draga draga,
Mislim da maksimalna nagrada u tim pravilima znači nešto drugo. Postoji maksimalna nagrada "100% Depozit Cash Match" za "Keš Bonus", što pre označava procenat depozita igrača koji je dodat na nalog kao bonus sa povezanim depozitom. Dakle, nisam čak ni siguran šta tačno "35k Boost" znači u ovom slučaju. U svakom slučaju, tu ne vidim ništa o maksimalnom kešautu, osim pravila na koje se pozivaju, a koje smatramo nepravednim.
Dragi Joia Casino timu ,
Obično, posebna pravila za bonuse preovladavaju nad opštim pravilima. Informacija na baneru za ponudu depozita dobrodošlice bila je jasna – „Nema maksimalne gotovine". Nisam siguran kako bismo ovu informaciju mogli smatrati irelevantnom ili da nije uticala na "iskustvo" korisnika. Međutim, čak i ako to nije uticalo na njegovo iskustvo, definitivno je uticalo na njegov dobitak... Zašto govorimo o iskustvu?
Zašto bi neko čitao Uslove i odredbe zbog nečega jasnog iz banera i/ili posebnih pravila za bonus?
Ovo je pravilo iz odeljka „Prikaži više" u ponudi depozita dobrodošlice (deo Boost Bonusa):

- Usuđujem se da tvrdim da većina igrača ne čita pune uslove i odredbe; međutim, to nije razlog da kazino kreira i primenjuje nepoštena pravila na svoje dobitke ili im daje pogrešne informacije, očekujući da će pročitati pune uslove i odredbe, tražeći kontradiktorna nepoštena pravila koja bi se mogla primeniti na njihove dobitke, posebno ako veliki baner kaže da nema maksimalnog isplate, a posebna pravila za isplatu bonusa ne govore ništa o maksimalnoj gotovini; Nisam mogao da nađem ništa o tome ni u delu „Promocije" u odredbama i uslovima kazina
- Kao što je već pomenuto, mi generalno smatramo da su pravila poput 7.10 (ograničavanje dobitaka igrača na osnovu njihovih depozita) nepravedna, posebno ako se to odnosi na depozite i dobitke od stvarnog novca, što će se, verujem, odraziti na rejting kazina u sredu; iako je kazino uklonio baner, to ne menja situaciju korisnika i da mu je kazino dao netačne informacije, bez obzira da li je greška ili ne
- Pravilo 7.10 takođe uključuje ovaj uslov -> " Uslov za depozit: Popunite 5 depozita sa ukupnim akumuliranim iznosom od najmanje €250. " Koliko je depozita napravio i koliko je ukupno položio? Koliko on treba da položi da bi kazino smatrao da je to dovoljno za povlačenje svih njegovih dobitaka? Da li sam dobro razumeo da ako je napravio manje od 5 depozita, bilo bi u redu da je napravio samo jedan depozit da bi dostigao iznos deponovanog iznosa od 250 evra i da bi imao pravo da podigne sve svoje dobitke/bilans? Ili kako to kazino zamišlja, molim vas? Ili zašto bi kazino konfiskovao njegov dobitak ako je i dalje u stanju da ispuni „Uslov za depozit" i sve povuče?
U svakom slučaju, nema smisla. Situacija i okolnosti su jasne, a naš stav je već objašnjen.
Ako ne možete da nam pružite ništa relevantno ili smisleno, možete li nam jednostavno dati jasne informacije o tome koja je konačna odluka kazina u vezi sa tim? Da li je kazino u stanju i voljan da preispita svoju odluku ili ostaje nepromenjena?
Imajte na umu da ovaj put nećemo nepotrebno odlagati proces, pa čak i ako izbegnete da odgovorite na moja poslednja pitanja o konačnoj odluci kazina, žalba će biti zatvorena na osnovu prikupljenih informacija.
Hvala na razumevanju. Radujemo se Vašem odgovoru.
Dear hoshy,
I think that the maximum prize in those rules means something different. There is the maximum prize "100% Deposit Cash Match" for the "Cash Bonus", which rather indicates the % of a player's deposit added to an account as a bonus with a related deposit. So, I am not even sure what exactly "35x Boost" means in this case. Anyway, I cannot see anything about the maximum cashout at all there, except the rule they referred to, which we consider unfair.
Dear Joya Casino Team,
Usually, bonus-specific rules prevail over general rules. The information on the banner for the Welcome Deposit Offer was clear - "No max cash out". I am not sure how we could consider this information irrelevant or that it did not influence the user's "experience". However, even if it did not influence his experience, it definitely influenced his winnings... Why are we talking about an experience?
Why would anyone read the Terms and Conditions due to something clear from the banner and/or bonus-specific rules?
This is a rule from the "View More" section of the Welcome Deposit Offer (Boost Bonus part):

- I dare to claim that most players do not read the full Terms and Conditions; however, that is not a reason for the casino to create and apply unfair rules to their winnings or provide them with misleading information, expecting they will read the full Terms and Conditions, searching for contradictory unfair rules that could be applied to their winnings, especially if a big banner says there is no maximum cashout and bonus-specific rules says nothing about the maximum cashout either; I could not find anything about it in the "Promotions" part of the casino's Terms and Conditions either
- As was already mentioned, we generally consider rules like 7.10 (limiting players' winnings based on their deposits) unfair, especially if it is related to real money deposits and winnings, which will be reflected in the casino's rating on Wednesday, I believe; although the casino removed the banner, it does not change the user's situation and that the casino provided him with incorrect information, regardless of it being a mistake or not
- Rule 7.10 also includes this condition -> "Deposit Requirement: Complete 5 deposits with a total accumulated amount of at least €250." How many deposits did he make, and how much did he deposit in total? How much is he supposed to deposit so the casino considers it sufficient for withdrawing all his winnings? Do I understand correctly that if he made less than 5 deposits, it would be alright if he made only one deposit to reach the €250 deposited amount, and he would be eligible to withdraw all his winnings/balance? Or how does the casino imagine it, please? Or why should the casino confiscate his winnings if he is still able to meet the "Deposit Requirement" and withdraw everything?
Anyway, it makes no sense at all. The situation and circumstances are clear, and our position was already explained.
If there is nothing relevant or meaningful you can provide us with, can you simply provide us with clear information on what is the casino's final decision regarding the matter? Is the casino able and willing to reconsider its decision, or does it remain unchanged?
Please note that we will not drag the process out unnecessarily this time, and even if you avoid answering my last questions about the casino's final decision, the complaint will be closed based on the gathered information.
Thank you for understanding. Looking forward to hearing from you.
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