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My RetroBet account is fully verified, including full KYC and Source of Wealth documentation. My current balance of NZD 81,920.95 is marked as withdrawable.

I have never accepted any bonuses or promotional offers.

RetroBet has reduced my withdrawal limit after paying out one payment of $7,500 to NZD 1,500 per week due to a VIP wagering threshold clause. At this rate, it will take approximately 55 weeks to withdraw my verified funds.

The casino has suggested increasing betting activity to restore higher withdrawal limits. I am not willing to gamble further in order to access my own funds.

I acknowledge the clause exists in their VIP terms. However, I believe applying it in a way that results in more than a one-year withdrawal timeframe is excessive and disproportionate given:

- No bonus usage

- No breach of terms

- Full compliance completed

- Withdrawable balance confirmed

I am requesting mediation to secure a reasonable accelerated payout arrangement (e.g., staged weekly payments allowing withdrawal within 3–4 months), or an initial lump sum payout.

I am not alleging confiscation — only that the imposed structure is very unreasonable.

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Hello,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your negative experience with Retro Bet Casino.

Please allow me to ask you a few questions so I can better understand the situation.

• When was the last time you managed to withdraw winnings?
• Are any payouts currently pending?
• Could you please share with me your communication with the casino regarding the withdrawal limits? Send emails or chat transcripts to my email at tomas@casino.guru, or post screenshots here

I hope we will be able to help you resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.

Best regards,

Tomas

Hi Tomas

Ive sent you all the screenshots of my communications with the casino.

I only managed to withdraw once about 2 weeks ago.

I would like to add further context to my complaint regarding RetroBet’s withdrawal policy and its impact on player welfare.

At the time my balance was approximately NZD 81,920.95 and fully verified as withdrawable. I had not accepted any bonuses or promotional wagering conditions. All KYC and Source of Wealth documentation had been approved.

RetroBet applied a withdrawal limit of NZD 1,500 per week due to not meeting a weekly wagering threshold of NZD 7,500. At that rate, it would take approximately 55 weeks to withdraw my own verified winnings.

While technically a withdrawal was available, the structure of the policy created a significant financial and psychological pressure.

I was informed that if I wagered NZD 7,500 within the week, I would qualify for the NZD 7,500 weekly withdrawal limit instead.

This effectively incentivised further gambling in order to gain reasonable access to already-won funds.

As someone who struggles with gambling impulse control, this system created a harmful dynamic:

- Winnings were withheld over an extended period.

- A clear wagering target was presented to unlock faster withdrawals.

- The only way to materially reduce the 12-month payout timeframe was to gamble further.

Under responsible gambling principles, players should not be encouraged or incentivised to continue gambling in order to access their own withdrawable balances.

After initially attempting to resolve the matter amicably, I ultimately felt pressured into further wagering in order to meet the NZD 7,500 threshold. During that process, I lost a substantial portion of my winnings.

I believe that a withdrawal structure that:

- Delays access to funds for nearly a year, and

- Encourages additional gambling activity as the only realistic way to shorten that delay,

is inconsistent with responsible gambling standards and creates foreseeable harm to vulnerable players.

I am requesting that RetroBet be required to pay the full amount of NZD 86,920 (the balance prior to further wagering), or that an equitable remedy be considered given the structural pressure imposed by their withdrawal policy.

Since submitting my original complaint, I would like to add further context regarding the impact of Retrobet’s withdrawal structure.

At the time my balance exceeded NZD 80,000, my withdrawals were restricted to NZD 1,500 per week unless I met a wagering threshold of NZD 7,500 per week under the VIP Club terms.

This effectively meant it would take approximately 55 weeks to withdraw my verified winnings.

For a player holding a very large balance, this structure creates significant psychological pressure. In my case, it resulted in me feeling compelled to continue wagering in order to qualify for higher withdrawal limits.

I had not accepted any bonuses and there were no wagering requirements attached to my winnings. However, the conditional withdrawal structure created a scenario where gambling more was presented as the only way to access funds within a reasonable timeframe.

For someone vulnerable to gambling behaviours, this structure does not align with responsible gambling principles. A system that requires continued gambling to unlock access to already-won funds can increase risk and encourage further play.

As a result of this structure and the delays involved, I continued wagering and suffered substantial losses.

I am requesting that CasinoGuru review whether Retrobet’s withdrawal policy — particularly linking withdrawal limits to ongoing wagering activity — complies with responsible gambling standards and fair practice expectations.

I believe the structure itself materially contributed to further gambling activity that otherwise would not have occurred and I wish to be compensated by Retrobet.

