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The player from Ireland faced significant difficulties withdrawing funds from MrWest Casino, having requested a withdrawal three months prior. Despite providing multiple passport photos while following the casino's instructions for KYC, they continued to request new photos with unedited metadata. The player felt frustrated and claimed that this had been a recurring issue with the casino. Throughout the complaint process, the player remained cooperative, submitting all requested documents and even taking extra steps to address the casino’s concerns. However, the casino repeatedly rejected the documents without clear justification, and their continued insistence on minor technicalities appeared unreasonable. Despite our assessment that the submitted documents met the necessary clarity and verification standards, the casino refused to proceed with the withdrawal. As no further progress could be made and the casino maintained its position without providing a fair resolution, the complaint was ultimately closed as unresolved.
However, after extensive communication and mediation, the player eventually received their funds after a lengthy process. The player expressed gratitude towards the Complaints Team for their assistance but raised concerns about the casino's practices and the lack of warnings regarding their history on the platform. The Complaints Team acknowledged the player's experience and clarified that their evaluation of casinos was based on a range of factors, emphasizing the importance of operational practices over subjective experiences.
Igrač iz Irske se suočio sa značajnim poteškoćama prilikom povlačenja sredstava iz kazina MrWest, nakon što je zatražio povlačenje tri meseca ranije. Uprkos tome što je dostavio više fotografija za pasoš dok je pratio uputstva kazina za KYC, nastavio je da zahteva nove fotografije sa neizmenjenim metapodacima. Igrač se osećao frustrirano i tvrdio je da je ovo bio stalni problem sa kazinom. Tokom procesa žalbe, igrač je ostao sarađivao, podnoseći sva tražena dokumenta i čak preduzimajući dodatne korake kako bi se obratio zabrinutostima kazina. Međutim, kazino je više puta odbijao dokumenta bez jasnog obrazloženja, a njihovo kontinuirano insistiranje na manjim tehničkim detaljima delovalo je nerazumno. Uprkos našoj proceni da dostavljena dokumenta ispunjavaju neophodne standarde jasnoće i verifikacije, kazino je odbio da nastavi sa povlačenjem. Pošto nije bilo moguće postići dalji napredak i kazino je ostao pri svom stavu bez pružanja pravednog rešenja, žalba je na kraju zatvorena kao nerešena. Međutim, nakon opsežne komunikacije i posredovanja, igrač je na kraju dobio svoja sredstva nakon dugog procesa. Igrač je izrazio zahvalnost Timu za žalbe na njihovoj pomoći, ali je izrazio zabrinutost zbog prakse kazina i nedostatka upozorenja u vezi sa njegovom istorijom na platformi. Tim za žalbe je priznao iskustvo igrača i pojasnio da je njihova procena kazina zasnovana na nizu faktora, naglašavajući važnost operativnih praksi u odnosu na subjektivna iskustva.
MR Vest aka (Zapadni kazino – za koje sam otkrio da imaju istoriju ovoga i ostavljaju igrače van svog džepa).
Doživeo sam najgore iskustvo u životu sa bilo kojim kazinom koji pokušava da ostvari KIC. Dokaz adrese je verifikovan (fotografija snimljena mojim iPhone-om). Ali moj pasoš stalno traže fotografije snimljene sa neuređenim metapodacima (nisam znao šta je ovo).
Poslali smo ukupno oko 8 slika za pasoš. Juče sam sledio njihova uputstva. Snimio sam sliku, odmah postavio na sajt i imejl i poslao im e-poštu, a takođe sam napravio snimak ekrana informacija o fotografijama (metapodataka) na svom telefonu.
Danas su se ponovo vratili sa istim 'Novim slikama sa neuređenim metapodacima). To je besna. Poslao sam im vezu na mreži koja objašnjava svaki put kada otpremite sliku u imejl promene metapodataka. Pročitao sam stare pritužbe ovde i oni su to uradili veoma velikom broju igrača kao VEST CASINO ranije. Čak vidim da su izvedeni na sud.
Rekao sam da mogu da snimim video ako žele, ali oni me ignorišu.
Molim vas pomozite. Proslediću sve mejlove i fotografije koje sam napravio i poslao i CG će moći da pogleda metapodatke.
MR West aka (West Casino - Who I have discovered have a history of this and have left a wake of players out of pocket).
Having the worst experience of my life with any casino trying to KYC. Proof of address verified (Photo taken with my iphone). But my passport they keep asking for photos taken with unedited metadata (didn't know what this was).
Have sent in a total of about 8 passport pics. Yesterday I followed their instructions. I took the picture, uploaded immediately to the site and email and emailed them and also took a screenshot of the photos information (metadata) on my phone.
Again today they came back with the same 'New pics with unedited metadata). It's infuriating. I sent them a link online that explained whenever you upload a pic to an email metadata changes. I have read through old complaints on here and they did this to soooo many players as WEST CASINO before. I even see they were taken to court.
I have said I can do a video if they want but they ignore me.
Please help. I will forward all the emails and photos I have taken and sent them and CG can look at metadata.
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu i zaista mi je žao što čujem za vaš problem sa MrVest kazinom. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim još nekoliko pitanja pre nego što krenemo dalje.
Možete li molim vas da nam kažete od kada je tačno proces verifikacije u toku?
Koji dokumenti su već odobreni, a koji ne?
Kada ste poslednji put razgovarali sa kazinom i o čemu se radilo?
Imajte na umu da proces verifikacije može potrajati do 14 dana nakon slanja svih traženih dokumenata.
Radujem se vašem odgovoru.
pozdrav,
Nick
Hello sageirsword,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and I'm really sorry to hear about your issue with MrWest Casino. Please allow me to ask you a few more question before we would move forward.
Could you please advise since when exactly is the verification process ongoing?
Which documents have been already approved and which ones not?
When was the last time you spoke to the casino and what was it about?
Please note that the verification process may take up to 14 days after sending in all the requested documents.
Nema veze sa vremenskim ograničenjima. To je caisno koji namerno pokušava da koristi KIC kao metod odlaganja povlačenja. Nazovimo PIK POM.
1 – Nalog je u potpunosti verifikovan sa ličnim dokumentom, selfijem, dokazom adrese i skrilom.
2 - Osvojio sam 640 evra. Zatražio sam povlačenje.
3 - Odjednom mi je potrebna dodatna verifikacija (čudno da dalja verifikacija nije bila potrebna za deponovanje...). Njima treba DRUGI lični dokument i ja držim selfi sa dokumentom. Sve sam ovo poslao pošto imam drugi pasoš za Švedsku.
4 - Dobio sam ovu apsurdnu e-poštu -
Dragi igrače!
Hvala vam što ste dali jedinstvenu fotografiju.
Zbog sve većeg broja pokušaja prevare na internetu, nastojimo da primenimo sve moguće mere kako bismo očuvali sigurnost sredstava naših klijenata.
Da biste nastavili sa dodatnom procedurom verifikacije, snimite kratak video o samoidentifikacije uz svoj dokument (pasoš). Molimo pripremite svoj dokument i komad papira sa rukom ispisanim datumom snimanja i nazivom našeg proizvoda.
Stvari koje morate da uradite u videu:
1. Recite svoje puno ime i prezime, datum snimanja videa na prednjoj kameri i da je ovaj video posvećen dodatnom procesu verifikacije na sajtu naše kompanije.
2. Pokažite šta je oko vas, kako bismo se uverili da nema trećih lica u blizini.
3. Mahnite rukom ispred lica nekoliko sekundi da biste bili sigurni da ne koristite softver za uređivanje lica.
4. Pokažite da držite svoj dokument i papir sa današnjim datumom, imenom našeg proizvoda.
5. Da biste bili sigurni da je vaš dokument originalan, uklonite parče papira i pokažite dokument blizu kamere, rotirajući ga pod različitim uglovima kako bismo mogli da vidimo trepćuće holograme i vodene žigove na vašem dokumentu.
Srdačan pozdrav,
BetSofa odeljenje za verifikaciju
5 – Ja snimam video i šaljem sve. Takođe šaljem snimke ekrana koji pokazuju moj ID i nalog verifikovan preko SUMSUB-a (pošto svi znamo softver treće strane koji pokreće AI koji koristi 1000 preduzeća koji otkriva lažne dokumente). Ovo je bilo iz drugog kazina koji koristi SUMSUB.
Nema povlačenja i radio tišine. Znate kao i ja da se kazino ponaša neprikladno i samo zato što sam osvojio novac.
Its nothing to do with time limits. It's the caisno purposefully attempting to use KYC as a method of delaying the withdrawal. Let's call a SPADE a SPADE.
1 - Account was fully verified with ID, selfie, proof of address and skrill.
2 - I won €640. I requested the withdrawal.
3 - Suddenly I need further verification (odd the further verification wasn't required for depositing...). They need a SECOND ID document and me holding a selfie with the document. I sent all this as I have a second passport for sweden.
4 - I get this absurd email -
Dear Player!
Thank you for providing a unique photo.
Due to increasing fraud attempts on the internet, we are looking to enforce all possible measures to keep our customers’ funds secure.
In order for you to proceed with the additional verification procedure, please record a short self-identification video with your document (passport). Please prepare your document and a piece of paper with the handwritten date of recording and our product's name.
Things you must perform in the video:
1. Say your full name, date of recording the video on the front camera, and that this video is dedicated to the additional verification process on our company's website.
2. Show what is around you, so that we can make sure there are no third parties nearby.
3. Wave your hand in front of your face for several seconds to make sure you are not using any face-editing software.
4. Show yourself holding your document, and a paper with today's date our product's name.
5. To make sure your document is genuine, please remove a piece of paper and show your document close to the camera, rotating it at different angles so we can see blinking holograms and watermarks on your document.
Best Regards,
BetSofa Verification Department
5 - I do the video and send it all in. I also send screenshots showing my ID and account verified via SUMSUB (as we all know the AI powered third party software used by 1000's of businesses that detects fake documents). This was from a different casino that uses SUMSUB.
No withdrawal and radio silence. You know as well as I do the casino is acting inappropriately and only because I won money.
Drago mi je da čujem da je vaš problem sa gospodinom Vestom rešen.
Označiću žalbu kao rešenu.
Imajte na umu da ako imate problem sa drugim kazinom, morate da podnesete novu žalbu.
Kao što znate, ne naplaćujemo naše usluge, niti prihvatamo bakšiš. Međutim, bili bismo vam veoma zahvalni ako biste odvojili trenutak da podelite svoje iskustvo sa našim uslugama na Trustpilot-u https://www.trustpilot.com/evaluate/casino.guru . Vaša iskrena recenzija i svi predlozi za poboljšanje našeg procesa rešavanja žalbi i medijacije bili bi neprocenjivi. Vaše povratne informacije bi takođe mogle pomoći drugima koji razmišljaju da nas kontaktiraju za pomoć u vezi sa problemima vezanim za onlajn kazino.
Unapred vam hvala na vremenu.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Kazino Guru
Hello sageirsword,
I'm glad to hear that your issue with MrWest has been resolved.
I will be marking the complaint as resolved.
Please note that if you have an issue with a different casino, you have to submit a new complaint.
As you know, we do not charge for our services, nor do we accept any gratuities. However, we would greatly appreciate it if you could take a moment to share your experience with our services on Trustpilot https://www.trustpilot.com/evaluate/casino.guru. Your honest review and any suggestions for improving our complaint resolution and mediation process would be invaluable. Your feedback could also assist others who are considering contacting us for help with online casino-related issues.
Ponovo smo otvorili ovu žalbu na zahtev korisnika sageirsword. Želeli bismo da ovom slučaju pružimo još jednu šansu da se reši i pomognemo obema stranama da dođu do zadovoljavajućeg zaključka.
We’ve reopened this complaint at the request of sageirsword. We would like to allow this case one more chance to be resolved and help both parties involved to reach a satisfactory conclusion.
U prilogu je snimak ekrana svega što je poslednji put poslato.
Možete li mi poslati svoju imejl adresu kako bih vam prosledio video koji sam snimio preuzimajući izvod iz banke sa svog računa i otpremajući ga kako bih pokazao da nisu promenjeni metapodaci itd.
Attached is the screenshot of the everything last sent.
Can you send me your email so I can forward you the live video I took downloading the bank statement from my account and uploading to show no metadata etc was changed.
Molimo vas da komunikaciju između vas i kazina MrWest u vezi sa ovim slučajem prosledite na [email protected] kao i trenutno nemamo informacije šta kazino zahteva od vas.
Čekam vaš odgovor.
S poštovanjem,
Nik
Dear sageirsword,
Please forward the communication between you and MrWest casino related to this case to [email protected] as well as we have currently no information what is the casino requiring from you.
