the terms and conditions in English several times to check whether the bonus amount would be deducted upon withdrawal or if the win limit was unnaturally low. But, like other casinos, they have a relatively fair limit of 10x the bonus amount.

I played a bit more riskily and couldn't meet the €200 bonus requirements. The next day, another special offer appeared, without specifying the amount; it was supposed to be visible after logging in to the website. This time it was a €100 bonus, again independent of the deposit amount.


I checked the terms and conditions again, which are very clear and not nearly as long or full of traps as with other providers. After that, I played for hours with small stakes and managed to reach the €4,000 turnover with a balance of €510. When my bonus amount of €510 was then converted to €100 real money, I initially thought it was a technical error.


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Before contacting support, I already had a strange feeling and checked the bonus terms and conditions again, where suddenly clause 6 was limited to "one time" of the bonus amount. This must have been changed so quickly that the translations in other languages ​​still state 10x the bonus amount.


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I normally ALWAYS take screenshots of the terms and conditions, but with this company I had absolutely no doubts due to the consistently positive experiences I'd had recently, which is why I didn't take one and was already kicking myself because although I could say I'd read the terms and conditions 10 times, I couldn't prove it.

But then I saw here that another user had the EXACT same problem in the discussion 4 months ago, and luckily he also saved the terms and conditions as they always were.


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I'm sure you'll agree that a maximum bonus amount of 1x, while not impossible, is unfair and, above all, atypical for the industry. Especially when you know that ALL your casinos have a 10x bonus limit. The fact that they only changed it in English hopefully makes it quite clear that this relatively small casino seems to make changes "as needed" from time to time, because they obviously know that most people can't manage to meet the €4,000 or €8,000 bonus wagering requirement.


I understand that it's not ideal for smaller casinos when a user wins large sums with a €20 stake. But considering all the "high rollers" who lose thousands of euros, these smaller users should be treated fairly with their winnings, and above all, the terms and conditions shouldn't be changed quietly and without consent.

Since this complaint will most likely end up being written off as unresolved, I can only hope that you'll include it here as a red warning for the casino, just as you warn against unfair terms and conditions, for example. In my opinion, this kind of behavior, along with refusing to pay out, is the most unethical thing one can do, and such a company should be avoided at all costs. It's not about the 20 euros; hours of time were invested here, and in the end, one gets cheated? I'm only writing this complaint in the hope that it might warn someone else in time; unfortunately, there's nothing more I can do now.


Incidentally, the casino prominently advertises "INSTANT Withdrawals", which is also a lie.

Before you ask: KYC was not requested and can only be completed if the casino activates this feature in your profile. It wasn't required at any of their other casinos, which is unusual but almost certainly because I had already completed it once at another of their casinos (I only had to do it once; it was never requested again at any of the others).

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1 month ago

Important notice:

Casino Guru will never ask for payments or access to your accounts to complete KYC. If someone claims to be from Casino Guru and does that, do not share any information.

We only contact players through this official complaint thread or via @casino.guru e-mail addresses. Always check the sender’s domain and verify your complaint resolver’s e-mail address by clicking on their avatar visible inside the official complaint thread.

If anything seems suspicious, contact us directly.

Stay safe.

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Dear hugbearli,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem.

Could you kindly provide a link to the promotion you participated in? Additionally, if you have any proof regarding the changes in the terms and conditions, that would be very helpful.

Sadly, there is not much I can do to support your case without any additional evidence. Casinos try to design their bonuses to be as attractive as possible, and setting a maximum cash out limit for bonus winnings is very common. Please, do not hesitate to let me know if there is anything else I could help you with, otherwise, I will be forced to close this complaint.

Thank you very much in advance for your understanding.

Best regards,

Attila


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Hello Attila,


There's no link; they arrived via email, like all non-standard bonus offers.

The bonus emails contained no restrictions such as changed limits, which casinos do occasionally.


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The notification widget on the website also contained no hidden fine print.



