Kysymys rahapelisivustoista, joilla on Curaçaon lisenssi ja joissa käytetään väärää kauppiasluokkakoodia (sivu 120)

Lars lol he thinks we are idiots he's a bloody idiot ecogra is the independent gaming testing that by law online sites have to use to test their games for fairness nothing to do with the UK ADR disputes Lol.. So when the casino says that all games are independently tested games are random generated this is one of the main and actually the most trusted companies to verify the are not rigged. It was just odd that this person also posted to confirm that lars helped with a refund but only had 1 post at the time smh. This guy must think people are idiots

You were actually right. His account has been banned for breaching our policies.

have you used their contact page on the website? I filled in the form and eventually got an email back. They requested my documents which i sent over but been quiet now for two weeks.

Thanks for this.

I will go back to them.

They seem to be ignoring my emails at the minute.

They requested my ID and so now. Will see what will happen there.

Where is the company locatied?

I emailed them again but they say it was my responsibility to check terms and conditions before signing up.

I can't find a website for any of the merchants where the deposits went.

Did you contact that bank? Is it bilderlings?

I’ve had op payments too I didn’t know they were taking payments from the UK, who do I contact

As far as I know, Payop is based in Canada and they are on Payop's heels because of gambling payments. It was a few pages back in this post.

However, from previous experience with the provider, I can tell you that they initially communicate that they want to investigate the case, etc. Then they come up with the excuse that they only provide the platform. There is no money, and then communication stops.

And if you complain to a financial supervisory authority outside of the Euro, you are usually not taken seriously, you are referred to the financial supervisory authority in your own country, but this is not responsible because the payment service is not registered in your own country and processes the payments illegally. Nobody is responsible 😉

Soweit ich weiß sitzt Payop in Canada, und man ist Payop auf den Fersen wegen den Glücksspielzahlungen. Stand ein paar Seiten zurück hier im Beitrag.

Aus früheren Erfahrungen mit dem Anbieter kann ich dir jedoch sagen, dass dieser Anfangs kommuniziert, man möchte den Fall prüfen blablabla. Dann kommt jedoch die Ausrede wir stellen nur die Plattform bereit. Geld gibts keines anschließend wird die Kommunikation eingestellt.

Und wenn man sich außerhalb von Euro bei einer Finanzaufischt beschwert, wird man in der Regel nicht ernst genommen, man wird auf die Finanzaufsicht des eigenen Landes verwiesen, diese ist jedoch nicht zuständig, weil der zahlungsdienst sich nicht im eigenen Land registriert hat, und illegal die zahlungen abwickelt. Niemand ist verantwortlich 😉

What does the payment show as on your bank statement does it say it goes to a gaming site or something suss? Mine went to a dating and escorts service infinity. Double check as this is MISCODING. Then write back to them with a copy of their own terms and conditions which clearly states that they can not except players from the UK.

I told them it is their responsibility when players from restricted countries enter their details they should by law block those players from joining their site as set out in their own terms and conditions

Also they are operating without any valid license as non is visable anywhere on their website if your funds are not returned you are going to report them to the FSCS and the Ukgc also cyber money laundering for using 3rd party merchants to obtain funds as this is highly illegal. Did they try numerous attempts to take different amounts of funds out of your account using different merchants too as that's what they did to me after 1st initial deposit luckily my bank flagged them I have had to cancel my card just check your bank account for suspicious payments

I can tell you from experience that banks do not return money without obtaining the recipient's prior approval; they have to act that way. Imagine if I simply asked your bank whether they would return the money I transferred to me. That is banking law, and they act accordingly. They only give anything away if ordered by the authorities or by a court ruling.

Ich kann dir aus Erfahrung sagen, dass die Banken keine Gelder zurücksenden ohne die vorherige Genehmigung der Empfänger einzuholen, die müssen so handeln. Stell dir mal vor, ich frag einfach bei deiner Bank an, ob sie mir das überwiesene Geld zurückschicken. Das ist Bankrecht, die Handeln halt danach. Nur auf behördlicher Anordnung oder ein Gerichtsurteil rücken die was raus.

Payop sent back three times the amount and a bouquet of flowers. The answer is above your question.

Payop hat das dreifache und einen Blumenstrauß zurückgeschickt. Die antwort steht über deiner Frage.

I think you should leave this thread, you have no empathy for others. I understand you’re trying to give over factual information, but you are forgetting why you are on this thread in the first place. Be kind

I'm nice, sometimes just a bit sarcastic 😉

Before I wrote my first contribution here, I read through 72 pages, always the same questions, if you only read what you want to read, then you shouldn't be surprised by answers like these, some things have already been bought eight times.

Credit card chargeback = With the goodwill of the bank, there is no master solution

SPEA transfer Open banking = Almost impossible, with the goodwill of the payment service and casino.

No payment will be released by a bank just like that because of the known problem. If the bank wants to, they will ask the recipient if they can do it, otherwise, tough luck.

In some cases I know that the bank and the sender of the money make a confidential agreement, so those who have signed such an agreement should be careful about posting it here if they have signed such an agreement. The same applies to an agreement with a casino!

You should also understand the following:

The enemy is reading along!

Ich bin nett, manchmal nur etwas sarkastisch 😉

Bevor ich hier meinen ersten Beitrag geschrieben habe, habe ich mir 72 Seiten durchgelesen, immer wieder die selben Fragen, wenn man immer nur das liest was man lesen will, dann darf man sich über solche antworten nicht wundern, manches wird hier bereits 8x durchgekauft.

Kreditkarten Chargeback = Mit guten willen der Bank, da gibt es keine Masterlösung

SPEA-Überweisung Open-Banking = Nahezu unmöglich, mit guten willen eventuell des Zahlungsdienstes und Kasino.

Keine Zahlung wird einfach so von einer Bank freigegeben wegen dem Bekannten Problem. Wenn die Bank lust hat, fragt sie dem Empfänger ob sie es dürfen, ansonsten pech.

In einigen Fällen ist mir bekannt, dass die Bank zusammen mit dem Absender des Geldes eine Vereinbarung trifft unter Stillschweigen, deshalb sollten diejenigen die soetwas unterschrieben haben, vorsichtig sein sowas hier zu posten, wenn sie solch eine vereinbarung unterschrieben haben. Gleiches gilt für eine Vereinbarung mit einem Kasino!

Folgendes sollte man auch noch verstehen:

Der Feind liest mit !

I needed to hear this, thank you

Has anyone ever found a contact for Zinzipay?

Zinzipay is just a website that links ‘fake’ merchants to your casino deposit to avoid the correct merchant code.

I doubt that you will find a transaction referwnce with ZinziPay.

They are linked to Bazpay but they just ignore you and refuse to reply

Anyone got LINGOM*RED that’s the only one I can’t find anything about.

Update on my experience

All the merchants have stopped replying to my emails and there is no further communication.

After escalating my disputes with my bank, they have informed me they cannot continue with the dispute for a lack of evidence. However, they’ve offered to refund me 25% of the funds to keep the relationship with the bank. Has anyone encountered this? They say they need to abide by Mastercard schemes to initiate a chargeback, is falsifying merchant codes enough to start a chargeback? Should I email them back with the Mastercard policy and negotiate the amount?