Dear Captainplanet37,

Thank you for your cooperation and for providing all the necessary information. I truly appreciate the time and effort you’ve taken to share everything with us so far.

Your complaint will now move to the next stage of our process and be handled by your dedicated Resolver, Matej (matej.l@casino.guru). This is a standard step in our procedure, as the Resolver will take over communication with the casino directly and manage your case from this point onward.

No action is required from you right now. Your Resolver will reach out through this thread if any additional details are needed. You can rest assured that your case is in very capable hands.

I wish you the best of luck and hope your case will be resolved to your satisfaction soon.

Kind regards,

Tomas

Hello Captainplanet37, nice to meet you!

My name is Matej and I will be taking care of your complaint going forward. I've just reviewed this case and fully appreciate your concerns regarding the withdrawal limit. I'll do my best to help you resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you for providing the information I needed. If I require any further details, I will reach out to you directly.

I’d like to invite a representative of Retro Bet Casino to join the conversation and participate in the investigation of this case as well. Could you please provide more details as of why this player’s withdrawal limit has been limited, given the situation? I would also appreciate if the casino could provide us with any and all relevant evidence. Any sensitive information or internal system files can be shared with me directly by e-mail matej.l@casino.guru.

Thank you for your patience and cooperation in advance.

In addition to the previously described withdrawal limitations, I would like to highlight the email sent by the casino manager after my win. In this message, the casino acknowledged the slow withdrawal process and offered to increase my withdrawal limits if I generated loyalty points through further wagering.

This effectively created a situation where the only way to access my winnings within a reasonable timeframe was to continue gambling. For a player holding a very large balance, this structure created significant psychological pressure to keep playing.

I believe this approach is inconsistent with responsible gambling principles and materially contributed to the losses that occurred.

Dear Captainplanet37, this is a standard procedure, where withdrawal limits are directly linked to the player's VIP status. Once you win big and stop playing, your level gets automatically lowered and that affects your withdrawal limits. Is it annoying and looks like a shady move on the casino side? Definitely. May it persuade you to leave (once you have your money) and start playing in another casino that doesn't do this? I would expect so. But to be clear - in no way it is connected to responsible gambling. RG is about protecting vulnerable players and gambling addicts, nothing to do with withdrawals.

With this being said, a limit of 1,500 per week is literally half of what the casino is stating in their T&C, so this will definitely need to be investigated. Especially given the high rating the casino has, this move looks very unprofessional. As for yourself, please do not try to wager the money to reach higher VIP level or do not engage in any proposed schemes, for the time being. We don't want you to gamble away your winnings before the case has a chance to get investigated. Thank you.

We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.

Hello,

Thank you for your time and for reviewing this case. We would like to clarify the situation in more detail.

The player’s concern relates to the adjustment of withdrawal limits applied to their account. As the player held VIP status, their activity was governed by the VIP Club Terms, including the provisions regulating withdrawal limits.

In particular, the adjustment was applied in line with clause 5 of the VIP Club Terms, which states:

If the player's total bet amount is less than 5,000 EUR/USD per week or 20,000 EUR/USD per month, the Casino reserves the right to reduce the withdrawal limits to 1,000 EUR/USD per week and 5,000 EUR/USD per month.

Additionally, clause 6 defines the standard limits for VIP players:

For VIP-club members, the weekly withdrawal limit is 5,000 EUR/USD, or its equivalent in other currencies, including BTC. The monthly limit is 20,000 EUR/USD or its equivalent in other currencies, including BTC.

In this case, the player’s betting volume did not meet the thresholds outlined above, which resulted in the adjustment of withdrawal limits in accordance with these rules.

At the same time, it is important to emphasize that the player’s ability to withdraw funds was not restricted. All withdrawal requests were processed successfully and in line with the applicable limits, and the player was able to complete multiple withdrawals during this period.

Withdrawal limits of this nature are a standard industry practice and form part of the normal operational framework. They regulate the pace of withdrawals rather than limit access to funds.

At present, the player no longer has any balance on the account, as the available funds were either withdrawn or subsequently used for gameplay.

Should you require any additional details or supporting information, we will be happy to provide them directly via email.

Thank you for your response.

I would like to clarify a key point regarding the withdrawal limits applied.

Based on your explanation:

- Standard VIP withdrawal limits are stated as €5,000 per week

- Reduced limits may be applied to €1,000 per week if wagering thresholds are not met

However, in my case, the withdrawal limit applied was approximately $1,500 NZD per week, which does not clearly align with either of these categories.