I'm a bit confused right now. First, Casino.Guru, unlike many other sites, sets the score so high, even though casinos from the same operator and management (Incognito, Luckypays, etc.) have scores of 1.x or 3.x and are rated red. Then, my objective review is "withheld," and now you're telling me it's common practice to limit bonus winnings? Yes, it is, but not to change the terms and conditions at short notice without the consent of depositing customers. If the casino were to add to its terms and conditions tomorrow, for example, that withdrawals would only be processed for amounts of €100,000 or more, would that be legal and acceptable?


I don't know what else could be proven besides a screenshot of the bonus terms and conditions and the fact that no casino in this group pays out less than 10x the bonus amount? Should users next time record everything from accessing the email link to the payout hours later?


As I've said before, I fully understand that you at Casino.Guru also have people who support families, etc., but if casinos can now obtain "protection" and good ratings here in some dubious way, that would be a real shame. In that case, I would strongly urge your management (as I've already written) to make this complaint system chargeable, or at least optional, and in return, evaluate it neutrally.


I sincerely hope that I am mistaken and that you remain against fair gambling in this industry.



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Good evening dear Attila,

Please allow me to briefly mention that I don't mean anything bad by the following comments and that I always (online and in person) maintain a respectful exchange on equal terms.


I've known Casino.Guru for a few years now and have come to appreciate the platform very much, also because your complaint system (as you can see) has helped me a few times. I always found it a bit difficult not being able to give anything back except a good Trustpilot review, but oh well.

While I've noticed some strange things about the colleagues at AskG for some time now, such as the reference to the supervisory authority in Curacao, I've always perceived your system and website as extremely fair and have always wondered why you put so much staff effort into it.


As a simple user, I was of course familiar with the basics of affiliate marketing, etc., and it's perfectly legitimate for a "neutral" platform to earn money through links to pay its employees, offices, etc., and of course to make a profit; that's completely okay, and I don't begrudge you that.

We all know that 95% of the "review sites" on the internet are disreputable and optimized for Google SEO, where inexperienced users are then led to scammers, etc. That's precisely why I perceived you as a large, reputable player.

However, your handling of my clearly documented complaint has irritated me so much that this afternoon (as is the custom these days) I asked Google's (Gemini) currently best AI according to independent comparisons in Pro and Deep Search mode and the latest model, e.g. why some casinos have high ratings here, why AskG doesn't process many complaints, etc.

I'd like to point out that this deep search mode really does search incredibly deep, and you can easily have to wait 30 minutes to get a huge report (10-50 pages) where every statement is supported by sources and checked three times. I couldn't understand why you go to all this trouble. The fact that such an obvious complaint isn't being treated neutrally, and that other users aren't being warned by my documented and objective negative review (because you're "holding it back"), has left me quite irritated. As a regular user, I don't have such detailed insight into the history and context, which makes Gemini's research all the more interesting and, above all, enlightening.

To reiterate: It's perfectly legitimate that you want to pay for your servers, etc. I think that Casino.Guru, like AskG, was certainly founded in good faith and with good intentions, and then grew organically and had to offer certain things to cover costs. But it's a real shame that you, of all people, don't neutrally disclose this. You know yourselves that most users, like me (99%), aren't aware of all this background information, and I think your platform, in particular, could clearly state that you aren't necessarily neutral. I'm just quoting the key points about you from Gemini's lengthy report, which I wasn't familiar with.


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Casino.Guru, operated by an opaque network of companies with registrations and operational centers spanning from Georgia (Tbilisi) and Slovakia to shell companies in the Cayman Islands, often presents itself to the market as the data-driven, almost academic alternative. With over 28 employees in its in-house Complaint Resolution Center (CRC) alone, handling thousands of cases, the platform appears to be a massive bureaucratic apparatus for player protection.

The suspicion that this expensive staff is not paid out of pure altruism, but rather financed through hidden premium services, gets to the heart of Casino.Guru's business practices. The platform operates on a model strongly reminiscent of commercial review portals like Trustpilot, where companies pay to manage their reputation.