Ovo su tražili (ali sa ličnom kartom) pre nekoliko meseci. Morao sam da snimim video kako slikam i otpremam sliku na telefon zbog toga, a oni su stalno govorili da su „metapodaci" izmenjeni. Prihvatili su video i imao sam uplate i isplate. Takođe su prethodno verifikovali moj račun za komunalne usluge (to dobijam samo pošiljkom).
Zatim su tražili pdf računa ili izvoda iz banke.
Dakle, morao sam da snimim video koji prikazuje kako preuzimam izvod direktno iz banke, otpremam ga na imejl i šaljem.
This is what they requested (but with ID) months ago. I had to do a video of me taking the pic and uploading it on my phone for that as well as they kept saying 'metadata' was altered. They accepted the video and I had deposits and withdrawals. They had also previously verified my utility bill (I only get this posted).
They then asked for pdf of bill or bank statement.
So I have had to do the video showing me downloading the statement direct from my bank and uploading to email and sending.
Upravo su mi poslali ovaj imejl i ovo je bio moj odgovor.
Imejlovi postaju veoma kontradiktorni, skoro kao da ih šalju dve različite osobe. Takođe ne komentarišu koji dokaz o adresi je potreban, da li je moj izvod iz banke (sa video snimkom na kojem ga preuzimam) prihvaćen?
Nakon što su obavili još malo istraživanja, ova kompanija je stari „West Casino", bukvalno su izbačeni sa Malte i njihova MGA licenca je oduzeta zbog upravo ovog ponašanja!
They just sent me this email and this was my response.
The emails are becoming very conflicting, almost like they are being sent from two different people. They are also not commenting on which proof of address is needed, if my bank statement (with video of me downloading it) was accepted?
Having done some more research this company is the old 'West Casino' they were literally thown out of Malta and their MGA license revoked for this exact behaviour!
Takođe, zbog konteksta i da bih pokazao nivoe koje sam morao da prođem da bi mi ranije rekli da sam verifikovan, priložen je snimak ekrana na kojem snimam video kako slikam pasoš, a zatim ga direktno otpremam na imejl i šaljem na Zapad.
To je bilo zato što su stalno govorili da menjam metapodatke kada sam slikao. Što nisam menjao i nisam čak ni znao šta je to dok mi nisu rekli
Also for context and to show the levels I have had to go to previously be told I was veirfied, attached is screenshot of me doing a video of me taking a passport pic and then uploading it straight to email and sending to west.
This was because they kept saying I was changing the metadata when I took the picture. Which I was not and didn't even know what it was until they sai
Hvala sageirsword na svim informacijama koje si mi pružio. Sada ću proslediti tvoju žalbu kolegi Kubu ( [email protected] ) koji će vam od sada pomagati.
Želim vam puno sreće u rešavanju.
S poštovanjem,
Nik
Thank you sageirsword for all the information provided. I will now forward your complaint to my colleague Kubo ([email protected]) who will be assisting you from now on.
Drago mi je što smo se upoznali putem e-pošte. Zovem se Kubo i ja ću se baviti vašom žalbom ubuduće.
Ako je bilo nekih novosti ili dešavanja od vaše poslednje poruke, slobodno ih podelite sa mnom.
U skladu sa našom standardnom procedurom, želeo bih da pozovem predstavnika kazina MrWest da se pridruži ovom razgovoru. Njihovo učešće će pomoći da se obezbedi lakše i efikasnije rešavanje vašeg slučaja.
Poštovani gospodine Vest Kazino ,
Možete li ljubazno da pružite detaljne informacije u vezi sa problemom igrača? Konkretno, bio bih vam zahvalan ako biste mogli da razjasnite razloge kašnjenja u obradi verifikacije i povlačenja igrača.
Unapred hvala na saradnji i brzom odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Kubo
Dear sageirsword,
It’s a pleasure to e-meet you. My name is Kubo, and I’ll be handling your complaint moving forward.
If there have been any updates or new developments since your last message, please don’t hesitate to share them with me.
In accordance with our standard procedure, I’d like to invite a representative from MrWest Casino to join this conversation. Their participation will help ensure a smoother and more efficient resolution of your case.
Dear MrWest Casino,
Could you kindly provide detailed information regarding the player's issue? Specifically, I would appreciate it if you could clarify the reasons behind the delay in processing the player's verification and withdrawal.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation and prompt response.
Koliko ja vidim, kašnjenje je zbog činjenice da igrač ne sarađuje sa našim timom i ne dostavlja tražena dokumenta.
Za referencu, evo šta je traženo od igrača:
Fotografija novog dokumenta kao dokaza o adresi (ovo mora biti drugačiji dokument, ne onaj koji je prethodno dostavljen) izdatog u poslednja 3 meseca, na kojem je navedeno ime igrača, puna kućna adresa i jasan datum izdavanja. Za ovaj konkretni odeljak prihvataju se sledeći tipovi dokumenata: račun za struju, račun za gas, račun za vodu, izvod iz banke ili poreski izvod;
Selfi igrača koji drži dokaz o adresi - ovo mora biti novi dokaz o adresi koji je tražen;
Selfi igrača koji drži pasoš pored lica.
Ove podatke je potrebno direktno otpremiti na profil igrača u kazinu ili poslati imejlom na .
Molimo vas da imate u vidu da prihvatamo samo originalne fotografije, sa kompletnim EXIF informacijama koje su dostupne - uređaj koji je korišćen za snimanje fotografija, datum kada su snimljene i ostale relevantne informacije.
Fotografije treba da budu jasne i svi detalji, uključujući pozadinu dokumenta, treba da budu jasno vidljivi.
Što se tiče imejla koji je igrač priložio u prethodnom odgovoru, imajte u vidu da je Adresa se koristi isključivo za prijem dokumenata i obaveštavanje igrača nakon što budu pregledani. Za sva pitanja ili nedoumice, igrač će morati da kontaktira korisničku podršku putem e-pošte ili ćaskanja uživo.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Eva Stoun
Šef za korisničko iskustvo
Kazino MrWest
Dear Kubo,
From what I see the delay is due to the fact the player isn't cooperating with our team and providing the requested documents.
For reference, here is what was requested from the player:
Photo of a new Proof of Address document (this needs to be different document, not one previously provided) issued in the last 3 months, showing the player's name, full home address and a clear date of issue. For this specific section the following document types are accepted: electricity bill, gas bill, water bill, bank statement or tax statement;
Selfie of the player holding the Proof of Address - this needs to be the new Proof of Address that was requested;
Selfie of the player holding the passport next to his face.
These need to be uploaded directly to the player's casino profile or sent by email to [email protected].
Kindly note that we only accept the original photos taken, with the complete EXIF information available - showing the device used to take the photos, the date when they were taken and the other relevant information.
Photos should be clear and all the details, including the document background should be clearly visible.
Regarding the email the player attached a screenshot of in the previous reply, please note that the [email protected] address is strictly used to receive documents and inform players once they are reviewed. For any questions or concerns the player will need to contact customer support by email or Live Chat.
Kako ne sarađujem? Slao sam vam imejlove više puta tokom 8 dana. Takođe ste propustili odgovore na moja pitanja, a ovo su OPET isti kopirani i nalepljeni odgovori koje dobijam imejlom.
Ponovo ću PITATI i PONOVO ukazati na gore navedene dokaze.
1 - Prethodno sam otpremio dokaz o adresi (račun za komunalije - objavljeno. Poslao sam sliku). Ovo je verifikovano zajedno sa mojim ličnim dokumentom i prethodnim selfijem (zato je priložena e-pošta od vas u kojoj se kaže da je moj račun verifikovan). Zatim sam imao isplate i uplate bez problema. Prilikom sledećeg isplate, tražili ste sve ove nove stvari. Moj novi dokaz o adresi ste tražili u PDF formatu. Tako da sam preuzeo svoj bankovni izvod direktno iz moje AIB kancelarije. Snimio sam svoj ekran dok to radim i otpremio ga na svoju e-poštu i poslao vam ga u realnom vremenu. (Morao sam ranije da uradim ISTO sa ličnim dokumentom jer ste stalno govorili da sam promenio metapodatke na njemu. Nisam). Da li je moj AIB bankovni izvod prihvaćen? Ako nije, zašto? Prethodno ste u e-poštama tražili da selfi sa dokazom o adresi bude isti. Sada gore kažete drugačiji? Imam samo račun za komunalije i bankovni izvod. Imam i telefonski račun za svoja tri telefona? Koji dokaz o adresi vam je potreban i koji selfi vam je potreban uz njega?
2- Već sam postavio selfi na kojem držim pasoš? Uvek kažeš da su metapodatci promenjeni? Šta mogu da uradim?
Mogu da snimim video i da vam ga postavim ako želite? Da li bi vam ovo pomoglo? Ili mogu da obavim video poziv? Nisam siguran u čemu su problemi ovde jer sam prethodno bio verifikovan i povlačenja novca nisu bila problem. Sada ste odjednom počeli da se ponašate veoma nejasno i onemogućavate verifikaciju uprkos tome što sam poslao svu dokumentaciju (i više!), ali vi stalno tvrdite da nisu u pravu...
Otpremam sve što sam prethodno naveo u ovoj temi (i što je verifikovano) da bi Casinoguru mogao da vidi. (Ne mogu da otpremim svoj izvod iz banke jer je u PDF formatu ili video snimke. Ali sam ih poslao CG imejlom).
Takođe sam obavestio kazino da sam u procesu selidbe iz Irske nazad u Švedsku (zaustavljam se u Velikoj Britaniji zbog majke) zbog porodične bolesti, tako da će mi nalog biti potrebno ažuriran ili zatvoren.
Hello,
How am I not cooperating? I have emailed you mutliple times over 8 days. You have also missed out responses to my questions and this is AGAIN the same copy and paste responses I am getting by email.
I will ASK again, and AGAIN point to evidence above.
1 - I previously uploaded a proof of address (Utility Bill - Posted. Sent a picture) This was verified along with my ID and previous selfie (Hence the attached email from you saying my account was verified). I then had withdrawals and deposits no issues. On a subsequent withdrawal you then asked for all these new things. My new proof of address you asked for in PDF. So I downloaded my bank statement directly from my AIB back office. I recorded my screen of me doing this and uploading it to my email and sending it to you in real time. (I had to do THIS SAME THING with ID previously as you kept saying I had changed meta on it. I had not). Has my AIB bank statement been accepted? If not then why? You previously requested in emails that the selfie holding the proof of address needs to be the same one. Now you say above different one? I only have my utility Bill and my bank statement. I have a phone bill as well for my three phone? Which proof of address do you need and which selfie do you need with it?
2- I already provided a selfie of me holding my passport? You always say meta is changed? What can I do?
I can record a video and upload it to you if you like? Would this help? Or I can do a video call? I am not sure of the issues here as I was previously verified and withdrawals were no issue. You have now suddenly begun to act in a very obtuse way and making it impossible to verify despite me sending in all the docs (and more!) but you keep claiming they are wrong...
I am uploading everything I have previously provided in this thread (and were verified) for Casinoguru to see. (I cannot upload my bank statement as it's pdf or the videos. But I have sent these to CG on email).
I have also informed the casino I am in the midst of moving from Ireland back to Sweden (stopping in UK for my mother) due to family illness, so will need the account updated or closed.
Prema dostupnim informacijama, igrač je već dostavio tražena dokumenta u skladu sa vašim zahtevima. Fotografije su takođe vidljive u temi žalbi, sa izuzetkom traženog selfija na kojem se nalazi dokaz o adresi.
Možete li, molim vas, pojasniti šta tačno, osim gorepomenutog selfija, još uvek nedostaje? Pored toga, koji su trenutni problemi koji vas sprečavaju da prihvatite već dostavljena dokumenta?
Da li biste bili otvoreni za obavljanje verifikacionog poziva sa igračem kao alternativni način završetka procesa verifikacije?
Hvala vam na odgovoru.
Dear MrWest Casino,
According to the available information, the player has already submitted the requested documents in line with your requirements. The photos are also visible in the complaint thread, with the exception of the requested selfie holding the proof of address.
Could you please clarify exactly what, aside from the aforementioned selfie, is still missing? Additionally, what are the current issues preventing you from accepting the documents already provided?
Would you be open to conducting a verification call with the player as an alternative means of completing the verification process?
