Rakas Appelsiini,
Kiitos yksityiskohtaisesta vastauksestasi ja lisäkuvakaappauksista. Ymmärrämme todella, kuinka pettymykseltä tämä tilanne tuntuu, varsinkin kun olet voittanut niin merkittävän jättipotin ja täyttänyt koko kierrätysvaatimuksen.
Tarkasteltuamme huolellisesti kaikki jakamasi tiedot, meidän on valitettavasti todettava, että kasino näyttää toimineen bonusehtojensa mukaisesti:
BONUSPELIEN käyttöä on mahdollista rajoittaa tietyissä peleissä, joissa on jättipotti (progressiivinen tai paikallinen jättipotti), joko kyseisissä peleissä yleisesti tai vain kyseisen pelin jättipotin voittamisen osalta.
19. Osallistujan pelitililleen saatava enimmäismäärä on rajoitettu 150 000 denaariin riippumatta bonuksen tai bonuspelin kautta saadun summan koosta ja bonussaldon hyvittämisestä.
Vahvistit, että jättipotti voitettiin talletusbonuksen ollessa aktiivinen. Tällaisissa tapauksissa kaikkia bonuspelien aikana syntyneitä voittoja – riippumatta siitä, tulevatko ne tavallisista pyöräytyksistä vai ohjelmisto-/progressiivisesta jättipotista – käsitellään tyypillisesti bonusvoittoina. Tämä tarkoittaa, että niihin sovelletaan edelleen bonusehtoja, mukaan lukien mahdolliset enimmäiskonversio- tai enimmäisnostorajat.
Vaikka ymmärrämme argumenttisi, jonka mukaan jackpotin rahoittaa palveluntarjoaja ja se tuntuu erilaiselta kuin tavallinen voitto, teknisestä ja sopimuksellisesta näkökulmasta ratkaisevaa on, että voitto on syntynyt aktiivisen bonuspelin aikana. Bonuksella pelatessaan pelaajat hyväksyvät, että kaikkiin voittoihin sovelletaan bonusehtoja.
Olemme samaa mieltä siitä, että se saattaa tuntua epäreilulta, varsinkin kun järjestelmä salli koko jättipottisumman kierrättämisen ja asetti ylärajan vasta kierrätysvaatimusten täyttämisen jälkeen. Tämä mekanismi on kuitenkin yleinen monissa nettikasinoissa – bonussaldo voi kasvaa yli maksimimuunnosrajan pelin aikana, mutta yläraja asetetaan oikeaksi rahaksi muuntamisen hetkellä.
Käytettävissä olevien todisteiden ja sen tosiasian perusteella, että jättipotti voitettiin aktiivisen bonuspelin aikana, emme näe perusteita vaatia kasinoa maksamaan täyttä summaa, joka ylittää ilmoitetun bonusmuunnosten enimmäismäärän.
Ymmärrämme, ettei tämä ole toivomasi lopputulos, ja olemme todella pahoillamme, ettemme voi auttaa tässä tapauksessa enempää. Jos päätät pelata bonuksilla tulevaisuudessa, suosittelemme vahvasti tarkistamaan etukäteen huolellisesti enimmäiskonversio-/nostorajat, erityisesti pelatessasi korkean varianssin tai jättipottipelejä.
Ystävällisin terveisin
Veronica
Dear Orange,
Thank you for your detailed reply and for providing the additional screenshots. We truly understand how disappointing this situation must feel, especially after hitting such a significant jackpot amount and completing the full wagering requirement.
After carefully reviewing all the information you shared, we unfortunately have to conclude that the casino appears to have acted in line with its bonus terms :
It is possible to limit the use of BONUS GAMES for certain games that include a jackpot (progressive or local jackpot), either for those games in general or only for winning the jackpot of the relevant game.
19. The maximum amount that the participant receives on his/her gaming account is limited to 150,000 denars, regardless of the size of the amount received through a game with a bonus or through a bonus game and regardless of the crediting of the bonus balance.
You confirmed that the jackpot was won while a deposit bonus was active. In such cases, all winnings generated during bonus play – regardless of whether they come from regular spins or from a software/progressive jackpot – are typically treated as bonus winnings. This means they remain subject to the bonus conditions, including any maximum conversion or maximum withdrawal limits.
While we understand your argument that a jackpot is funded by the provider and feels different from a standard win, from a technical and contractual standpoint, the decisive factor is that the win occurred during active bonus play. When playing with a bonus, players accept that all resulting winnings are governed by the bonus terms.
We agree that it may feel unfair, especially since the system allowed the full jackpot amount to be wagered and only applied the cap after completion of wagering. However, this mechanism is common in many online casinos – the bonus balance can grow beyond the maximum conversion limit during play, but the cap is applied at the moment of conversion to real money.
Based on the available evidence and the fact that the jackpot was won during active bonus play, we do not see grounds to require the casino to pay the full amount beyond the stated maximum bonus conversion limit.
We understand this is not the outcome you were hoping for, and we are truly sorry we cannot be of more help in this case. If you decide to play with bonuses in the future, we strongly recommend carefully reviewing the maximum conversion/withdrawal limits beforehand, especially when playing high-variance or jackpot games.
Best regards
Veronica
Dear Orange,
Thank you for your detailed reply and for providing the additional screenshots. We truly understand how disappointing this situation must feel, especially after hitting such a significant jackpot amount and completing the full wagering requirement.
After carefully reviewing all the information you shared, we unfortunately have to conclude that the casino appears to have acted in line with its bonus terms:
Можно е да се ограничи употребата на БОНУС ИГРИ за одредени игри во кои е вклучен џек пот (прогресивен или локален џекпот), така за тие игри во општо или само за освојување на џек потот на соодветната игра.
19. Максималниот износ што учесникот го добива на својота сметка за играње е ограничен на 150 000 денари, независно од големината на добиениот износ преку игра со бонус или преку бонус игра и независно од кредитирањето на бонус-балансот.
You confirmed that the jackpot was won while a deposit bonus was active. In such cases, all winnings generated during bonus play – regardless of whether they come from regular spins or from a software/progressive jackpot – are typically treated as bonus winnings. This means they remain subject to the bonus conditions, including any maximum conversion or maximum withdrawal limits.
While we understand your argument that a jackpot is funded by the provider and feels different from a standard win, from a technical and contractual standpoint, the decisive factor is that the win occurred during active bonus play. When playing with a bonus, players accept that all resulting winnings are governed by the bonus terms.
We agree that it may feel unfair, especially since the system allowed the full jackpot amount to be wagered and only applied the cap after completion of wagering. However, this mechanism is common in many online casinos – the bonus balance can grow beyond the maximum conversion limit during play, but the cap is applied at the moment of conversion to real money.
Based on the available evidence and the fact that the jackpot was won during active bonus play, we do not see grounds to require the casino to pay the full amount beyond the stated maximum bonus conversion limit.
We understand this is not the outcome you were hoping for, and we are truly sorry we cannot be of more help in this case. If you decide to play with bonuses in the future, we strongly recommend carefully reviewing the maximum conversion/withdrawal limits beforehand, especially when playing high-variance or jackpot games.
Best regards
Veronika
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