Casino.Guru actively and systematically sells B2B (business-to-business) services to casino operators. This is done under the guise of "reputation management" and "complaint compliance." Industry research and leaks from the B2B sector show that operators can enter into formal retainer agreements with review platforms and their agencies to control their presence on these sites.
The pricing structure for such specialized reputation services in the affiliate environment is divided into different levels:

Starter / Essential packages (approx. €800 per month): These basic contracts include active profile monitoring, guaranteed handling of up to 15 complaints per month by dedicated account managers, and a Service Level Agreement (SLA) with a 48-hour response time.

Professional/Premium packages (approx. €1,800 per month): This level offers comprehensive reputation protection. It includes handling up to 40 complaints, communication with ADR bodies, proactive monitoring of external forums (such as Reddit), and a guaranteed 24-hour SLA for damage limitation.


If you are interested, the German version of the research, including all sources, can be read here .


Therefore, your actions are now more understandable to me, and I can only urge your management to act more transparently, in accordance with the presumed original idea behind the company's founding, especially since there are so many disreputable players.


Since I assume that you will close or even delete the complaint, I will now consider the matter closed and of course will not cause you any more work here in the future, you already have enough to do.

Even though this is theoretically publicly readable, I would consider it a fair gesture if you left it here, since no one is accessing it anyway. You also have my email address if you'd like to give me some friendly, objective feedback privately when you have the chance.

I don't think that makes you highly unprofessional because of this, since you're still better than everyone else (presumably), but the founding idea was probably different at one time, just like with AskGambler, and even if you change certain principles, it would only be fair not to do it secretly – that way you won't suffer any damage from your advertising partners, etc.


All the best to you in these politically chaotic times!


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Dear hugbearli,

Thank you for your response. I sincerely empathize with your frustration regarding this situation.

I would like to address one point in particular regarding the information you mentioned from AI-generated research. While modern AI tools can certainly be helpful for gathering information, it is important to keep in mind that not everything produced by AI is necessarily accurate or based on verified facts. These systems often compile data from various sources on the internet, which may include speculation, outdated information, or content that lacks proper context. Because of this, AI outputs should always be treated with a degree of caution and independently verified when possible.


To effectively evaluate your complaint, could you kindly forward the email containing the promotional offers directly to my email address? You can reach me at attila.g@casino.guru.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.

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I sent both. You are certainly right in that one shouldn't blindly trust AI and should check key statements on a sample basis.

However, it remains true that the most powerful models, like the one I'm using here with Deep Research and Pro mode, work very accurately and cross-check key statements in response to a query three times. Independent studies and scientific tests (e.g., from Stanford University ) confirm this, and minor errors are more likely to occur in secondary aspects, such as an incorrect day of the week for a historical event, etc.


Therefore, I have no doubt that the research regarding you and AskG is correct; everything now makes sense. Nevertheless, I still maintain that I will judge based on the facts , and these are verifiable.

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- As mentioned, sister casinos have unresolved complaints; this one, unlike other casinos, does not link them.

- Reviews are withheld

- The statement that a casino can simply change any basic rules without consent is bizarre.

Several casinos have a rating of 8.x here despite unresolved complaints in the five-figure range and more. This is despite, for example, 11 out of 12 1-star user reviews.

- 26 paid employees, solely for handling cases. No reputable company would cross-subsidize that with affiliate revenue; why would they collect complaints about the very people they profit from?


According to statements from AI


"One of the most frustrating experiences for users, which was also described in detail in the initial scenario, is the sudden withholding of negative reviews while a complaint is being filed. Casino.Guru officially legitimizes this practice by citing the need to protect platform integrity and the necessity of having the complaints team verify the facts before a review is made public."

The actual logic behind this policy, based on performance marketing, is purely financial. Negative user reviews, especially well-founded ones prominently displayed at the top of the casino profile's homepage, destroy the conversion rate. If a new, potential player is searching for a casino on Casino.Guru, about to click the affiliate link, and at the same moment reads a toxic, detailed warning from a scammed user, the registration process is abandoned. Casino.Guru loses the CPA commission (150-400 euros) or future revenue shares at that moment.