Hvala Kubo. Takođe mi je potrebno pojašnjenje u vezi sa sledećim (što sam već nekoliko puta tražio pojašnjenje)
1 - Prethodno sam otpremio dokaz o adresi (račun za komunalije - objavljeno. Poslao sam sliku). Ovo je verifikovano zajedno sa mojim ličnim dokumentom i prethodnim selfijem (zato je priložena e-pošta od vas u kojoj se kaže da je moj račun verifikovan). Zatim sam imao isplate i uplate bez problema. Prilikom sledećeg isplate, tražili ste sve ove nove stvari. Moj novi dokaz o adresi ste tražili u PDF formatu. Tako da sam preuzeo svoj bankovni izvod direktno iz moje AIB kancelarije. Snimio sam svoj ekran dok to radim i otpremio ga na svoju e-poštu i poslao vam ga u realnom vremenu. (Morao sam ranije da uradim ISTO sa ličnim dokumentom jer ste stalno govorili da sam promenio metapodatke na njemu. Nisam). Da li je moj AIB bankovni izvod prihvaćen? Ako nije, zašto? Prethodno ste u e-poštama tražili da selfi sa dokazom o adresi bude isti. Sada gore kažete drugačiji? Imam samo račun za komunalije i bankovni izvod. Imam i telefonski račun za svoja tri telefona? Koji dokaz o adresi vam je potreban i koji selfi vam je potreban uz njega?
Thanks kubo. Also need clarification on the following (Which i've asked for clarifty on a number of times'
1 - I previously uploaded a proof of address (Utility Bill - Posted. Sent a picture) This was verified along with my ID and previous selfie (Hence the attached email from you saying my account was verified). I then had withdrawals and deposits no issues. On a subsequent withdrawal you then asked for all these new things. My new proof of address you asked for in PDF. So I downloaded my bank statement directly from my AIB back office. I recorded my screen of me doing this and uploading it to my email and sending it to you in real time. (I had to do THIS SAME THING with ID previously as you kept saying I had changed meta on it. I had not). Has my AIB bank statement been accepted? If not then why? You previously requested in emails that the selfie holding the proof of address needs to be the same one. Now you say above different one? I only have my utility Bill and my bank statement. I have a phone bill as well for my three phone? Which proof of address do you need and which selfie do you need with it?
Pošto se proces verifikacije sprovodi u skladu sa našim internim politikama i regulatornim zahtevima, igrač će morati da sledi uputstva našeg posvećenog tima, što sam takođe pomenuo u svom prethodnom odgovoru.
Fotografije koje nam je igrač do sada direktno poslao su sve odbijene i igraču je naloženo da napravi nove fotografije (one treba da sadrže sve relevantne exif informacije i jasno pokazuju da su snimljene nakon našeg zahteva) i da ih dostavi. Ponovo uključujem listu radi reference:
Fotografija novog dokumenta kao dokaza o adresi (ovo mora biti drugačiji dokument, ne onaj koji je prethodno dostavljen) izdatog u poslednja 3 meseca, na kojem je navedeno ime igrača, puna kućna adresa i jasan datum izdavanja. Za ovaj konkretni odeljak prihvataju se sledeći tipovi dokumenata: račun za struju, račun za gas, račun za vodu, izvod iz banke ili poreski izvod;
Selfi igrača koji drži dokaz o adresi - ovo mora biti novi dokaz o adresi koji je tražen;
Selfi igračice koja drži pasoš pored lica.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Eva Stoun
Šef za korisničko iskustvo
Kazino MrWest
Dear Kubo,
Thank you for your response!
As the verification process is conducted in line with our internal policies and regulatory requirements, the player will need to follow the instructions given by our dedicated team, which I have also mentioned in my previous reply.
The photos the player has sent directly to our so far have all been rejected and the player has been instructed to take new photos (these should have all the relevant exif information and clearly show that they were taken after our request) and provide them. I am including the list again for reference:
Photo of a new Proof of Address document (this needs to be different document, not one previously provided) issued in the last 3 months, showing the player's name, full home address and a clear date of issue. For this specific section the following document types are accepted: electricity bill, gas bill, water bill, bank statement or tax statement;
Selfie of the player holding the Proof of Address - this needs to be the new Proof of Address that was requested;
Selfie of the player holding the passport next to her face.
Ponovo, ovaj odgovor ignoriše sve tačke koje pokrećem/prethodne zahteve koje su postavili? Ovo je očigledno namerno od strane gospodina Vesta (tj. Vest Kejna, i razlog zašto su ostali bez MGA).
1 - Prethodno sam otpremio dokaz o adresi (račun za komunalije - objavljeno. Poslao sam sliku). Ovo je verifikovano zajedno sa mojim ličnim dokumentom i prethodnim selfijem (zato je priložena e-pošta od vas u kojoj se kaže da je moj račun verifikovan). Zatim sam imao isplate i uplate bez problema. Prilikom sledećeg isplate, tražili ste sve ove nove stvari. Moj novi dokaz o adresi ste tražili u PDF formatu. Tako da sam preuzeo svoj bankovni izvod direktno iz moje AIB kancelarije. Snimio sam svoj ekran dok to radim i otpremio ga na svoju e-poštu i poslao vam ga u realnom vremenu. (Morao sam ranije da uradim ISTO sa ličnim dokumentom jer ste stalno govorili da sam promenio metapodatke na njemu. Nisam). Da li je moj AIB bankovni izvod prihvaćen? Ako nije, zašto? Prethodno ste u e-poštama tražili da selfi sa dokazom o adresi bude isti. Sada gore kažete drugačiji? Imam samo račun za komunalije i bankovni izvod. Imam i telefonski račun za svoja tri telefona? Koji dokaz o adresi vam je potreban i koji selfi vam je potreban uz njega?
2 - Kazino Guru, koji EXIF itd. je promenjen na dokumentima koje sam ovde otpremio i dostavio? Možete li vi ili gospodin Vest dati bilo kakav dokaz za to? (Shvatam da ne tvrdite da sam ja to uradio).
3 - Nemam drugi dokaz o adresama sa moje prethodne irske adrese osim računa za komunalne usluge (KOJI JE WHICH WEST PRVOBITNO PRIHVATIO) i izvoda iz banke AIB (koji sam preuzeo i snimio video dok to radim i otpremio video. Još uvek nema pojašnjenja da li je ovo prihvaćeno ili odbijeno, razlozi??). Imam stari račun za vodu poslat na tu adresu koji je još uvek važeći? Da li će ovo biti dovoljno?
4 - Trenutno se zbog majke selim između Ujedinjenog Kraljevstva i povratka u Švedsku. Tako da nisam baš siguran kakvu relevantnost sada ima dokaz o adresi, s obzirom da mi zakup ističe krajem juna?
5 - Mogu da snimim video i da vam ga postavim ako želite? Da li bi ovo pomoglo? Ili mogu da obavim video poziv? Nisam siguran u čemu su problemi ovde jer sam prethodno bio verifikovan i isplate nisu bile problem. Sada ste odjednom počeli da se ponašate veoma nejasno i onemogućavate verifikaciju uprkos tome što sam poslao svu dokumentaciju (i više!), ali vi stalno tvrdite da nisu u pravu...
Gospodin Vest kontinuirano ignoriše moje argumente/zahteve za pojašnjenje zbog njihovih suprotstavljenih zahteva, neće pomoći da se ova žalba reši. Ali ĆE pomoći gospodinu Vestu da nastavi da pokušava krađu. Ponudio sam da napravim video snimke za verifikaciju, takođe sam se snimao kako slikam, otpremam slike, preuzimam izvode iz banke i šaljem ih direktno imejlom gospodinu Vestu (CG je poslala ove video snimke).... Igrač ovde ne može ništa drugo da uradi.
Again, this response ignores all the points I am raising/the previous requests they made? This is clearly deliberate from Mr West (aka West caino, and the reason they were run out of MGA).
1 - I previously uploaded a proof of address (Utility Bill - Posted. Sent a picture) This was verified along with my ID and previous selfie (Hence the attached email from you saying my account was verified). I then had withdrawals and deposits no issues. On a subsequent withdrawal you then asked for all these new things. My new proof of address you asked for in PDF. So I downloaded my bank statement directly from my AIB back office. I recorded my screen of me doing this and uploading it to my email and sending it to you in real time. (I had to do THIS SAME THING with ID previously as you kept saying I had changed meta on it. I had not). Has my AIB bank statement been accepted? If not then why? You previously requested in emails that the selfie holding the proof of address needs to be the same one. Now you say above different one? I only have my utility Bill and my bank statement. I have a phone bill as well for my three phone? Which proof of address do you need and which selfie do you need with it?
2 - Casino Guru, what EXIF etc has been changed on the documents I have uploaded here and provided? Can you or Mr West provide any proof of this? ( I realise you are not claiming I have done this).
3 - I have no other proof of addresses from my previous Irish address other then my utility bill (WHICH WEST ORIGINALLY ACCEPTED) and my AIB bank statement (Which I downloaded and did a video of me doing so and uploaded a video of. Still no clarification on if this was accepted or declined, reasons??). I have an old posted water bill to that address which is still in date? Will this do?
4 - I am between the UK and moving back to Sweden now due to my mother. So I'm not really sure what relevance the proof of address now has as my lease is up at the end of June?
5 - I can record a video and upload it to you if you like? Would this help? Or I can do a video call? I am not sure of the issues here as I was previously verified and withdrawals were no issue. You have now suddenly begun to act in a very obtuse way and making it impossible to verify despite me sending in all the docs (and more!) but you keep claiming they are wrong...
Mr West continuously ignoring my points/requests for clarification due to their conflicting requests, won't help this complaint get resolved. But it WILL help Mr West continue to attempt theft. I have offered to do verification videos, I have also filmed myself taking pics, uploading pics, downloading bank statements and emailing them directly to Mr West (CG have these videos sent to them).... There is nothing else a player can do here.
Prema dostavljenim podacima, igračica je dostavila izvod iz banke kao dokaz o adresi, u skladu sa vašim navedenim zahtevima. Pored toga, priložila je video koji pokazuje kako je dokument direktno izvezen sa njenog internet bankarskog naloga, jasno potvrđujući autentičnost i izvor datoteke.
S obzirom na to, nije nam jasno zašto izjava nije prihvaćena. Da li biste mogli da pojasnite konkretne razloge za njeno odbijanje?
Unapred hvala na vašem odgovoru.
Dragi mudrače ,
Što se tiče fotografija kojima nedostaju EXIF podaci, možete li, molim vas, dati više detalja o tome kako su slike obrađene? Konkretno:
Koji uređaj ste koristili za snimanje fotografija?
Da li ste ih priložili imejlu direktno sa telefona?
Da li su slike izvezene, uređene ili konvertovane pomoću neke aplikacije pre nego što su poslate u kazino?
Vaše pojašnjenje će nam pomoći da bolje razumemo problem i da vam efikasnije pomognemo.
Hvala unapred.
Dear MrWest Casino,
According to the data provided, the player submitted a bank statement as proof of address, in line with your stated requirements. Additionally, she included a video demonstrating how the document was exported directly from her internet banking account, clearly verifying the authenticity and source of the file.
Given this, we are unclear as to why the statement has not been accepted. Could you kindly clarify the specific reasons for its rejection?
Thank you in advance for your response.
Dear sageirsword,
Regarding the photos with missing EXIF data, could you please provide more detail about how the images were handled? Specifically:
What device did you use to take the photos?
Did you attach them to the email directly from your phone?
Were the images exported, edited, or converted using any app before being sent to the casino?
Your clarification will help us better understand the issue and assist you more effectively.
Od igrača je zatraženo da dostavi drugi dokument. Ne vidim da je naš tim tražio bilo kakav video ili slično.
Vidim da je igračica u svom prethodnom odgovoru navela da više nije stanovnik zemlje u kojoj je otvorila svoj kazino račun.
U ovom slučaju, igrač će morati da pošalje formalni zahtev obaveštavajući nas o svojoj novoj adresi stanovanja i zemlji, uz prilog dokaza o adresi za njenu novu adresu stanovanja.
Obavestiću i naš tim o ovome.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Eva Stoun
Šef za korisničko iskustvo
Kazino MrWest
Dear Kubo,
Thank you for your response!
The player was asked to provide a different document. I don't see our team asking for any video or similar.
I see that the player has stated in her previous reply that she is no longer a resident in the country where she opened her casino account.
In this case the player will need to send a formal request to [email protected] informing us of her new residential address and country, attaching a proof of address for her new residential address.
Što se tiče fotografija kojima nedostaju EXIF podaci, možete li, molim vas, dati više detalja o tome kako su slike obrađene? Konkretno:
Kojim uređajem ste slikali? - Ajfon
Da li ste ih priložili imejlu direktno sa telefona? - DA (Prosledio sam vam poslednja 2 imejla sa selfijem i videom - poslata su na jakub.m imejl - poslao sam vam selfi koji sam napravio, prikazujući ga u prilogu i video da dokažem da se sve dešavalo u realnom vremenu). Gospodin Vest je ignorisao moje imejlove u vezi sa ovim 8 dana.
