HomeComplaintsVulkan Vegas Casino - The player's self exclusion request was ignored.

Vulkan Vegas Casino - The player's self exclusion request was ignored.

Amount: €254,782

Vulkan Vegas Casino
Safety Index:Very high
Submitted: 14 Jul 2022 | Resolved : 22 Sep 2022
Resolved Our verdict

Case closed

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Case summary

2 years ago

The player's self exclusion request was ignored as he refused to verify himself. The case was successfully resolved.

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2 years ago
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Hello,

I registered at Vulkan Vegas a few months ago and played a bit there. Since I have a major gambling problem, I've also been in therapy for about 2 years.


Wanting and needing to protect myself, I asked Vulkan Vegas to permanently ban my account. That was in April 2022. Since I didn't find the option to set it up myself in the "My Account" section, I contacted the chat and asked there to block my account forever. The answer was just "You need to verify your account first". But I shouldn't, I just wanted to block my account.


I also received the same information via email. I then contacted an employee again via chat and was very angry. Two hours later I replied to the email I received and politely said that they should suspend my account as I have a gambling problem and am also in therapy for that reason. To date I have not received a reply to this email.


I kept getting more letters/advertisements for playing at Vulkan. I didn't play for a few months and I was doing really well. Then my VIP contact at Vulkan sent me an email where she offered me free no deposit credit. I ignored this email. But about 2 weeks later, in a really weak moment, I accepted the offer. That was the beginning of the end again.


Within a few days, I deposited whatever I had available anywhere. The casino hadn't blocked my account till date even though they knew about my gambling problem.


From my point of view, Vulkan used my gambling addiction to enrich themselves. I have now tried to come to an agreement with the casino but they refer me to their terms and conditions (which I believe I have complied with) and that they allegedly were unaware of my gambling addiction.


The behavior of the casino is absolutely unethical and disrespectful. They act like gambling addiction doesn't exist and they didn't know what I was doing. In my view, the casino behaved completely immorally and now refuses any refund claims. They obviously want to keep the money by any means necessary. So a jackpot for the casino.

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2 years ago

Hello leo174402,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and I'm really sorry to hear about your issue with Vulkan Vegas Casino. Please allow me to ask you a few more question before we would move forward.

Could you please advise if you have ever mentioned that you have gambling problems or addiction to the casino? Why didn't you verify your account when they asked you for it? How did you expect the casino to block you if you did not verify your account as without your personal details they do not know who to block? Can you please confirm that the dispute amount is correct?

Looking forward to your answer.

Regards,

Nick

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Hello,

I responded again via live chat after receiving the email, where I was admittedly quite angry. I just wanted Vulkan Vegas to block my account! I didn't know why I had to go through the complicated verification process. About two hours later I also sent an email to the casino, who also asked for the ban but never got a response back. The account was only blocked 1-2 days ago after I gambled the said amount and then filed a complaint with the casino.


The casino now claims they were not aware of any gambling addiction, problem gambling behavior. But that's not true. First, I made that very clear in my email. Second, casino staff are (or should be) trained in responsible gambling. The desire for self-exclusion is always a warning indicator, especially when it is requested several times. Thirdly, if I suddenly increase my gaming behavior so immensely that I deposit 10,000, 20,000 and more in one day, this draws attention from the casino. Fourth, if I won €50,000 or €90,000, I gambled that amount away. This also caught the eye of a live chat agent who said I should withdraw more often when I win, that's his tip to me.


Simply because of anti-money laundering regulations, they must watch out for players who deposit $10,000 (or equivalent value in other currency) within a short period of time.


In short: the casino knew about my problematic gaming behavior one way or the other. They watched me deposit and gamble that amount within a few days. Even though the casino was clearly aware of my gambling addiction, they didn't ban me.


Now the casino refuses to come up with a solution.

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2 years ago
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Hello,


yes, the dispute is correct. I have bank statements that I can provide at any time. (How can I upload these without them being published?)

Yes, I mentioned gambling addiction very clearly. However, the casino is now denying this point.

The casino does not require verification for a self-ban. You can do that without it.

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I also find it exciting that the casino is now saying I would be compensated if they could show that I disclosed that I had a gambling addiction during my self-exclusion request. Firstly, I did, and secondly, even international studies have shown that 95% of all people who want to ban themselves are affected by problem gaming. So the casino acts as if the wish to self-ban has nothing to do with problematic gaming behavior. That's remarkable! This means: Basically, the casino is aware that every person who asks for a self-ban is doing so for one reason: because they have problems with gambling, i.e. gambling addiction.


Here is the link to the study: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214782920301202#bb0130


1.2. Who self excludes and does it work?

VSE programs have been evaluated empirically in a small number of studies ( McCormick et al., 2018 ; Gainsbury, 2014 ; Verlik, 2008 ). Many of these investigations were not rigorous pre-post evaluations, but rather self-report surveys or interviews with previously excluded gamblers, analyzes of excluded rosters, and epidemiological evaluations (eg Croucher and Croucher, 2006 ; Nower and Blaszczynski, 2008 ; Schrans et al ., 2004 ; for a comprehensive list, see Gainsbury, 2014 ). According to these studies, individuals who self-exclude tend to be Caucasian and middle-aged (36 to 55 years) with an approximately equal use of VSE among men and women ( Nower and Blaszczynski, 2008 ). As many as 95% of them meet criteria for disordered gambling at the time of self-exclusion ( Ladouceur et al., 2000 ). On average, people in this group gamble for 7 to 17 years before making the decision to self-exclude, with older adults (56–79) gambling for a significantly longer period before committing to VSE. The top reasons for seeking self-exclusion cited by the gamblers are gaining control over gambling, needing help, and hitting rock bottom. In addition, older adults also endorse suicide prevention as a primary reason for seeking VSE ( Nower and Blaszczynski, 2008 ).

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2 years ago

Dear leo174402,

Please forward the initial request sent to the casino to nikolas.b@casino.guru together with all the relevant proof.

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2 years ago
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Hello,

I have sent the requested documents by email.

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2 years ago

Thank you leo174402 for all the information. I will now forward your complaint to my colleague Jozef who will be assisting you from now on.

Wish you best luck resolving it.

Regards,

Nick

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2 years ago

Hi leo174402,

I absolutely appreciate that you shared your experiences with the Casino Guru team. We will now try to get in touch with the casino.

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2 years ago

Hello Jozef,

Can you please provide your e-mail address?


Thank you in advance!


Kind regards

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2 years ago

Hi,

of course, jozef.k@casino.guru.

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2 years ago

Dear leo174402,

I have just been informed by the casino representative that this issue is being investigated by the authority. Therefore, we’re not able to proceed with the further investigation or suggest possible solutions till they finish. Please, inform us about the outcome of their decision. I will now close the case as 'waiting for regulator'.

Best regards, Jozef

jozef.k@casino.guru

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2 years ago

Hello there,


I’ve reopened this complaint as per the player’s request. Leo174402, informed us that this case was successfully resolved. Therefore, I am closing the case accordingly.


Best regards, Jozef


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