Additionally, I would like to highlight that leading up to and at the time of my win:

- I deposited approximately $9,500 NZD

- I built my balance up to approximately $86,000 NZD

- I was actively playing during this period

Given this level of activity, I would appreciate clarification as to how it was determined that my account did not meet the required thresholds.

Furthermore, at a withdrawal rate of approximately $1,500 per week, it would take over a year to withdraw the full balance.

I would appreciate clarification as to how such a timeframe aligns with fair and transparent withdrawal practices, particularly for a player who had achieved VIP status.

Could you please confirm:

1. Which specific withdrawal limit category my account was placed under at the time of my win

2. How the $1,500 NZD weekly limit was calculated

3. At what point my VIP status or withdrawal limits were adjusted relative to my win

Thank you for your clarification.

Thank you for the details, Retro Bet Casino. There are few issues with your statement, though, I would like to discuss.

As the player mentioned himself, even if the withdrawal limit is lowered down to 1,000 USD per week, it should still be at least 1,700 NZD per week, not 1,500. To withdraw 86,000 NZD like this would take 13 months to withdraw, which is unthinkable.

The player has the VIP status during the wagering and winning, and Casino Guru considers it quite unfair to use the withdrawal limit change as a way to force recovering some of the winnings by the casino.

Most importantly, your Terms and Conditions clearly states the following:

11.9 The weekly withdrawal limit is 3,000 EUR/USD or it’s equivalent in other currencies, including BTC. The monthly limit is 15,000 EUR/USD or its equivalent in other currencies, including BTC. All progressive jackpot wins will be paid in full.

This way it seems like it is more beneficial to not be a VIP member of the casino, as the withdrawal limits would be much higher even if not playing. I would need some clarification on this point, please, because our review of Retro Bet Casino states withdrawal limits as the ones mentioned in term 11.9. However, we always display the lowest possible option, to ensure we provide the most accurate information. If you keep adhering to the Bonus term 5:

5. If the player's total bet amount is less than 5,000 EUR/USD per week or 20,000 EUR/USD per month, the Casino reserves the right to reduce the withdrawal limits to 1,000 EUR/USD per week and 5,000 EUR/USD per month

We will have to amend the withdrawal limits in our review accordingly. Since Casino Guru sees such low withdrawals as unfair, this will lead to a change in the casino safety rating as well.

Thank you Matej, I appreciate your assessment and clarification.

I agree that the key issues here are the inconsistency in the applied withdrawal limits and the timing of any changes relative to my win.

I would appreciate Retro Bet Casino addressing the points raised, particularly:

* The discrepancy between the stated limits and the applied $1,500 NZD weekly limit

* The timing of any VIP status or withdrawal limit adjustments

* How these actions align with the terms referenced

I look forward to their clarification.

Hello,

Thank you for your detailed message and for outlining your concerns. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify the situation further.

First, regarding the application of clause 5 of the VIP Club Terms, this clause applies specifically because the player held VIP status. According to the VIP Club Terms:

A player is granted VIP status upon reaching a total deposit amount of 3,750 NZD.

As such, the player’s account was governed by the VIP Club Terms, including the provisions related to withdrawal limits and their adjustment based on activity.

Regarding the concern that VIP conditions may appear less favorable — we would like to clarify that under normal circumstances VIP players benefit from higher withdrawal limits compared to standard accounts. For reference, non-VIP players are subject to clause 11.9:

11.9 The weekly withdrawal limit is 3,000 EUR/USD or its equivalent in other currencies…

Whereas VIP players, when meeting the activity requirements, benefit from higher limits (e.g. 7,500 NZD weekly). The adjustment described in clause 5 is not a penalty, but a standard mechanism designed to align VIP conditions with the player’s current level of activity.

Regarding the currency aspect - withdrawal limits are defined per localization of the Terms and Conditions rather than being dynamically converted. For New Zealand players, the applicable limits are:

If the player's total bet amount is less than 7,500 NZD per week or 30,000 NZD per month, the Casino reserves the right to reduce the withdrawal limits to 1,500 NZD per week and 7,500 NZD per month.

For VIP-club members, the weekly withdrawal limit is 7,500 NZD… The monthly limit is 30,000 NZD…

Therefore, the applied limits were consistent with the NZD version of the Terms.

We would also like to clarify that this mechanism is not intended to encourage or pressure the player to continue playing or to reduce their balance through gameplay. Withdrawals remained available at all times within the defined limits, and the player had the option to withdraw funds whenever they chose.

At the same time, the purpose of this structure is to ensure that VIP benefits reflect ongoing activity rather than being permanently fixed based on past behavior.