Da li su slike izvezene, uređene ili konvertovane pomoću neke aplikacije pre nego što su poslate u kazino? Ne. Samo su otpremljene i odmah poslate imejlom.
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Kao što vidite iz imejlova koje sam vam prosledio, nisam dobio odgovor na svoje imejlove od 3. Poslao sam brojne imejlove za pomoć i imejlove upućene kompaniji EVA, ali takođe nisam dobio odgovor.
Thank you for sorting out the account issue Kubo!
To answer your questions -
Regarding the photos with missing EXIF data, could you please provide more detail about how the images were handled? Specifically:
What device did you use to take the photos? - IPHONE
Did you attach them to the email directly from your phone? - YES (I have forwarded you the last 2 emails of the selfie & video - been sent to jakub.m email - I sent of the selfie I did, showing me attaching it and a video to prove it was all happening in real time). Mr West have ignored my emails regarding this for 8 days.
Were the images exported, edited, or converted using any app before being sent to the casino? Nope. Just uploaded and emailed straight away.
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As you can see from the emails I forwarded you I have had no response to my emails since the 3rd. I have sent numerous chasing emails and emails addressed to EVA with no response also.
Kubo, poslao sam ti imejl gde sam napravio selfi sa dokumentom pored lica. Molim te, preuzmi ga i pogledaj kvalitet.
Nakon 10 dana, Vest je odgovorio priloženim odgovorom.
Odvratno i jednostavno nije istinito. Priložio sam uvećanu verziju selfija sa svim mojim detaljima 100% jasno vidljivim (možete se pozvati i na ovo u imejlu koji sam poslao uz prilog). Možete videti da je fokus na detaljima i da nema nikakvog zamućenja.
Kubo, I have forwarded you the email where I took the selfie with the document next to my face. Please download it and look at the quality.
After 10 days West have responded with the attached response.
Disgusting and simply not true. I have attached a zoomed in version of the selfie with all my details 100% clearly visible (you can also reference this in th email I sent with the attachment). You can see the focus is on the details and there is no blur whatsoever.
Hvala vam što ste nam dostavili dodatna dokumenta i najnoviji selfi. Što se tiče prethodno izražene zabrinutosti zbog zamućenja, verujem da se kazino možda i dalje poziva na raniju sliku gde su podaci iz pasoša bili malo nejasni. Uz to rečeno, po mojoj proceni, najnoviji selfi je dovoljno oštar i ispunjava potrebne kriterijume, uključujući potrebne EXIF podatke.
Draga Evo i gospodine Vest Kazino,
Po mom profesionalnom mišljenju, najnoviji selfi koji je igračica pružila je dovoljan za potvrdu njenog identiteta. U ovom trenutku, čini se da višestruka odbijanja igračinih dokumenata - često praćena identičnim porukama u stilu šablona - više nisu razumna.
Da biste izbegli dalja kašnjenja i nepotrebne frustracije, molim vas da jasno navedete, konkretnim rečima, koja dodatna dokumentacija ili pojašnjenja su još uvek potrebna od igrača da bi se proces verifikacije završio? Ljubazno molim za direktan i personalizovan odgovor, umesto još jedne automatizovane ili kopirane poruke.
Ovo pitanje je aktuelno već duže vreme i, iako cenim vašu marljivost u obezbeđivanju poštovanja propisa, moram da istaknem da kontinuirani zahtevi deluju nesrazmerno s obzirom na skroman iznos spora.
Hvala vam na pažnji posvećenoj ovom pitanju. Radujem se vašem brzom i konstruktivnom odgovoru.
Dear sageirsword,
Thank you for providing the additional documents and the most recent selfie. Regarding the previously raised concern about blurriness, I believe the casino may still be referring to the earlier image where the passport details were slightly unclear. That said, in my assessment, the latest selfie is sufficiently sharp and meets the necessary criteria, including the required EXIF data.
Dear Eva & MrWest Casino,
In my professional opinion, the most recent selfie provided by the player is adequate for verifying her identity. At this point, it appears that the repeated rejections of the player's documents - often accompanied by identical, template-style messages - are no longer reasonable.
To avoid further delays and unnecessary frustration, could you please clearly state, in specific terms, what additional documentation or clarification is still required from the player to finalize the verification process? I kindly request a direct and personalized response, rather than another automated or copy-pasted message.
This matter has been ongoing for quite some time, and while I appreciate your diligence in ensuring compliance, I must point out that the continued requests appear disproportionate given the modest amount in dispute.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your prompt and constructive reply.
Koliko vidim, poslednju fotografiju na koju se pozivate naš tim je odbio jer nije dovoljno jasna (pasoš nije u fokusu, detalji su mutni, nema vidljivih bezbednosnih karakteristika, pozadina pasoša nije jasno vidljiva). Sve fotografije se pregledaju u skladu sa našim internim procesima koji su u potpunosti usklađeni sa industrijskim standardima i regulatornim zahtevima u vezi sa dužnom pažnjom prema klijentima.
Ponovo prilažem korake koje igrač treba da sledi, a koji su već pomenuti u mojim prethodnim odgovorima:
Za dokaz identiteta, igrač će morati da napravi novi selfi na kojem drži pasoš, vodeći računa da je fotografija fokusirana na pasoš i da su svi detalji u fokusu i jasni. Očekujemo da se jasno vide pozadina pasoša, detalji i barem neke od bezbednosnih karakteristika pasoša. Preporučujem da igrač onemogući sve funkcije za poboljšanje fotografija ili filtere koje koristi i jednostavno napravi običnu fotografiju u dobrim uslovima osvetljenja, što će lako proizvesti željeni rezultat. Igrač treba da otpremi originalnu fotografiju snimljenu sa uređaja bez promene veličine ili bilo kakvih izmena na fotografiji.
Pošto je igračica izjavila da više nije stanovnik zemlje u kojoj je registrovala svoj nalog, moraće da pošalje formalni zahtev obaveštavajući nas o svojoj novoj adresi stanovanja i zemlji, uz prilog dokaza o adresi stanovanja. Iako sam je o tome obavestio pre 2 nedelje, igračica još uvek nije završila ovaj korak.
Fotografija novog dokumenta koji dokazuje adresu (koji prikazuje novu adresu stanovanja igrača) izdatog u poslednja 3 meseca, na kojem je navedeno ime igrača, puna kućna adresa i jasan datum izdavanja. Za ovaj konkretan odeljak prihvataju se sledeći tipovi dokumenata: račun za struju, račun za gas, račun za vodu, izvod iz banke ili poreski izvod;
Selfi igrača koji drži dokaz o adresi.
Da bi se izbegli dalji detalji, preporučujem igraču da pažljivo prati gore navedene korake i dostavi tražene fotografije.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Eva Stoun
Šef za korisničko iskustvo
Kazino MrWest
Dear Kubo,
Thank you for your response!
From what I see the last photo which you reference has been rejected by our team as the photo is not clear enough (passport is not in focus, details are blurry, no security features are visible, passport background is not clearly visible). All photos are reviewed according to our internal processes which are completely aligned to industry standards and regulatory requirements related to customer due diligence.
I am attaching again the steps the player needs to follow, which were already mentioned in my previous replies:
For Proof of Identity the player will need to take a new selfie of herself holding the passport, making sure that the photo is focused on the passport and that all the details are in focus and clear. We expect to clearly see the passport background, the details and at least some of the security features of the passport. I recommend that the player disable any photo enhancement features or filters used and simply take a regular photo in good lightning conditions which will easily produce the desired result. The player should upload the original photo taken from the device without re-sizing it or making any modifications to the photo.
As the player declared she is no longer a resident of the country she registered her account in, she will need to send a formal request to [email protected] informing us of her new residential address and country, attaching a proof of address for her new residential address. While I advised of this 2 weeks ago, the player hasn't yet completed this step.
Photo of a new Proof of Address document (showing the player's new residential address) issued in the last 3 months, showing the player's name, full home address and a clear date of issue. For this specific section the following document types are accepted: electricity bill, gas bill, water bill, bank statement or tax statement;
Selfie of the player holding the Proof of Address.
To avoid any further details I recommend that the player follow the steps provided above carefully and provide the requested photos.
Ne mogu da pronađem nijedan imejl od tebe, poslat na , sa zahtevom za promenu vaše adrese, uz priloženi dokaz o adresi za vašu novu adresu. Da li biste mogli da priložite snimak ekrana imejla ovde kako bih mogao da ga pronađem?
Za vaš kazino nalog potrebno je da koristite adresu vašeg stalnog prebivališta. Pošto ste naveli da više ne živite u zemlji u kojoj ste registrovali nalog, moraćete da je ažurirate na svoju novu stalnu adresu.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Eva Stoun
Šef za korisničko iskustvo
Kazino MrWest
Dear sageirsword,
Thank you for your response!
I am unable to find any email from you, sent to [email protected], requesting your address to be changed along with an attached Proof of Address for your new address. Would you be able to attach a screenshot of the email here so I can locate it?
For your casino account you need to use the address of your permanent residence. As you stated you are no longer residing in the country where you registered the account then you will need to update this to your new permanent address.
Upravo sam poslao ove selfije i dodao ih u kopiju Jakubu sa casinoguru-a (nemam tvoju imejl adresu, Kubo). Takođe sam poslao snimak ekrana sa telefona na kojem se vidi da sam izabrao podatke iz pasoša da budu u fokusu.
Eva, naredna verovatno 3 meseca moja adresa će biti moja adresa u Velikoj Britaniji. Da li da pošaljem ovo sa dokazom o adresi i selfi sa dokazom o adresi? Videla sam da Vestu nije zakonski dozvoljeno da se kandiduje u Velikoj Britaniji, pa sam zabrinuta zbog toga. Kada se preselim u Švedsku, takođe sam malo istraživala i videla da je tvoja stara kompanija (Goldvin) kažnjena ogromnim novčanim kaznama i zabranjeno joj je ulazak u Švedsku.
Dakle, sve je ovo veoma zabrinjavajuće, a dodatno pogoršano mojim dosadašnjim iskustvom sa vama... Možda bi mi Kazinoguru mogao pomoći savetom?
I have just sent these selifes & cc'd in Jakub from casinoguru (I do not have your email Kubo). I have also sent the screenshot from my phone showing I have selected the passport info to be in focus.
Eva, for the next probably 3 months my address will be my UK address. Shall I send this with proo of address and selfie with the proof of address? I have sene that West are not legally allowed to run in the UK so I am concerned about this. When I move to sweden I also did some digging and see your old company name (Goldwin) was fined huge amounts and banned from sweden.
So all of this is very concerning, compounded by my experience with you thus far.. Perhaps Casinoguru could help advise me?
Hvala vam što ste nam dali nove selfije. Samo kratka napomena radi razjašnjenja - [email protected] je moja imejl adresa. Jakub je moje pravo ime, dok je Kubo samo nadimak. Izvinjavam se zbog eventualne zabune.
Draga Evo i gospodine Vest Kazino,
Hvala vam na ažuriranju i što ste podelili tražena uputstva.
Možete li ljubazno potvrditi da su zabrinutosti igračice u vezi sa verifikacijom njene adrese u Velikoj Britaniji neosnovane - to jest, ne bi trebalo da bude problema sa završetkom verifikacije dok igračica boravi u Velikoj Britaniji, posebno imajući u vidu da Velika Britanija nije navedena među ograničenim zemljama vaše platforme?
Pored toga, možete li potvrditi da ste primili najnoviji imejl koji sadrži selfije igrača?
Hvala vam na kontinuiranoj saradnji.
Dear sageirsword,
Thank you for providing the new selfies. Just a quick note for clarity - [email protected] is my email address. Jakub is my given name, while Kubo is simply a nickname. Apologies for any confusion this may have caused.
Dear Eva & MrWest Casino,
Thank you for the update and for sharing the requested instructions.
Could you kindly confirm that the player's concerns regarding the verification of her UK address are unfounded - that is, there should be no issues completing verification while the player resides in the UK, especially considering the UK is not listed among your platform’s restricted countries?
Additionally, could you please confirm that you have received the most recent email containing the player’s selfies?
Da bi verifikovala, igračica će morati da dostavi dokumenta koja potvrđuju stalnu adresu. Kako je igračica navela, ona je samo privremeno u prolazu, to znači da neće moći da izvrši verifikaciju koristeći tu adresu.
