WestCasino - opšta diskusija (strana 8)

It's all crap. They've had 9 passport pics and a video. You can see everythings clear. They simply want to commit theft as I said I was closing my account.

It's been two days and no responses on the complaint.

Just seems like no one wants to help players anymore and they allowing casinos to scam players.

In the upper right corner you have a timer that shows how long each side has to answer. Unfortunately, Tomas has not only your complaint but a lot of others and therefore it is not easy to answer right away. He tries to do what he can to make sure that every player with whom he has a complaint doesn't wait too long. So you don't need to be afraid that he doesn't want to help, but you need to be patient. I'm sure he'll get to you soon. 

Just a little update -

Tomas response -

Dear all,

After discussing the case internally, we would expect the casino to agree to a verification call, as we don't see any issue with the documents submitted thus far. A verification call should allow the casino to dispel any concerns regarding the documents already provided.

Dear WestCasino,

please make it happen and let us know about the result.

West Casino response -

Hello masonjones,

Thank you for your reply!

I'm not sure why you are not willing to collaborate for the verification process.

A photo as requested can be easily taken with any smartphone or camera in proper lighting. Refusing to provide this will only delay the process further.

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They are just trying to ignore reality. Ive sent over 7 pictures, done a video, agreed to a live video (they've said no). They ignored the picture I sent 6 days ago. Casinoguru have said the pictures are clear, ECOGRA have said they are clear. Everyone else is wrong but West. They are attempted theft and are scammers.

I went to citizens advice on friday and they have told me to instruct solicitors. So Ive done that.

Another terrific response from these criminals -

Hello masonjones,

Thank you for your reply!

If you don't wish to comply with our requests, you can wait for your eCogra complaint to be resolved.

We have provided them with all the relevant information related to your case.

All the best,

Eduard

Just a reminder on the reality -

Reality

7 Passport Pictures sent in.

1 video sent in.

Proof no metadata has been changed.

The last picture sent in 6 days ago not reviewed nor responded to.

Casino Guru employees (Multiple) and ECOGRA stated all pictures are clear.

Player has offered to do a verification Call. West Casino have refused.

Random stranger at West Casino claiming everyone is wrong and they are right in saying the images are not clear.

Random stranger at West Casino not stating which area is not clear and refusing attempts to resolve.

EU consumer law/Carribjustice courts dictate if a vendor refuses a consumers custom they are legally obliged to refund deposits. West Casino are breaking the law.

Solicitors are instructed.

I have looked into your complaint and I have also consulted with Tomas. I honestly can't say what more the casino wants from you. When you say that eCorga has decided that the photos are also clear enough, that's good news. I think call would be able to solve it and they would see everything, but I don't understand this attitude from their perspective. 

And so I think if there is not a reasonable agreement, there will probably be consequences. Especially if the authority is on your side.

I will be interested in further developments, so be sure to let me know if you happen to have any other relevant information. 

After a month all that has happened is Tomas has closed the complaint and said the above…

The complaint is with ECOGRA. But from what I’ve found out they are funded by casinos so why would they side with me?

I had done the complaint on this public forum so other players could see the conduct of West and Casino Guru could help me actually get answers.

All that’s currently happened is West have been able to reject everything with invalid reasons, refuse requests to do a video and then ignore my last picture I sent in?

None of this has helped at all.

It is unfortunately a procedure that is the same for every player. If you make a complaint to the authority, it's basically in their hands and their decision is more important. So that's why it's been closed like this for now. We usually advise players to complain to the authority when we can't help, so unfortunately it's like this at the moment. 

But you know our view on the situation and I'm curious to hear what they have to say. You said that eCorga told you that your photos are clearly visible and that's the whole case here, so from what you stated, it doesn't seem to me that they are in cahoots with the casino. 

As soon as you have concrete information and the result, let me know. 

I'll keep my fingers crossed. 🤞

The other post should be linked to West Casino page on CG.

How can CG give West and 8.5 yet users rate it terrible? Having looked at the players complaint and the way West behave I think this should be updated. This kind of behaviour can make people mentally sick.

Sorry, but I do not understand which post you have in mind or what exactly you mean.🤷‍♀️

Do you have some kind of issue with this casino that we could help you with, perhaps?

Whenever you look at the reviews of any online casino on our website, you will find this tab there where the safety index is always explained, so everyone can better understand what we give it for. Sometimes the user experience could be bad at a better casino, and sometimes it could go the other way around. Only if players file a complaint about this casino will the safety index be affected. If you wish, here you can read something more about how it actually works.

Please let us know if we can be of any help.

Think shes referring to my post here - https://casino.guru/forum/complaints-discussion/west-casino-dark-side-mga-ecogra-solicitors---a-case-study-live-updates/2#post-120727

Yes, it's quite possible that's what the player meant. It's not all good as it turned out, but I hope it's not all over yet and fairness will eventually prevail. 🤞

I think my thread should be linked.

There will be other players who are going through this hell!

What do you mean, the one you posted before is linked. Do you mean your complaint or something else ?

If the payment delay is the case, then I am told that the documents are unreadable...corners cut off? Huh!??

And they wanted more and more of the actual documents that are required for a payout, my whole life so to speak.

Now a complaint is pending regarding payout etc...today as in the picture I continued playing with a stake of €240 per spin round and then came to €61,252.95.