By automatically moderating negative reviews to "withheld" status, they are removed from public view while the complaint process is underway. Since complex complaints often take weeks or even months, the casino's profile remains "clean" during this critical phase. The casino can then continue to acquire new customers undisturbed through Casino.Guru's affiliate links.


Should the casino finally yield to pressure after weeks and pay the player their rightful winnings, the case is marked as "resolved." The player receives psychological satisfaction and is often pressured to let the matter drop. The initial frustration, the warnings about the systematic stalling tactics, and the psychological stress caused by the casino often don't even make it into public reviews. This form of censorship through procedural delay effectively protects the operators' business flow and mirrors precisely the premium services that companies use on platforms like Trustpilot to suppress critical voices.



They are understandable and one immediately agrees.


If you have some time, please take a private look at the facts Gemini lists using Translate before repeating common statements that AI is inaccurate (yes, the usual ones that immediately provide answers to everything). I think it makes little sense to simply say it's not true.


Thank you very much if you will objectively review the matter again and try to convince the casino that such a thing destroys its reputation, including that of all sister casinos; no agency that is supposed to monitor such things can help anymore.

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Dear hugbearli,

Thank you for your cooperation and for providing all the necessary information. I truly appreciate the time and effort you’ve taken to share everything with us so far.

Your complaint will now move to the next stage of our process and be handled by your dedicated Resolver, Michal (michal.k@casino.guru). This is a standard step in our procedure, as the Resolver will take over communication with the casino directly and manage your case from this point onward.

No action is required from you right now. Your Resolver will reach out through this thread if any additional details are needed. You can rest assured that your case is in very capable hands.

I wish you the best of luck and hope your case will be resolved to your satisfaction soon.

Kind regards,

Attila


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Hello hugbearli,

My name is Michal, and I have now taken over your complaint. I have reviewed your case, and I will contact the casino to shed more light on this matter and to see if I can help somehow. Just to check, when you registered in Vivaspin Casino and claimed the bonuses, which language version of the casino webpage did you use, since the emails with the bonus offers are written in English language and the casino has this in their bonus terms and conditions:

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While it is indeed debatable if this bonus offer was really so interesting as it might appear at the beginning, it is always important to remember that it is solely up to you, just like with any other player, whether you accept/claim the offer or not. As my colleague Atilla correctly mentioned, casinos try to design their bonuses to be as attractive as possible; however, setting a maximum win/cash-out limit for bonus winnings is very common in the industry. Bonuses essentially serve as complementary funds from the casino to enjoy the games or enhance gameplay with the potential to win a certain amount. I completely understand that one of the primary reasons for participating in the casino is the chance to win; however, it is crucial to keep in mind that the main objective of the casino and the bonuses is "entertainment."

This being said, I will reach out to the casino to confirm ot course of events and which publicly available rules were in place when you claimed the bonuses, and in accordance with which established rules have your bonus winnings been adjusted.

We would now like to invite Vivaspin Casino to join this conversation.



Dear Vivaspin Casino,

Could you kindly provide clarification regarding the course of events and clarify in accordance with which publicly available rules the player's bonus winnings were capped?

If there are any additional factors influencing this situation that cannot be shared publicly, please feel free to share them directly with me at michal.k@casino.guru.


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Dear Michal,


I wonder (to be honest but polite) why the complaint isn't deleted or closed? Your response already reveals a clear bias, which only confirms what I've already stated.


You are right that bonuses are for entertainment purposes. What does this have to do with the fact that, like any company, the casino sets rules (terms, bonus conditions), and no reputable company can change these without the user's consent? Every reputable casino asks after login whether you accept the new conditions, for example.


Would you find it fair if you were playing the classic lottery and were offered the option to fill out twice as many fields on your first game, but the winnings were limited to, say, 20x your stake? Then, if you won and the lottery company told you, "Oh sorry, you can only receive your original stake"?

Honestly, the fact that you didn't even address this in your answer simply confirms that the AI ​​is completely right in its statements.


If the casino ever responds (because you requested it after the grace period expired), it's predictable how the complaint will end. They will claim they haven't changed anything and will reject all my logical arguments.