Selfiji su primljeni i odbijeni jer ponovo podaci iz pasoša nisu dovoljno vidljivi da bi prošli verifikaciju.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Eva Stoun
Šef za korisničko iskustvo
Kazino MrWest
Dear Kubo,
Thank you for your response!
In order to verify the player will need to provide documents attesting a permanent address. As the player stated she is just passing through temporarily this means that she will not be able to verify using that address.
The selfies were received and rejected as again the passport's details aren't sufficiently visible to pass the verification.
Ponovo smo otvorili ovaj slučaj kako bismo omogućili dalju istragu. U međuvremenu, bio sam u privatnoj komunikaciji i sa igračem i sa predstavnikom kazina. Međutim, sva značajna ažuriranja biće ovde podeljena radi transparentnosti.
Dragi mudrače ,
Za početak, možete li mi, molim vas, poslati dokaz o vašoj trenutnoj adresi na moju imejl adresu?
Hvala vam na saradnji.
Hello Everyone,
We have reopened this case to allow for further investigation into the matter. In the meantime, I’ve been in private communication with both the player and the casino representative. However, any significant updates will be shared here for transparency.
Dear sageirsword,
To begin, could you please send proof of your current address to my email?
Da, mogu. Već sam zatražio papirne račune od dobavljača energije i danas moram da odem i dobijem izvod iz banke. Takođe imam zakazan termin za univerzalni kredit, dobiću neku vrstu pisma od njih koje bi mi moglo biti od koristi.
Objasnio sam Zapadu da je ovo moje stalno prebivalište za sada jer nemam nikakve račune niti bilo šta drugo i postoji šansa da će moja majka doći da živi sa mnom u Velikoj Britaniji ako dobijemo pomoć od opštine oko mesta u kojem se nalazim. Međutim, možda ću morati da se vratim u Švedsku do kraja godine. Ipak, to nije definitivno.
Hello Kubo,
Yes I can. I have already requested paper bills from the energy provider and have to go in and get a statement from the bank today. I also have universal credit appointment I will get some kind of letter from them I could use also.
I have explained to the West that this is my permanent residence for now as I don't have any bills or anything elsewhere & there is a chance my mother will be coming to live with me in the UK if we can get help from the council with the place I am in. However I may have to move back to sweden by the end of the year. It's not definite though.
Još jednom vam hvala na kontinuiranoj saradnji. Iskreno se izvinjavam zbog dugotrajne prirode ovog problema - zaista cenim vaše strpljenje i iskreno želim da pomognem u rešavanju ovog pitanja što je pre moguće.
Da bismo nastavili, da li biste mogli da nam dostavite kratak video vašeg pasoša? Molimo vas da ga snimite izbliza, nežno ga pomerajući sa jedne na drugu stranu kako biste jasno videli holografske zaštitne karakteristike.
Pored toga, ako su dostupni, da li imate neke druge važeće lične dokumente (kao što je vozačka dozvola) koji bi takođe mogli poslužiti kao dokaz identiteta?
Hvala vam puno na pomoći.
Dear sageirsword,
Thank you once again for your continued cooperation. I sincerely apologize for the prolonged nature of this issue - I truly appreciate your patience, and I genuinely want to assist in resolving this matter as soon as possible.
To move forward, could you please provide a short video of your passport? Kindly record it with a close-up view, gently moving it from side to side to clearly display the holographic security features.
Additionally, if available, do you have any other valid identification documents (such as a driver’s license) that could also serve as proof of identity?
Da, imam švedski pasoš. Priložio sam slike ovde. Kazino i Eva nikada nisu tražili nikakav drugi dokaz o identitetu?
Zbunjen sam? Poslao sam ovih 18 slika pre više od nedelju dana i nisam dobio odgovor od kazina, niti je bilo odgovora ovde niti na moj imejl? Da li su one prihvaćene? Da li je moja adresa sada ažurirana?
Da li su sada tražili video pasoša (koji sam rekao da ću dostaviti pre više od mesec dana, ali su više puta govorili da nije potreban i da će biti odbijen).
*Mislim da je važno napomenuti da sam razgovarao sa UKGC (možete videti i prilog) i da je nezakonito da operater nudi usluge u Velikoj Britaniji bez licence. Gospodin Vest je nema. Dakle, ovaj proces ažuriranja moje adrese je suvišan. Zar nije trebalo da moj nalog bude zatvoren, a stanje poslato na moj način isplate kada sam napustio Irsku? Takođe ne mogu da pristupim sajtu preko svog internet provajdera. Kaže da je blokiran. Sky to radi zbog onoga što smatraju ilegalnim sajtovima. Kako da ovo zaobiđem?
Hvala
Hi Kubo.
Yes I can do the video.
Yes I have my swedish passport. I have attached pictures here. The Casino & Eva have never requested any other proof of ID though?
I'm confused? I sent these 18 pictures over a week ago and had no response from the casino and there has been no response here or on my email? Have these been accepted? Has my address now been updated?
Have they now requested the video of the passport (Which I stated I would supply over a month ago but they repeatedly said it was not needed and would be rejected).
*I think it's important to note that I have spoken with the UKGC (You can also see the attached) & it's illegal for an operator to offer services in the UK without a license. Mr West do not have one. So it makes this process of updating my address redundant. Shouldn't my account have just been closed and balance sent to my withdrawal method when I left Ireland? I also can't get on the site on my ISP. Says it's blocked. Sky do this for what they deem, illegal sites. How do I circumvent this?
Možete li, molim vas, potvrditi da ste primili ovaj snimak? Razumem da nije eksplicitno tražen, ali ako bi mogao pomoći u rešavanju problema, smatram da bi trebalo da se pregleda i da se da izjava.
Pored toga, koliko ja znam, igrač je takođe dostavio dokaz o adresi zajedno sa selfijem, u skladu sa vašim zahtevima. Možete li, molim vas, potvrditi i prijem ovih dokumenata?
Hvala vam na saradnji.
Dear sageirsword,
Thank you very much for providing the requested video.
Dear MrWest Casino,
Could you please confirm that you have received this recording? I understand it was not explicitly requested, but if it could assist in resolving the matter, I believe it should be reviewed and a statement provided.
Additionally, to my knowledge, the player has also submitted the proof of address along with the selfie as per your requirements. Could you please confirm receipt of these documents as well?
18 slika selfija sa lične karte, dva dokaza o adresi i selfiji sa svakim dokazom o adresi poslati su 31. jula. Sada je 12. avgust. Gospodin Vest nije odgovorio 13 dana nakon što sam poslao više nego što su tražili.
Ponovo, samo da ukažem na realnost. Trenutno živim u Velikoj Britaniji. UKGC (prema mojim prethodnim snimcima ekrana) je izjavio da je gospodinu Vestu nezakonito da nudi svoje usluge igračima u Velikoj Britaniji bez licence. Sve je ovo suvišno.
The 18 pictures of the ID selfie, x2 proof of addresses and selfies with each proof of addresses were submitted on the 31st of the July. It is now August 12th. Mr West have not responded for 13 days after me sending above and beyond what they requested.
Again, just to point out some reality here. I am now living in the UK. The UKGC (as per my past screenshots) have stated it is illegal for Mr West to offer it's services to players in the UK without a license. This is all redundant.
Samo da vas obavestim da sam uspeo da dobijem gospodina Vesta iz Velike Britanije koristeći telefonsku mrežu. Moj internet provajder blokira sajt jer im zakonski nije dozvoljeno da rade u Velikoj Britaniji.
Pošto kazino nije odgovorio na 18 slika koje sam poslao 31. jula, zatražio sam isplatu. Pogledajte sve u prilogu. Sajt mi dozvoljava da zatražim samo 1000 evra odjednom.
Hi Kubo,
Just to let you know I manged to get on Mr West from the UK using my phone net. My wired interent ISP blocks the site as they are not legally allowed to run in the UK.
As the casino has not responded to the 18 pictures I sent on July 31st I have requested a withdrawla. See all attached. The site is only allowing me to request 1000 euro in one go.
Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritužbu. Produžujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predviđenom roku, prigovo ćemo zatvoriti kao "nerešen", što može negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Ovo je smešno od njih. Nisu odgovorili na mojih 18 slika poslatih 31. jula, nisu obradili povlačenje, nisu odgovorili na video koji ste me zamolili da napravim... Ovakvo ponašanje je bilo tako namerno. Očigledno nisu imali nameru da reše ovo.
Da li si razgovarao sa njima privatno kao i ranije?
Hi Kubo,
This is ridiculous from them. They have not responded to my 18 pictures sent July 31st, not processed the withdrawal, not responded to the video you asked me to do... This behaviour has been so deliberate. They clearly have had no intentions of resolving this.
Have you been speaking to them privately as before?
Zatražio sam isplatu od 1000 evra pre 3 dana... Još uvek čekam. Ali izgleda da su posle 4 meseca i jedne verifikacije mog naloga ponovo verifikovali! Videćemo šta će se sada desiti sa isplatama i odgovorima na pitanja o britanskoj licenci itd.
Ali hvala vam na pomoći da stignem dovde.
Hello Kubo,
I got the attached email yesterday -
I requested €1000 withdrawal 3 days ago...Still waiting. But it looks like after 4 months and my account being verified once, they have verified it again! We'll see what happens now with the withdrawals and questions being answered about UK license etc.
But thank you for your help in getting it this far.
Mogu da potvrdim da je poslednji set dostavljenih dokumenata, zajedno sa dodatnim dostavljenim videom, prihvaćen.
Pošto je vaš nalog sada prebačen u drugu zemlju, moraćete da podnesete novi zahtev za isplatu, jer su dostupni načini plaćanja sada drugačiji.
Zahtev za povlačenje sredstava možete podneti na bankovni račun otvoren u vašoj novoj zemlji prebivališta - imajte na umu da ćete morati da dostavite izvod iz banke za taj račun da bi zahtev bio obrađen.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Eva Stoun
Šef za korisničko iskustvo
Kazino MrWest
Dear sageirsword & Kubo,
Thank you for your response!
I can confirm that the last set of documents submitted, along with the additional video provided have been accepted.
As your account is now switched to a different country you will need to place a new withdrawal request, as the available payment methods are now different.
You can place your withdrawal request to a bank account opened in your new country of residence - keep in mind that you'll need to provide a bank statement for that account for the request to be processed.
Zahtev za povlačenje sredstava možete podneti na bankovni račun otvoren u vašoj novoj zemlji prebivališta - imajte na umu da ćete morati da dostavite izvod iz banke za taj račun da bi zahtev bio obrađen.
Mislite na izvod sa bankovnog računa koji je dostavljen 31. jula, a koji ste vi proverili? Upravo su ovakve stvari koje mi izazivaju toliko stresa. UZDIŠ.
Zatražio sam od svoje banke i poslao priloženu dokumentaciju, podsećajući ih da već imaju sve ovo i da je verifikovano od 31. jula.
'You can place your withdrawal request to a bank account opened in your new country of residence - keep in mind that you'll need to provide a bank statement for that account for the request to be processed. '
You mean the Bank account statement that was provided on July 31st which you verified? It's things like this that just cause me so much stress. SIGH.
I have requested to my bank and also sent the attached to documents, reminding them that they already have all this and verified it on from July 31st
Ne želim da zahtevam puni iznos dok moja banka ne primi malu isplatu. Jer verujem da postoji velika verovatnoća da će Lojds označiti i odbiti vaše pokušaje plaćanja kao prevaru.
Razlog za ovo je što sam, pretražujući internet, pronašao igrače koji navode da isplate nisu primljene na njihov bankovni račun od vas. Takođe imam nekoliko slučajeva koji, pošto ilegalno poslujete u bankama u Velikoj Britaniji itd., mogu označiti vašu uplatu kao prevaru. Na vašem sajtu takođe piše da je sedište u Anžunu. Lojds bi sigurno označio uplatu sa bankovnog računa u toj zemlji kao sumnjivu.
Hello,
I do not want to request the full amount until a small withdrawal has been received by my bank. As i believe there is a very strong chance your attempted payments will be flagged and rejected as fraud by Lloyds.
My reason for this is looking online I have found players stating withdrawals were not received into their bank by you. I also have a few that as you are operating illegally in the UK banks etc may flag your payment as fraud. Your site also says it's based in Anjoun. Lloyds would certainly flag a payment from a bank account in that coutry as suspicous.
Iznosi za povlačenje su između 100 i 2000. Ne možete me naterati da zahtevam povlačenje punog iznosa dok ne budem siguran da će moja banka prihvatiti sredstva.
