Kysymys rahapelisivustoista, joilla on Curaçaon lisenssi ja joissa käytetään väärää kauppiasluokkakoodia (sivu 112)

Has anyone got any experience with Payop?

omg so I recieved the chargeback evidence from WINTERMDSE, they’ve been saying I bought art from them. Yeah right, literally they’re saying I bought lots of different art pieces

How did they come to that conclusion? They seem to be precisely a third party that sells NFTs from Sweden and should therefore be audited.

https://wintermads.com/

Hur kom dom fram till den slutsatsen? Dom verkar ju vara just en tredjepart som säljer NFTs från Sverige och bör därför bli granskade.

https://wintermads.com/

I spoke to them and they said the same thing. They wrote to me in Swedish and I translated it and they told me to contact the authority too

Thus, Wintermads is a third party and should be audited by the Swedish Gaming Authority.

They review Quickbit, which is Swedish and sells crypto and cooperates with Casinos, so Wintermads should also go there properly🙂

Instead of crypto they sell digital art (NFTs) but it's more or less the same thing.

Alltså är Wintermads en tredjepart och bör bli granskade av Spelinspektionen.

Dom granskar Quickbit som är svenskt och säljer krypto och sammarbetar med Casinon, så Wintermads bör också åka åka dit ordentligt🙂

Istället för krypto säljer dom digital konst (NFTs) men det är mer elr mindre samma sak.

I had the same issue as you. They refuse to refund they just ignore all emails.

The construct of banned online casinos is so difficult to understand that it will take forever to fully understand it.

It starts with the founding and ends with the payment processing; the funds go through so many different hands that in the end you don't even know who really owns the money.

That’s why casino operators don’t give a shit about laws

Das Konstrukt der verbotenen Online-Casinos ist so schwer zu durchschauen, dass es ewig dauern wird diese komplett zu durchschauen.

Es geht bei der Gründung los, und endet bei der Zahlungsabwicklung, die Gelder gehen durch so viel verschiedene Hände, dass man am Ende gar nicht weiß wer wirklich im besitz des geldes ist.

Deswegen scheißen die Casino-Betreiber auf Gesetze

Wow this peice of work is actually the owner of my date and grotbooks look at company house it looks like he is also behind helpersm*AP as my bank has gave me details of where every transaction has come from grotbooks and mydate him I am just trying to find helpersm registered in Edinburgh I have ewave and platinum also

Jodd, who do you bank with? What person owns grotobook and my dates also? Do you have contaxt details for ewave and platinum my friend?

DUBROVS, Mihails it's on company house under mydates it's also registered as grotbook he is also registered as cleverprix but with different first name D. O. B same registered on company house also. if you type into either Google or duckduck go. I bank with Santander I am having issues finding ewave and platinum ewave are coming out of Stratsbourg and the platinum London. My bank is asking for all sorts of information documentation, interaction with these companies ect ect it's like hitting head against a brick wall I have sent emails to them no response it looks like I am fighting a losing battle

Yes I hear you. I am the same. Someone found ewave but they never responded as to the contact details. Platinum i may have the email. Do you have a email address? If you want to post it quick maybe we can keep in touch and try work things out together

Let me know if you find the company behind helpersm AP! I have grotobooks and Destream. Grotto has replied but to no avail, I’ve asked for receipts, order confirmations, anything and they refuse. In their policy, it says you can get a refund if you request it within 7 days so I requested a refund and they stopped replying….shocker. I’ve filed chargebacks with my bank which were denied because I don’t have any receipts/invoices/order confirmations, but how is it my responsibility if they refuse to answer my emails or provide these documents? It should have stronger grounds for a chargeback rather than being denied. I’ve since escalated the issue and hoping they can resolve it but it isn’t looking good without any invoices.

Request a SARS from them any data they hold on you as transactions where made through them they need to keep a record for I think up to 2 years for data protection . Also refusal to provide this information is a breach of the Data protection laws as the buissness is registered in the UK you want full access to transactions and purchases

sorry don't be offended but I am not comfortable giving my personal email address out on a forum.

Have you had luck requesting SAR from these companies? Feel like they would ignore it like every other email I’ve sent

I had trouble with mydates and grotobook also. Failure to provide receipts etc. But if you keep trying and speaking to them and keep insisting you have received no goods from them then the bank will use that as evidence. Failure to comply. By law you have to have receipts for everything

Yes they’ve stopped replying sadly. However I can’t get the bank to investigate without the receipts so I’m out of luck. It’s been escalated higher after a phone call so hopefully they’ll understand. Doesn’t make sense to me that they cannot progress a chargeback without a receipt because the merchant refuses to provide receipts…wild

I'm going to phone my bank. I did send them a big email a while back and they were interested but they kept calling me while in work. I will do it again over the next few days and see what I can do. Even if it leads to closure of my bank and I get my money then I'm happy. Problem is being a gambler I've had 1 payout and I ended up losing alot. Its a horrible addiction

I feel you brother. I was about 1000 days clean before relapsing this last couple weeks. My fault but when casinos can bypass the safety features in place by using shell companies, is it really fair?

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