(Checked 10 times, without exception ALL sister casinos that have a 10x limit, 10x limit in ALL other languages ​​of the bonus terms and conditions, the other user who posted EXACTLY the same thing here) would be completely disregarded. Each of the arguments mentioned is so compelling on its own that it would be sufficient proof for a neutral platform to believe the customer rather than the casino.

Even if you had a screenshot showing the date and PC time, it wouldn't be enough for you because the time can be changed, etc. – in fact, you'll always find something to reject it on. So again, why don't you just close or delete the complaint?


I will report objectively on TrustPilot and in some Telegram groups as well as in the GambleBase forum (this is one of the few neutral, privately owned platforms; thepogg was also one, but like LCB it has long since been taken over and is no longer independent).

With the help of AI, I've also discovered that Curacao casinos are now required by licensing regulations to offer an ADR system provider, which doesn't help me here at vivaspin. But it clearly demonstrates what happens when a complaint is handled neutrally – one of my recent complaints was also dismissed by you as unfounded (one of the Stable Tech casinos), yet this company's casinos operate under one of the new Curacao licenses. Nowhere on Casino Guru can you find any information about casinos under this new LOK license having various obligations regarding ownership, etc., and also having to offer an ADR. So I informed the Curacao regulatory authority that Stable Tech is violating its licensing obligations and opened an ADR account with one of the five accredited services, mentioning that my complaint was simply dismissed here and that I wasn't given any opportunity to respond to alleged evidence. After a few days, and after the ADR got involved, the complaint was resolved and I received my money - since it was unfounded here with you.


So, I can only reiterate that you either remain neutral here or please close this thread; anything else is pointless. Thank you very much.

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Dear hugbearli,

Thank you for your response. I appreciate the time and effort you’ve taken to share your perspective.

I want to clarify that Casino Guru provides its complaint resolution services free of charge to all players. Our conclusions are reached only after carefully reviewing all available information and evidence, and always in accordance with our internal Complaint Resolution Policy and our Fair Gambling Codex. We aim to ensure fairness, transparency, and consistency for both players and operators, and our decisions are based solely on the evidence at hand.

While we understand that you may disagree with our findings, our role as a independent dispute mediator is not to take sides but to review the matter based on our principles, fairnes in an impartial manner. Allegations of bias are taken seriously; however, our process is guided by documented evidence, verified facts, and the standards we uphold in fair gambling practices.

If you believe that another dispute resolution service might more effectively address your concerns, you are certainly welcome to explore those alternatives. While we take pride in having established a reputable "authority" status in the industry over the years, which reflects significant hard work from our side, our platform is just one of many available, and players are welcome to seek support through other avenues. Furthermore, in cases where we are unable to provide direct assistance, we strive to inform players about other options they may consider. Since we do not function as a licensing authority, our capacity to intervene can be limited as we lack the legal power to compel casinos to act in the same manner as a regulatory body would.

Please be assured that our goal is to maintain a fair, transparent, and professional environment for all parties, and we stand by the integrity of our complaint resolution process.

In my previous post, I provided my insight on the matter and the rules relevant to your situation, which I have found on the casino webpage, and at the same time reached out to the casino to obtain their position, which is part of our standard procedure.

This being said, if you feel there is no value in keeping this case open, kindly confirm, and I will proceed to close it so we can focus on assisting the thousands of other players who contact us for support each month.

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Hi Michael 🙂


I'm curious to know if and when the casino will respond and if my predictions are correct, so let's leave it open and wait the 3+7 days.


Like many other players, I have repeatedly appreciated your service here and found it to be excellent. Unfortunately, this doesn't change my arguments, which I already made regarding Atila, and which you haven't refuted. It's obvious, really; how can you refute the fact that, for example, certain casinos have red ratings, while sister casinos have black ratings, but this one, unlike others, doesn't? Or that some casinos, despite having black ratings and, for example, ten 1-star user reviews, are rated above 8, etc.

Everything is factually visible if one looks for it and is irrefutable.