Odlučujem da podignem 200 kako bih bio siguran da će novac biti primljen jer sumnjam da će, zbog zemlje u kojoj se nalazite, banka uplatu označiti kao prevaru, što će rezultirati vraćanjem sredstava i još 4 meseca prepirke između vašeg kazina i banke u pokušaju da ih pronađete. U čemu najverovatnije nećete moći da pomognete.
Alternativno, možete mi reći ime računa sa kog ćete slati sredstva, broj računa i zemlju. Onda mogu kontaktirati LLoyds i zamoliti ih da ovo stave na moj račun kako bi prihvatili uplatu i/ili proverili da li prihvataju uplate iz te zemlje.
Treba li da vas podsetim da sam pre toliko meseci uplatio novac i igrao u kriptovalutama koje nisu fiat valute, a vi me sada terate da ga podižem na svoj bankovni račun, u fiat valuti. Ovo je očigledno protiv pranja novca.
No. As explained.
The withdrawal amounts are between 100 and 2000. You cannot force me to request a withdrawl of the full amount until I am sure the funds will be accepted by my bank.
I am choosing to withdraw 200 to ensure the money is received due to the fact I strongly suspect because of the country you are based in, the payment will be flagged as fraud by the bank, resulting in the funds being returned and another 4 months of back and forth with your casino and the bank attempting to locate them. Which you will most likely not help with.
Alternatively you can tell me the name of the account you will be sending the funds from and the account number & country. I can then contact LLoyds and ask them to put this on my account to accept the payment and/or check if they accept payments from that country.
Need I remind you I deposited all those months ago and played in Crypto a non fiat currency, you are now making me withdraw to my bank account, a fiat currency. This is obviously against AML.
Ne dozvoljavamo igračima da dele iznose na više manjih isplata. Ako ne podnesete zahtev ispravno, naš tim će ga otkazati.
Sve dok je bankovni račun važeći i registrovan na isto ime kao i vlasnik kazino računa, uplata će biti primljena u redu.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Eva Stoun
Šef za korisničko iskustvo
Kazino MrWest
Dear sageirsword & Kubo,
Thank you for your response!
We don't allow players to split the amounts into multiple smaller withdrawals. If you don't place the request correctly it will be cancelled by our team.
As long as the bank account is valid and registered under the same name as the casino account holder the payment will be received fine.
Ne. Kao što je objašnjeno. Pošto kršite AML i pošto imam značajne zabrinutosti, na osnovu iskustava drugih igrača na mreži, predviđam probleme sa novcem koji se prima na račun u Velikoj Britaniji.
„Sve dok je bankovni račun važeći i registrovan na isto ime kao i vlasnik kazino računa, uplata će biti primljena u redu" - Ovo je netačno, Lojds je blokirao zemlje visokog rizika. Kao što je rečeno, poslujete ilegalno u Velikoj Britaniji i konsultovao sam se sa bankom koja mi je savetovala da se uverim da je uplata primljena kako bih dobio dole navedene informacije od vas. Takođe su predložili da pošaljem manji iznos kako bi se osiguralo da su sredstva primljena. Zato za početak podižem samo 200 evra.
Takođe sam vas zamolio da navedete ime banke iz koje šaljete novac, broj računa i zemlju, kako bih mogao da kontaktiram Lojds i da ovo bude dodato na listu odobrenja za moj račun. Kao što ste stalno radili tokom poslednja četiri meseca, namerno ste ovo ignorisali.
Takođe, ono što govorite nije zasnovano na stvarnosti. Ne namećete svojim igračima uslov da svaki put kada izvrše podizanje novca moraju da podignu SVA SREDSTVA SA SVOG RAČUNA. To je apsurdno. Takođe, nije potkrepljeno nikakvim uslovima i odredbama, što je zapravo kontraproduktivno sa poslovne tačke gledišta kazina.
Dozvolićemo Kubu da ovo pregleda i donese logičnu odluku, jer, još jednom, razgovor sa „Evom" nema nikakvog smisla.
No. As explained. As you are breaching AML and as I have significant concerns, based on other players experiences online I forsee issues with the money being received by a UK account.
'As long as the bank account is valid and registered under the same name as the casino account holder the payment will be received fine' - This is incorrect, Lloyds put blocks on high risk countries. As stated, you are operating illegally in the UK and I have consulted with the bank who have advised me to make sure the payment is received to obtain the below information from you. They also suggested sending a smaller amount to ensure the funds are received. Hence why I am only withdrawing €200 to begin with.
I have also asked for you to provide the name of the bank you are sending the money from, account number and country, so I can contact Lloyds and have this added to an approval list on my account. As you have done constantly throughtout the last four months, you have deliberately ignored this.
Also what you are saying is not based in reality. You do not impose a conidition on your players that every time they make a withdrawal they must withdraw ALL OF THE FUNDS ON THEIR ACCOUNT. This is absurd. It is also not supported by any terms and conditions is actually counter productive for a business perspective for a casino.
We will let Kubo review this and make a logical determination, as, yet again, talking to 'Eva' is not making any sense.
Da biste zatvorili ovaj slučaj, molimo vas da zahtevate povlačenje celog mogućeg iznosa, 2000 evra, kako bi naš tim mogao da obradi uplatu u skladu sa tim.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Eva Stoun
Šef za korisničko iskustvo
Kazino MrWest
Dear sageirsword & Kubo,
I understand your concerns, however these are not founded.
In order to close this case please request the withdrawal for the whole amount possible, EUR 2000, so that our team can process the payment accordingly.
Objasnio sam svoje razloge gore nakon konsultacija sa mojom bankom. Takođe ste ignorisali/propustili da navedete ime trgovca koji šalje uplatu, broj računa i zemlju porekla kako bih mogao da pozovem Lojds i dodam ovo odobrenim uplatama za moj račun (tada bih zahtevao puni iznos odjednom).
Dakle, kako stvari stoje, kada se obradi moja isplata od 200 i potvrdim prijem, zatražiću preostali iznos i zatvoriti slučaj.
Hajde sada da sačekamo da Kubo odgovori ako ćete i dalje odbijati da obradi moju isplatu od 200.
*Takođe Kubo, na računu ima više od 2000, sada je 2030 ili tako nešto, tako da ako me nateraju da zatražim 2000 moći će da zadrže 30 jer je minimalno povlačenje kao 200 za banku.
I have explained my reasons above following consultation with my bank. You have also ignored/neglected to provide the name of the merchant sending the payment, account number and country of origin so I can call Lloyds and add this to approved payments for my account (I would then request the full amount in one go).
So as things stand, once my 200 withdrawal is processed and I confirm receipt I will request the remaining balance and close the case.
Let us now wait for kubo to respond if you are going to persist in refusing to process my 200 withdrawal.
*Also Kubo, there is more then 2000 in the account, it is 2030 or something, so by making me request 2000 they will be able to keep the 30 as min withdrawal is like 200 to bank
Hvala vam što ste prihvatili igračeva dokumenta i na saradnji tokom ovog procesa.
Dragi mudrače ,
Drago mi je da čujem da je vaš nalog sada uspešno verifikovan.
Razumem vašu zabrinutost zbog potencijalnih problema sa obradom uplate iz kazina od strane vaše banke. Međutim, moram da pojasnim da je naša uloga ograničena na rešavanje žalbi koje se tiču onlajn kazina i njihovog direktnog odnosa sa igračima. Pošto je glavni problem - odložena verifikacija - rešen i kazino je već oslobodio vaša sredstva za isplatu, sve dalje poteškoće u vezi sa vašom bankom su van našeg delokruga.
Što se tiče vaše tvrdnje da kazino posluje ilegalno: prema britanskom zakonodavstvu, samo kazinima koji poseduju licencu UKGC je dozvoljeno da zvanično posluju u Velikoj Britaniji. Međutim, činjenica da je veb-sajtu kazina moguće pristupiti iz Velike Britanije i da prihvata igrače iz Velike Britanije ne znači nužno da on „posluje u Velikoj Britaniji". Takvi kazina se smatraju ofšor operaterima. Važno je napomenuti da britanski zakon ne kažnjava igrače za kockanje u ofšor kazinima, ali je na kraju odgovornost igrača da odmeri rizike pre registracije i uplate sredstava.
Nažalost, bankarska pitanja spadaju u ovu oblast lične odgovornosti. Ni mi ni kazino ne možemo da intervenišemo u interne procedure vaše banke. Kazino je naveo uslove pod kojima će se vaša isplata obraditi i ako odlučite da ih ne poštujete, žao mi je što vam ne mogu dalje pomoći.
Hvala vam na razumevanju.
Dear Eva & MrWest Casino,
Thank you for accepting the player’s documents and for your cooperation throughout this process.
Dear sageirsword,
I’m pleased to hear that your account has now been verified successfully.
I understand your concerns about potential issues with your bank processing the payment from the casino. However, I must clarify that our role is limited to handling complaints concerning online casinos and their direct relationship with players. Since the main issue - delayed verification - has been resolved and the casino has already released your funds for withdrawal, any further difficulties involving your bank fall outside of our scope.
Regarding your claim that the casino operates illegally: under UK legislation, only casinos holding a UKGC licence are permitted to operate officially within the UK. However, the fact that a casino’s website is accessible from the UK and accepts UK players does not necessarily mean it is "operating in the UK." Such casinos are considered offshore operators. Importantly, UK law does not penalize players for gambling at offshore casinos, but it is ultimately the player’s responsibility to weigh the risks before registering and depositing funds.
Unfortunately, banking issues fall into this area of personal responsibility. Neither we nor the casino can intervene in your bank’s internal procedures. The casino has stated the conditions under which your withdrawal will be processed, and if you choose not to comply with these, I regret that I cannot assist you further.
Uslov britanskog zakona i smernica UKGC-a je da kazino, da bi radio u Velikoj Britaniji, mora imati britansku licencu. Gospodin Vest dozvoljava igračima da se registruju iz Velike Britanije bez posedovanja važeće licence. To je protivzakonito. Prosledio sam vam imejl koji sam dobio od UKGC-a gde sam posebno pitao o gospodinu Vestu.
Nikada nisam pomenuo da igrače zakon kažnjava zbog registracije u ofšor kazinu? Takođe, nebitno je za mene jer sam se registrovao kada sam bio u Irskoj, gde gospodin Vest može da posluje.
Budimo precizni. Propisi o sprečavanju pranja novca nalažu da treba da uplaćujete i isplaćujete novac istim metodama. Uslov licence koju gospodin Vest tvrdi da poseduje. Uplatio sam novac koristeći kriptovalute. Nikada kod svoje banke. Stoga, kazino, za koji znate, krši propise o sprečavanju pranja novca tako što me tera da isplaćujem novac na bankovni račun. Prilično sam siguran da bi ovo spadalo u vašu nadležnost za pomoć igračima sa žalbama?
Ponovo, ne odbijam da podignem novac na svoj bankovni račun, ali kažem da mi nije prijatno da kršim AML kada kazino i dalje nudi kripto plaćanja na svojoj veb stranici.
Jednostavno sam tražio ime banke, broj računa i zemlju porekla iz koje će sredstva biti poslata (ironično, sve sam dostavio kazinu tokom verifikacije). Zatim mogu da obavestim svoju banku i dodam banku na listu odobrenih plaćanja. To je zbog BROJNIH žalbi na mreži gde su igrači dovedeni u ovu poziciju od strane kazina, tražili su PUN iznos na bankovni račun i nikada nisu dobili novac! Ako pogledate na Trustpilot-u, videćete igrače koji jure EBA brojeve itd. itd. i nikada ih ne dobijaju od kazina i nikada ne dobijaju nikakav dokaz od kazina da je novac poslat. Nakon 5 meseci bavljenja ovom žalbom, ne želim da budem u situaciji gde zahtevam puni iznos i nikada ga ne dobijem, a onda kažete „Ne možete mi dalje pomoći".
Takođe, u uslovima kazina nema ničega o tome da svaki igrač, svaki put kada izvrši isplatu, mora da podigne PUN iznos. Kubo, znaš da je ovo apsurdno i potpuno kontraproduktivno za model poslovanja kazina. Veoma je sumnjivo zašto se ovo od mene traži i zašto je kazino odbio da obradi moju trenutnu isplatu.
Konačno, nisam odbio da podignem novac, nisam odbio da se ispoštujem bilo šta. Tražio sam 200 evra kako bih osigurao da sredstva stignu do moje banke, kao da postoji problem, otvoriću nešto poput Revolut ili Wise naloga i zatražiti puni iznos na jedan od ovih računa jer VERUJEM (možda pogrešno) da je lakše dobiti novac na njih? Ono što radim jeste da pokušavam da delujem logično i pravedno, zviždući da operater nastavlja da se ponaša veoma sumnjivo, sigurno to vidite? Očigledno sam želeo da se ovo potpuno reši.