Wrote an email trying to find a solution, an agreement, a compromise on the amount, I would have given up some of it. Well, and got to work, solution, compromise or lawyer and court? Of course worded differently 😜 shortly afterwards I wanted to log in, but was blocked, which means we don't care, bye 😏👎 😡 said yesterday in the chat that I've been fooled for two days now, including with regard to the documents, and they weren't uploaded via screenshot but re-photographed, but still unreadable and in processing again or not even started 😡

What else can I do apart from a lawyer and going to court? Report them? If so, where?

Kind regards, René

Auszahlung Verzögerung trifft es zu,dann wird mir erzählt Dokumente nicht lesbar....Ecken abgeschnitten? Hä!??

Und von die eigentlichen Dokumente die Standard eingefordert werden für eine Auszahlung wollten sie mehr und mehr haben mein ganzes Leben sozusagen.

Jetzt läuft eine Beschwerde wegen Auszahlung etc...heute wie im Bild spielte ich weiter mit Einsatz 240€ pro Spin Runde kam dann bis vorhin. Auf 61.252.95€

Schrieb per E-Mail versuchte Lösung zu finden eine Einigung ein Kompromiss der Summe hätte auch auf etwas davon verzichtet. Naja und setzte mit ran,Lösung Kompromiss oder Anwalt und Gericht? Natürlich anders formuliert 😜 kurz danach will ich mich einloggen geblockt, was heißt uns egal tschüss 😏👎 😡 sagte gestern im Chat habe mich jetzt zwei Tage verarschen lassen auch was die Dokumente betrifft und sie waren nicht per Screenshot sondern neu abfotografiert hochgeladen trotzdem nicht lesbar und wieder in Bearbeitung bzw nicht mal angefangen 😡

Was kann ich noch machen außer Anwalt und Gericht? Sie melden? Wenn ja wo??

MfG René

If you have a similar problem as the player before you, I would try to file a complaint with us and see what can be done. So obviously you didn't pass the verification as you describe, and did you send the document that the casino said was not readable again ? Did you ask why your account was blocked? No compromise as you say was agreed upon ? 

My situation was different, they fully verified my account even I was coming from a blacklisted country.

So my id, bank account,income proof etc.all this documents.They allowed me to deposit real money after they blocked my account and they told me I broke they're terms and conditions!!

This casino is insanely scamming people.

Well, I have read a case that was also closed here as unjustified. Branislav explained in detail several times how it works and why some situations occurred.

I think you also have to be aware that not everything works the way you might have seen it, and so although I am sorry, we tried to resolve it as fairly as possible. 

At the very least, it was an experience for you to keep an eye out for such things. 

Funny fact is they didn't reply to any of my emails, requests from January 2023.

So imagine how sneaky they are.

On chatt support I go and they said always we can't help you because you're not logged in,and I've said how I can login if my account is blocked? And they told me always,send an email,and I explain to them that I've sent many emails and I don't get answers,and I repeat the Story,is like a loop,and they simply refuse any answers.comunication

A complaint was submitted, verification is available... Shortly afterwards I tried again by email, but in vain. They are callous and don't care at all. Since a considerable sum is involved, my account was blocked. Then I came an email with the same request for documents... to which I just said I don't have the strength, I don't feel like stalling any longer, even though enough documents had been requested and submitted several times, clearly and neatly. I then suggested a compromise by email that I would at least get the €2000 that had already been requested, a small part of the €61,000, and I would be so generous and give the rest away, but then the chapter would be closed. So I told them to let me know, otherwise they already know about the court system with lawsuits and damages, and then I will have to go to court with my lawyer and two others. Well, the question now is, will you or your people manage to resolve this without any problems or will it end up in court?

Beschwerde wurde eingereicht, Überprüfung ist vorhanden...Kurz danach habe ich es nochmal versucht per E-Mail,aber vergebens.die sind abgebrüht und es interessiert die null.da es bei einer beträchtliche Summe geht,wurde mein Account geblockt. Dann kam eine Email mit mit der gleichen Aufforderung der Dokumenten... daraufhin sagte ich nur keine Kraft keine Lust mehr mich hinzuhalten,obwohl genug Dokumente die verlangt worden eingereicht mehrfach sauber und klar . Daraufhin habe ich per Mail ein Kompromiss vorgeschlagen das ich wenigstens die 2000€ die schon beantragt worden sind bekomme,mit unter von den 61.000€ ein klein Teil, wäre so großzügig und würde davon den Rest Schenken krank aber dann wäre das Kapitel abgeschlossen. Somit habe ich ihnen gesagt sollen es mich wissen lassen,andern falls kennen sie ja das Gericht mit klagen und Schadensersatz schon,dann muss ich mit mein Anwalt und zwei weiteren vors Gericht ziehen. Tja die Frage ist nun werden Sie bzw ihre Leute es schaffen ohne Probleme dies zu lösen oder wird's eine gerichtliche Geschichte?

Going to court is a solution against this scammers,but the whole process can take years and thousands of euro involved for the lawsuit companies.

This casino refuse to stand up and deal with clients issues,is easy for them to hide behind they're messy Terms and conditions.

Even they're license Holder,MGA Authority don't do anything against them,for 1 year I showed them the illegality and nobody did anything against.

My opinion is stay away for online casinos with such bad reviews like westcasino