Unfortunately, you don't offer the case system in two options: free and paid premium. I've asked about this several times in the case reviews and via email because I find a 5-star Trustpilot rating insufficient considering your effort. But then again, it makes sense why you employ expensive staff for this, and it's not because you like all your users.

As I said before, Casino.Guru is still one of the best and more reputable affiliates in a market where 90% are disreputable, and I don't dispute that. However, I don't find their transparency and neutrality optimal, considering everything mentioned. But of course, that's just one insignificant user opinion. 🙂


I wish you a wonderful and relaxing Easter with your family and friends who are hopefully with you 🙂

David

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Hey Hugbearli


Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention.


For privacy, security, and data protection reasons, we’re unable to discuss or comment on individual player accounts or specific cases via public forums.


To ensure your case is reviewed properly and securely, we kindly ask you to contact our VIP Support team directly at vip@vivaspin.com with your registered account. They will be able to look into your situation in detail and provide you with the appropriate assistance.


We appreciate your understanding and cooperation.


VivaSpin Managment

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Hello,


Ah okay, very strange... I'll gladly write you a short message and allow the release/forwarding there.


David

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Dear Hugbearli,

Please let me know whether the casino team has addressed your issue and, if so, how it has been resolved.

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Hello Michal,


As soon as there is an update, I will post it without being asked.


Email from hu********* ar@gmail.com

To: vip@vivaspin.com

Date: April 3, 2026, 3:56 PM

Hello Igloo & sister companies,


They wrote:

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I hereby give my permission for them to use my data and politely request a fair solution and that you refrain from repeating the actions of your sister casinos :( I was recently so pleasantly surprised by Igloo Casinos, mentioning them in Telegram groups etc., but your actions here are truly unfair! :(



David



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April 6, 2026, 2:40 PM

Hey David,


Thank you for reaching out to us.


We have received your message and are now reviewing this internally. We will let you know as soon as we have thoroughly reviewed your messages. We would also like to clarify that we are an independent casino and have no affiliation with other casinos, including the ones you referred to as "sister casinos." All decisions and processes on our platform are handled separately.

Best regards

VivaSpin Management





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To be honest, I don't know if this is the (in my opinion) famous AI that casinos in this group use. It's really good, it thinks things through, etc., but in my view, it's not suitable for complaints or more complex cases. I certainly believe they're capable of having simple things like your complaint request automatically reviewed, understood, and responded to by this AI. But either way, I don't know what the casino needs to review here, and why it took three days to respond to this "update."

If one now examines

- How to access the website, find the terms and conditions, and what they say?

- Which of your AI agents is so amateurish and forgets to regenerate terms and conditions for all language versions when they change them?



In any case, there will certainly be no "We are sorry. We have checked our systems and due to an error, you were not asked to agree to the new terms and conditions. Regardless, even if you had agreed, this change would only have applied to deposits made from that point onwards. In the interest of customer satisfaction, we will correct the matter and credit you the difference of 417 euros."


Oh shoot, it was just April 1st - the Vivaspin AI/support missed an opportunity to post this, ideally with a "Please wait for our update here tomorrow" where they then reveal that it was of course just a joke and I should go back to dreaming 😉



As I said, please excuse my little morning comments. I'll post as soon as the casino finally says they "can't" do anything *cough*. If I don't hear from them, I won't post an update, but you can be sure that for me, it's fair play to reply and keep you informed. I keep reading about other people's cases here and it really gets me worked up every time I see how rude and vague most people's posts are, and then, as soon as the casino resolves the issue, they don't even post an update here about getting their money back or leaving reviews on TP. But unfortunately, that's just how people are—they want everything and can't even offer a simple thank you. It would only take two clicks here (click the email link and then click "Solved" at the bottom), but apparently, a huge number of people don't even have the decency to thank you for the free service. Of course, the money's in their account, so why should these users care if you have to follow up three times? The same applies to negative reviews; it's scientifically undisputed that people primarily post them for negative things – why would they for good service at fair prices, it doesn't benefit them at all, whereas I can fairly say that at least 65% of my over 100 reviews on Tristpilot are 4 or 5 stars.