Hvala što si ponovo kontaktirala Evu.
It is a condition of UK law and UKGC guidelines for a casino to operate in the UK they must hold a UK license. Mr West are allowing players to sign up from the UK without a holidng a valid license. This is against the law. I have forwarded you the email I got from the UKGC where I specifically asked about Mr West.
I have never mentioned players being penalised by the law for signing up at an off shore casino? Also irrelevant to me as I signed up when I was in Ireland, where Mr West can operate.
Let's keep things accurate. AML regulations state you should deposit and withdraw to the same methods. A condition of the license Mr West purport to hold. I deposited using crypto. Never with my bank. Therefore the casino, which you are aware of, are breaching AML regulations by making me withdraw to bank. I'm pretty sure this would fall under your remit for helping players with complaints?
Again, I am not refusing to withdraw to my bank, but am stating I am not comfortable breaching AML when the caisno is still offering crypto payments on their site.
I have simply asked for the Bank name, account number and country of origin the funds will be sent from (Ironically everything I have supplied the casino during verification). I can then inform my bank and add the bank to the list of approved payments. This is due to NUMEROUS complaints online where players have been put in this position by the casino, requested the FULL balance to bank and never got the money! If you look on trustpilot you will see players chasing EBA numbers etc etc and never receiving them from the casino and never receiving any proof from the casino the money was sent. After 5 months of dealing with this complaint, I do not want to be in the situation where I request the full balance and it is never received and then you state 'You cannot help me further'.
There is also nothing in the casinos terms about every player, every time they do a withdrawal needing to withdraw the FULL amount. Kubo, you know this is absurd and completelty counter productive to a casinos operating model. This is highly suspcious then as to why this is being requested of me and why the casino has refused to process my current withdrawal.
Lastly, I have not refused to withdraw, I have not refused to comply with anything. I have requested €200 to ensure the funds reach my bank, as if there is an issue I will open something like a Revolut or Wise account and request the full balance to one of these accounts as I BELIEVE (maybe wronlgy) it's easier to get money to these? What I am doing is attempting to act logically and fairly whislt the operator, contiues to act very suspiciously, surely you can see this? I obviously wanted this fully resolved.
Možete li, molim vas, razjasniti zašto igračicina sredstva ne mogu biti vraćena putem kriptovalute, s obzirom na to da je to metoda koja je prvobitno korišćena za njene depozite?
Hvala vam na saradnji.
Dear MrWest Casino,
Could you please clarify why the player’s funds cannot be refunded via cryptocurrency, considering this was the method originally used for her deposits?
Dostupni načini plaćanja, kako za depozit tako i za isplatu, razlikuju se u zavisnosti od zemlje u kojoj se igrač nalazi - u skladu sa ugovorima i ograničenjima naših dobavljača plaćanja.
Kako je igrač promenio zemlju, dostupni načini plaćanja su sada drugačiji.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Eva Stoun
Šef za korisničko iskustvo
Kazino MrWest
Dear sageirsword & Kubo,
Thank you for your reply.
The payment methods available, both for deposit and withdrawal, are different depending on the country where the player is located - according to the agreements and limits of our payment providers.
As the player changed country, the available payment methods are different now.
Ovo je kršenje propisa o sprečavanju pranja novca, bez obzira na razloge. Kazinu takođe nije zakonski dozvoljeno da radi u Velikoj Britaniji, kao što smo utvrdili, tako da ne postoje propisi o načinima plaćanja koje su dužni da poštuju tamo.
Ponovo, odgovor „Eva" namerno ignoriše moje poente.
Već skoro 10 dana imam zahtev za isplatu od 200 evra na čekanju. Nema apsolutno nikakvog razloga zašto ovo nije moglo biti obrađeno. DA jeste i DA je moj Lojds bankomat primio novac, zatražio bih puni iznos. DA nije primljen (što mi je sumnjivo sudeći po recenzijama na drugim sajtovima i TrustPilot-u), podesio bih Wise ili Revolut i zatražio 200 evra tom metodom, da proverim da li je primljen.
Kazino nije dao NIKAKVO objašnjenje zašto pokušavaju da me nateraju da podignem punih 2000 odjednom. Kazino je takođe ignorisao moj zahtev za detaljima o banci sa koje šalju novac, broju računa i zemlji kako bih mogao da razjasnim ovo sa Lojdsom. Kao i drugi igrači na mreži, kazino pokušava da me dovede u poziciju u kojoj zahtevam sav novac, VRLO JE VEROVATO da ga neću dobiti i ostavljen sam da jurim svoju banku bez ikakve pomoći, a stvarnost je da novac verovatno nije ni poslat.
*Samo ću dodati, pre ovog odgovora, KRIPTO se i dalje prikazivao kao metod kojim sam mogao da uplatim....
U uslovima nema ničega što kaže da igrač mora da zahteva CEO svoj saldo kada vrši isplatu. Dakle, sve je ovo VRLO VRLO sumnjivo i ponovo samo služi da se odugove rešavanje celog ovog procesa.
This is in breach of AML regulations, regardless of the reasons. The casino is also not legally allowed to run in the UK, as we have established, so there are no regulations on payment methods they are required to follow there.
Again, the 'Eva' response is deliberately ignoring my points.
I have had a 200 euro withdrawal pending for almost 10 days. There is absolutely no reason this could not have been processed, HAD it been and HAD it been received by my Lloyds I would have requested the full balance. HAD it not been received (which is my suspicious as per the reviews on other sites and TrustPilot), I would have set up a wise or revolut and requested to that method, 200, to test if that is received.
The casino has provided NO explanation as to why they are trying to force me to withdraw the full 2000 in one lump sum. The casino has also ignored me requesting details of the bank they are sending the money from, account number and country so I can clear this with Lloyds. Like other players online, the casino is attempting to put me in a position where I request the full money, it is VERY LIKELY not received and I am left to chase my bank with no help, with the reality being very likely the money has not been sent.
*I will just add, prior to this response CRYPTO was still showing as a method I was able to deposit with....
There is nothing in the terms to say a player must request ALL their balance when they make a withdrawal. So this is all VERY VERY suspect and again is just serving to stall this whole process being resolved.
Već ste primili uputstva o tome kako da povučete svoja sredstva. Uspeli smo da vas zastupamo i obezbedimo verifikaciju vašeg naloga, uprkos početnom odbijanju kazina. Nažalost, u ovoj fazi ne mogu da vam pružim dodatnu pomoć. Moraćete ili da nastavite sa povlačenjem koristeći način plaćanja koji nudi kazino ili da potražite podršku negde drugde. Zaista mi je žao što vam ne mogu više pomoći.
Da budemo potpuno transparentni, pošto ste podneli formalnu žalbu AOFA-i, postoji mala mogućnost da regulator donese odluku u korist kazina. Ukoliko se to desi, kazino bi mogao imati pravo da trajno zatvori vaš nalog i zadrži vaša sredstva, i u tom slučaju, više ne bismo mogli da vam pomognemo.
Odluka je na kraju vaša i ljubazno vas molim da mi javite kako želite da nastavimo.
Hvala vam na razumevanju.
Dear sageirsword,
You have already received the instructions on how to withdraw your funds. We were able to advocate on your behalf and secure the verification of your account, despite the casino’s initial refusal. Unfortunately, at this stage, there is no further assistance I can provide. You will need to either proceed with the withdrawal using the payment method offered by the casino or seek support elsewhere. I’m truly sorry that I cannot help you further.
To be completely transparent, since you have filed a formal complaint with AOFA, there is a slight possibility that the regulator may decide in the casino’s favor. Should that happen, the casino could be entitled to permanently close your account and retain your funds, and in that case, we would no longer be able to assist you.
The decision is ultimately yours, and I kindly ask you to let me know how you wish to proceed.
Bukvalno imate žalbe na vašem sajtu koje se bave problemom za koji pretpostavljam da će se sada desiti - https://casino.guru/complaints/mrwest-casino-player-s-deposit-has-been-delayed
Na Trustpilot-u ih ima bezbroj, a igrači takođe navode istu stvar.
Ponovo, JESAM povukao svoja sredstva. 200 evra. Nikada nisam koristio banku za depozit i igru, stoga sam zatražio manji iznos isplate kako bih bio siguran da će sredstva biti primljena. Ovo je najlogičniji tok akcije. I vi i gospodin Vest ste ignorisali činjenicu da kazino traži od mene da prekršim zakon o sprečavanju pranja novca i podignem sredstva na metod koji se razlikuje od onog koji sam koristio za depozit. Bukvalno ste im dozvolili da prekrše smernice koje je propisala njihova licenca.
Takođe, maksimalni iznos za isplatu je 2000 evra. Imam 2200 evra na računu, što znači da ću morati da podignem u 2 iznosa u nekom trenutku. Dakle, nema smisla zašto kazino prvo ne bi prihvatio 200 evra? Pogledajte priloženi snimak ekrana.
Ni u jednom trenutku niste tražili od kazina da objasni zašto su me primorali da podignem puni iznos, zašto su odbili da obrade 200 evra, čak i nakon što su članovi CG na drugim delovima ovog foruma sugerisali koliko je to čudno.
Žalba AOFA se odnosila na neproveru mojih dokumenata, nema nikakve veze sa povlačenjem sredstava, ta žalba je zatvorena jer je račun verifikovan. Dakle, opet, ono što govorite je nebitno.
Zatražio sam povlačenje maksimalnog mogućeg iznosa. 2000 evra, na računu je još uvek ostalo 200 evra. Pretpostavljam da neću dobiti 2000 evra i da će se ovo nastaviti i nastaviti.
You literally have complaints on your site dealing with the issue I am assuming is now going to happen - https://casino.guru/complaints/mrwest-casino-player-s-deposit-has-been-delayed
There are countless more on Trustpilot also with players stating the same thing.
Again, I HAD withdrawn my funds. €200. I never used bank to deposit and play, therefore I requested a smaller withdrawal to ensure the funds are received. This is the most logical course of action. Both you and mr West have ignored the fact the casino is asking me to breach AML and withdraw to a method that differs from the one I used to deposit with. You literally have allowed them to breach guidelines their license provide sets out.
Also, the maximum withdrawal amount is €2000. I have €2200 in the account, meaning I will have to withdraw in 2 amounts at some stage. So it makes no sense as to why the casino would not just accept the €200 first? See the attached screenshot.
At no point have you asked the casino to explain why they have forcing me to withdraw the full amount, why they have refused to process the €200, even after members of CG on other areas of this forum have suggested how strange it is.
The AOFA complaint was in regards to not verifying my documents, nothing to do with the withdrawal of the funds, that complaint has been closed as the account has been verified. So again, what you are saying is irrelevant.
I have requested a withdrawal of the maximum amount I can. €2000, there is still €200 being left in the account. I assume I will not receive the €2000 and this will continue and continue.
Bio sam u kontaktu sa predstavnikom kazina i potvrdili su da uspešno prebacuju sredstva na isti bankovni račun koji ste koristili u prošlosti. Na osnovu ove potvrde, smatram njihov pristup prihvatljivim i u ovom trenutku nisam siguran kakvu dodatnu pomoć bih mogao da pružim da bih promenio situaciju.
Što se tiče vaše zabrinutosti u vezi sa sprečavanjem pranja novca (AML), imajte na umu da je odgovornost kazina da se pridržava standarda koje je postavio njegov regulator. Stoga oni ne zahtevaju od vas da delujete kršeći pravila AML-a. Radi daljeg pojašnjenja, AOFA eksplicitno ne zahteva od kazina da obrađuju isplate isključivo putem istog načina plaćanja koji se koristi za depozite.
Što se tiče toga zašto kazino preferira podelu isplate na način koji su predložili, ne mogu sa sigurnošću reći. To može biti povezano sa njihovim internim poslovnim praksama, koje nam nisu uvek transparentne. Međutim, ono što mogu da potvrdim jeste da nas je kazino uverio da su spremni da isplate vaš puni iznos pod navedenim uslovima.
Razumem da ovo možda nije najjednostavnije rešenje, ali na osnovu dostupnih informacija, ovo je najpouzdaniji put napred.
Hvala vam na razumevanju.
Dear sageirsword,
I have been in contact with the casino’s representative, and they confirmed that they have been successfully transferring funds to the same bank account you are using in the past. Based on this confirmation, I consider their approach acceptable, and at this point, I’m not sure what further assistance I could provide to change the situation.
Regarding your concerns about AML, please note that it is the casino’s responsibility to comply with the standards set by its regulator. They are therefore not requiring you to act in breach of AML rules. To clarify further, AOFA does not explicitly require casinos to process withdrawals strictly via the same payment method used for deposits.