At present, the player has no remaining balance on the account, as the available funds were either successfully withdrawn or subsequently used for gameplay.

Taking all of the above into account, we would appreciate your guidance on how you would prefer to proceed further with this case, as from our perspective all obligations towards the player have been fulfilled.

Thank you for your detailed response.

I understand the explanation regarding the VIP Club Terms and how withdrawal limits may be adjusted based on activity.

However, I believe the core issue still remains unresolved.

At the time I built my balance (approximately $86,000 NZD), I was actively playing and had qualified for VIP status through deposits exceeding $9,500 NZD.

Based on this, it is reasonable to expect that the benefits associated with that status would apply to those winnings.

The concern is not simply that limits were reduced, but the practical effect of those limits.

A withdrawal rate of $1,500 NZD per week would require over 12–13 months to access legitimately won funds. In reality, this creates significant pressure on a player to continue wagering in order to access their balance within a reasonable timeframe.

Importantly, I won the $86,000+ while holding VIP status. It was only after I attempted to withdraw that my status and applicable withdrawal limits were reduced, resulting in a significantly extended withdrawal timeframe.

This sequence of events is central to my concern.

While it may not be the stated intention, the structure itself creates that outcome.

I would appreciate clarification on the following key point:

• Why withdrawal limits applied after the win should override the conditions under which the winnings were generated

From a fairness perspective, this is the central issue.

I appreciate CasinoGuru’s involvement and look forward to further clarification.

Basically I have nothing to add, as Captainplanet37 summed it up all very nicely and Casino Guru as the same view of this situation. The winnings were gained at the time the VIP status has been active, therefore withdrawal limit should apply to them until withdrawn in full, unless gambled again.

I will ping the casino representatives again and hopefully we can reach a mutually agreeable solution.

Dear Matej,

We have sent you a detailed response with additional clarifications regarding this case by email. Please let us know if you would like us to provide any further information.

Hi Matej,

I’m very concerned that RetroBet took the position of a 54-week withdrawal timeframe etc, which is clearly unreasonable.

I also note that their response has been provided privately and I have not been given visibility of it. For fairness and transparency, I would appreciate either a copy posted publicly or a summary of their position so I can respond please.

At this stage, the issue remains unresolved and any user's of Retrobet should be warned.

Kind regards

Dear Captainplanet37, I am unable to share evidence or conversation with the casinos, due to legal requirements and to keep the trust we have managed to build over the years with casino representatives. However, I will keep you updated about anything important that is discussed, as cooperation from both sides is crucial to the whole mediation process. So no need to worry.

Currently, we are discussing the General Rule 5 of VIP Club T&C regarding the lowering of withdrawal limits for members who stops wagering. Casino Guru finds this unfair and hopefully we can find a common ground soon.

In the meantime, can you please confirm you still have the winnings on your account? From the message I have received, it sounds as if you have gambled away the balance and there was nothing left to withdraw. That would certainly complicate things, so I am hoping I just misunderstood the wording. Thank you.

Hi Matej,

Thank you for the update, I appreciate your efforts and I’m encouraged to hear that Casino Guru also finds this unfair.

To clarify, the winnings were originally requested for withdrawal multiple times, however due to the extended delay over a few weeks and continued unrestricted access to the funds, they were ultimately gambled.

I would like to stress that this would not have occurred if the withdrawal had been processed within a reasonable timeframe.

This is why I believe the delay and withdrawal limitations are central to this issue.

I hope RetroBet is willing to work towards a fair resolution given the circumstances.

Thank you again for your assistance.

Dear Captainplanet37, if the money were lost during gambling, I'm afraid there is nothing else for me to mediate on your behalf. I have no legal (or other) leverage to use for casino to restore your balance, since it was lost during standard gameplay. This prevents me from further pursuit of this complaint, as there is nothing I can do to bring this case to a successful end.

Due to the above, I will proceed and close this complaint as "rejected".

However, this thread has brought an important issue to our attention, which is the unfair withdrawal limit imposed on VIP players who stops wagering requested amount of money on standard basis. Although the complain is closed, I will continue my investigation and mediation with the casino representative, as this is something we need to resolve, because it could potentially harm not only casino's but also Casino Guru reputation, given the high safety index Retro Bet Casino currently holds.

Thank you for bringing this case up, and I am genuinely sorry that I will not able to assist you more effectively in this particular situation, as we always aim to help players resolve their issues whenever possible.

Please remember that you are welcome to contact us again if you run into any problems with this or any other casino in the future. Whether it is a question, a concern or a new issue that needs to be looked into, our team is here and ready to support you.