David


PS: I'm always amused by how much the operator of certain casinos (often long-established ones) tries to remain anonymous. I assume you would have criticized the casino here for its unknown license/ownership if it hadn't disclosed this information to you. Also, this casino software is only used by you. If that's not enough, just go to your live chat and the live chat of one of the supposedly unrelated companies and ask the chat agent why they have the same name in both chats 😉 Or why credit card charges and withdrawals come from the same sender and payment processor as with other casinos, etc. ... They can play the "We're independent" game, and it's possible that, for example, the Dama casinos have separate management structures, but at the end of the day, the owner is still the same. I always wonder about things like this: do they assume all their customers are that stupid? I feel like I'm being taken for a fool.

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Dear Hugbearli,

Thank you for your update. I will await any further developments and remain hopeful for a positive outcome.

I also acknowledge your additional remarks—you’ve raised some valid points. However, as they do not appear to be directly related to this case, they may be better suited for discussion on our forum rather than within this complaint thread. That said, I will leave them here for now.



Dear VivaSpin Management,

We are looking forward to your appropriate and timely addressing the matter with the player.

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We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.

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The casino wrote to me today - oh please don't be surprised ;o)




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I then accepted that I had to chalk it up to experience and finally wrote the following personal, yet polite words to these people.




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From the perspectives discussed at the beginning of the case,


Even if I had 12 hours of PC recordings from deposit to withdrawal showing the bonus conditions, you would always find something to defend your clients, er, certain casinos.

The company is hiding, but it's quite clear that it's Igloo, because only they use this software, due to the payment providers that process the payments.

There was already another case here where the user experienced the same thing.

All nearly 30 of the company's casinos and all translations from 10x talking

and all the other things



A small user like myself has to accept that he can't do anything here if the casino doesn't have a reputable license with ADR service like the new Curacao licenses or reputable European licenses like Malta, England, etc., and that the times when you stood up for fair play are unfortunately over for many players in the market.




I must give you credit for not deleting anything here so far, but that's probably because few people read these complaints due to the sheer number of cases. But the fact that you seriously insist on making a neutral decision here (we're all adults and, as mentioned in the email to the casino, have a completely different problem) when any neutral person reading this can see that the evidence against me, even considered individually, is already incriminating – all of this together is a thousand times clear.




Well, ultimately it turned out as expected, and there's at least one positive aspect: thanks to your colleague's response to this clear case, I was able to do some research, and I'm no longer surprised by certain things here, as I was recently, but can now understand the well-documented background. We all know here that individual cases like mine are acceptable to you as long as you maintain the appearance of neutrality. Of course, once a customer has a problem with one of your top-rated casinos and discovers that so many mysteriously have a rating above 8 despite dozens of negative user reviews, that casino will drop. But naturally, you also know that this will always remain a minority, because it mainly involves new users who have never played online before, and besides, very few will actually have the problem of being cheated because they were already at zero on the slots.




Just one last clarification, as I've stated several times: Certain things are understandable to me, and Casino.Guru is still one of the better platforms among all these sites, which says a lot about this industry. I'm convinced that no one on your team is malicious or greedy and therefore protects such casinos – but I would at least appreciate it if you would communicate privately with a user like me (via email) instead of lying to him and pretending his statements aren't correct, even though, as I've said repeatedly, every user can verify these facts and simply needs to look at how many casinos from this company have negative ratings here at vivaspin, yet this one is still rated so highly, while other companies that don't partner with you are consistently and rightly all downgraded.




As described, I will close this case myself. By not publishing further reviews based on verifiable experiences like mine, other users will remain unwarned, but this isn't the first or last time.


Sincerely

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1 week ago

We'd like to inform everyone following this case that the player has marked this complaint as resolved using the dedicated button.

Dear hugbearli,

We are pleased to hear that your issue has been resolved. We will mark the complaint as 'Resolved' in our system. Thank you for your cooperation and confirmation. If you experience any future issues with this or any other casino, please don’t hesitate to reach out to our Complaint Resolution Center. We are here to assist you.

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Thank you in advance for your time and feedback.

Best regards,


Michal

Casino Guru

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