As for why the casino prefers splitting the payout in the way they have suggested, I cannot say with certainty. This may relate to their internal business practices, which are not always transparent to us. What I can confirm, however, is that the casino has assured us they are willing to pay your full balance under the stated conditions.
I understand this may not be the most straightforward solution, but based on the information available, this is the most reliable way forward.
„Bio sam u kontaktu sa predstavnikom kazina i potvrdili su da uspešno prebacuju sredstva na isti bankovni račun koji ste koristili u prošlosti." Da li ste me pomešali sa nekim drugim? Već smo prošli kroz ovo. NIKADA NISAM KORISTIO BANKOVNI RAČUN U MR WEST-u . Uplaćivao sam samo putem Crypto."
„Da bismo dalje pojasnili, AOFA ne zahteva eksplicitno od kazina da obrađuju isplate isključivo putem istog načina plaćanja koji se koristi za depozit." U osnovi grešite. FATF bi ovo regulisao i oni bi takođe bili odgovorni FCA i HMRC ako šalju plaćanja britanskoj banci. Propisi o sprečavanju pranja novca regulisani su zakonom, a ne samo regulatorom koji ne reaguje.
„Međutim, ono što mogu da potvrdim jeste da nas je kazino uverio da su spremni da vam isplate puni iznos pod navedenim uslovima." Ponovo, navedeni uslovi su bili podizanje CELOG IZNOSA. Kao što je moja prethodna objava pokazala, maksimum koji sam mogao da podignem bio je 2000 evra, što je preostalo 200 evra. To znači, 1. da uslovi koje je naveo kazino nisu bili zasnovani na stvarnosti, 2. da ću uvek morati da podignem preostalih 200 evra. ZNAČI, kada sam pokušao da ga prvobitno podignem kako bih se uverio da nema problema sa prijemom novca, najLOGIČNIJA I NAJPRIJATELjSKIJA stvar za igrače bila bi da se obradi povlačenje (IZ OPSEŽNIH RAZLOGA KOJE SAM RANIJE NAVEO). To nije urađeno i povlačenje 200 evra koje sam izvršio je ostavljeno na čekanju 5 dana, a zatim otkazano.
Onih 2000 evra, koje sam nevoljno podigao pre 7 dana, još uvek nije obrađeno.
' I have been in contact with the casino’s representative, and they confirmed that they have been successfully transferring funds to the same bank account you are using in the past ' Have you got me confused with someone else? We have been over this. I HAVE NEVER USED BANK ACCOUNT AT MR WEST. I have only ever deposited with Crypto.
' To clarify further, AOFA does not explicitly require casinos to process withdrawals strictly via the same payment method used for deposit' You are fundamentally wrong here. The FATF would govern this and they would also be accountable to the FCA and HMRC if they are sending payments to a UK bank. AML regulations are governed by law, not only a non responsive shell regulator.
'What I can confirm, however, is that the casino has assured us they are willing to pay your full balance under the stated conditions.' Again, the stated conditions were to withdraw the FULL BALANCE. As my previous post showed the max I could withdraw was €2000, leaving €200 left. Meaning, 1, the casinos stated conditions were not based in reality, 2, I will always have to withdraw the remaining €200. MEANING, when I attempted to withdraw it intially to ensure there were no issues receiving the money, the most LOGICAL AND PLAYER FRIENDLY thing to do, would have been to process the withdrawal (FOR THE EXTENSIVE REASONS I OUTLINED BEFORE). That was not done and the withdrawal for the €200 I made was left pending for 5 days and then cancelled.
THe €2000, I reluctantly withdrew 7 days ago, has not been processed.
Dozvolite mi da još jednom odgovorim na vaša nedoumice:
Izvinjavam se zbog prethodnog nesporazuma - pod „ istim bankovnim računom " mislio sam na račun koji se vodi u istoj banci ( Lojds banka ). Predstavnik kazina je eksplicitno potvrdio da su isplate prethodno obrađene u ovoj banci bez ikakvih problema.
Pokrećete valjanu poentu - obaveze u vezi sa sprečavanjem pranja novca na kraju proizilaze iz zakona (i međunarodnih standarda kao što je FATF), a ne samo iz Zakona o slobodnoj trgovini (AOFA). Moja poenta je jednostavno bila da sam AOFA ne nalaže strogu obradu isplata „ istom metodom ". Međutim, priznajem da u praksi, kazina i njihovi procesori plaćanja takođe moraju da uzmu u obzir zahteve jurisdikcija u kojima se sredstva primaju - na primer, obaveze Ujedinjenog Kraljevstva prema FCA i HMRC kada isplate idu na račune u Velikoj Britaniji. Uz to rečeno, imajte na umu da mi u Casino Guru nismo advokati i ne možemo dati definitivne smernice o primeni međunarodnih regulatornih ili pravnih okvira. Naša uloga je ograničena na procenu praksi kazina u odnosu na njihove zahteve za licenciranje i naše interne standarde fer-pleja, tako da nažalost nismo u poziciji da detaljno rešavamo zabrinutosti u vezi sa obavezama FATF-a, FCA ili HMRC-a.
Ovi uslovi i dalje važe - Kao što je ranije pomenuto, predstavnik kazina je izjavio da ćete dobiti puni iznos, pri čemu će prvo biti obrađena maksimalna moguća serija, a zatim preostali deo vašeg stanja. Ovo može biti povezano sa njihovim internim poslovnim praksama, koje nam nisu uvek transparentne.
Hvala vam na razumevanju.
Poštovani gospodine Vest Kazino,
Da li biste mogli ljubazno da pregledate trenutni zahtev igrača za povlačenje sredstava podnet 10. septembra i da nam objasnite zašto još uvek nije obrađen?
Hvala vam.
Dear sageirsword,
Please allow me to address your concerns once again:
Sorry for the earlier misunderstanding - by "the same bank account," I meant an account held at the same bank (Lloyds Bank). The casino representative explicitly confirmed that withdrawals had previously been processed to this bank without any issues.
You raise a valid point - AML obligations do ultimately derive from law (and international standards such as FATF), not just AOFA. My point was simply that AOFA does not itself mandate strict "same method" withdrawal processing. However, I acknowledge that in practice, casinos and their payment processors must also consider the requirements of the jurisdictions in which funds are received - for example, the UK’s FCA and HMRC obligations when withdrawals go to UK accounts. That said, please note that we at Casino Guru are not lawyers and cannot provide definitive guidance on the application of international regulatory or legal frameworks. Our role is limited to assessing casinos’ practices against their licensing requirements and our internal fair-play standards, so we are unfortunately not in a position to address concerns relating to FATF, FCA, or HMRC obligations in detail.
These conditions still apply - As mentioned earlier, the casino representative has stated that you will receive the full amount, with the maximum possible batch to be processed first, followed by the remainder of your balance. This may relate to their internal business practices, which are not always transparent to us.
Thank you for your understanding.
Dear MrWest Casino,
Could you kindly review the player’s current withdrawal request submitted on September 10 and advise why it has not yet been processed?
Hvala vam na obaveštenju - drago mi je da čujem da je vaše povlačenje uspešno završeno. Molim vas, pošaljite novi zahtev za povlačenje preostalog iznosa i ljubazno me obavestite kada bude obrađen.
Hvala vam na saradnji.
Dear sageirsword,
Thank you for the update - I’m glad to hear that your withdrawal has been successfully completed. Please go ahead and submit a new withdrawal request for the remaining balance, and kindly let me know once it has been processed.
Produžavamo tajmer za 7 dana. Molim vas da znate da ukoliko ne odgovorite u zadato vreme ili ne pružite asistenciju, mi ćemo da odbijemo prigovor.
Dear sageirsword,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Hvala ti CG za sve što si uradio. Ali ne bi trebalo da imaš ovaj kazino ili njegovu grupu na svom sajtu. Znaš šta su uradili da bi bili izbačeni sa Malte i znaš da bi 9 od 10 ljudi odustalo u ovoj situaciji i/ili bacilo novac. Imati ih na svom sajtu sa tako dobrom ocenom bez ikakvih upozorenja o njihovom ponašanju ili istoriji je za žaljenje.
Yes. After 7 months of hell it has finally been received.
Thank you CG for all you have done. But you SHOULD not have this casino or it's group on your site. You know what they did to get chucked out of Malta and you know 9 out of 10 people would have given up in this situation and/or spaffed the money away. Having them on your site with such a good rating with no warnings on their behaviour or history is deplorable.
Veoma mi je drago da čujem da su vaša sredstva konačno primljena i da smo mogli da vam pomognemo u rešavanju ovog problema.
Što se tiče vaše zabrinutosti u vezi sa pozicijom kazina na našoj platformi i njegovim indeksom bezbednosti, potpuno razumem vaše gledište. Međutim, važno je napomenuti da je naša procena kazina zasnovana na širokom spektru faktora - uključujući pravednost njihovih Uslova i odredbi, efikasnost njihovih finansijskih transakcija, njihovu posvećenost odgovornom kockanju, njihov pristup žalbama igrača i njihov opšti stav „kao profesionalac".
Iako su iskustva igrača svakako vredna, ona često mogu biti subjektivna. Stoga se prvenstveno fokusiramo na operativne prakse kazina - ne samo na ono što je napisano na njihovoj veb stranici ili podeljeno u recenzijama.
U vašem konkretnom slučaju, kazino je prvobitno odlučio da vaša podneta dokumenta ne ispunjavaju uslove za verifikaciju. Kao što se možda sećate, žalba je prvobitno zatvorena kao nerešena jer je kazino više puta odbijao vaše pokušaje KYC-a. U potpunosti sam razumeo vašu zabrinutost i nastavio sam da se zalažem za vaš slučaj. Najvažnije je da je kazino na kraju ponovo razmotrio svoju odluku, završio vašu verifikaciju i vratio vam sredstva.
Iako možda i dalje smatrate da je postupak bio nepravedan, vredi naglasiti da ne bi svaki kazino ponovo razmotrio takvu odluku i dozvolio povlačenje nakon početnog odbijanja. Iz tog razloga, verujem da je trenutna pozicija kazina na našoj platformi i dalje opravdana i pošteno zaslužena.
Hvala vam na saradnji! Ako u budućnosti naiđete na bilo kakve dalje probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom, slobodno se obratite našem Centru za rešavanje žalbi . Tu smo da vam pomognemo!
Iako ne naplaćujemo naknade niti prihvatamo bakšiš, vaše povratne informacije su nam izuzetno važne. Bili bismo vam veoma zahvalni ako biste odvojili trenutak da podelite svoje mišljenje naTrustpilot-u (link ovde) . Iskrena recenzija, zajedno sa svim predlozima za poboljšanje našeg procesa rešavanja žalbi i medijacije, bila bi izuzetno vredna. Vaši uvidi mogu pomoći drugima koji se možda suočavaju sa sličnim problemima.
Unapred vam hvala na podršci u unapređenju naših usluga!
Srdačan pozdrav,
Kubo
Dear sageirsword,
I’m really glad to hear that your funds have finally been received and that we were able to assist you in resolving this issue.
Regarding your concerns about the casino’s position on our platform and its safety index, I completely understand your point of view. However, it’s important to note that our evaluation of casinos is based on a wide range of factors - including the fairness of their Terms and Conditions, the efficiency of their financial transactions, their commitment to responsible gambling, their approach to player complaints, and their overall pro-player attitude.
While players’ experiences are certainly valuable, they can often be subjective. Therefore, we focus primarily on the casino’s operational practices - not just what’s written on their website or shared in reviews.
In your particular case, the casino initially decided that your submitted documents did not meet the verification requirements. As you may recall, the complaint was first closed as unresolved because the casino repeatedly rejected your KYC attempts. I fully understood your concerns and continued to advocate for your case. What’s most important is that the casino ultimately reconsidered its decision, completed your verification, and released your funds.
Although you may still feel the process was unfair, it’s worth emphasizing that not every casino would revisit such a decision and allow a withdrawal after the initial rejection. For that reason, I believe the casino’s current position on our platform remains justified and fairly earned.
Thank you for your cooperation! If you encounter any further issues with this or any other casino in the future, please don’t hesitate to reach out to our Complaint Resolution Center. We’re here to assist you!
While we don’t charge fees or accept tips, your feedback is incredibly important to us. We would greatly appreciate it if you could take a moment to share your thoughts on Trustpilot (link here). An honest review, along with any suggestions for improving our complaint resolution and mediation process, would be extremely valuable. Your insights can help others who may be facing similar issues.
Thank you in advance for your support in helping us enhance our services!
Best regards,
Kubo
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