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Welcome, fellow gamblers, to this forum article dedicated to responsible gambling. In the exciting world of casinos, online platforms, and betting, it's crucial to maintain a healthy relationship with gambling activities. By practicing responsible gambling, we can ensure that the enjoyment we derive from these experiences remains sustainable and free from harmful consequences. Let's come together and share our advice, strategies, and tips for responsible gambling.

Set a Budget: One of the fundamental principles of responsible gambling is to establish a budget. Determine how much money you can comfortably afford to spend on gambling activities without negatively impacting your financial stability. It's essential to set aside only disposable income—money that won't affect your essential expenses, savings, or any other obligations.

Avoid Chasing Losses: Experiencing losses is an inevitable part of gambling. However, responsible gamblers know when to stop. Avoid the temptation of chasing losses in an attempt to recover them. This behavior often leads to further financial and emotional strain. Accept that losses are a part of the game, and it's better to walk away and try again another day.

Understand the Odds: Educate yourself about the games you choose to play. Understand the odds and probabilities associated with each game. This knowledge will help you make informed decisions and manage your expectations. Remember, gambling is predominantly based on luck, and outcomes are unpredictable. Avoid falling for false beliefs or superstitions that may lead to poor decision-making.

Avoid Borrowing for Gambling: It's crucial to never borrow money to fund your gambling activities. Using credit cards, loans, or any form of borrowed funds can lead to financial difficulties and a spiral of debt. Stick to your predetermined budget and use only your disposable income.

Set Win and Loss Limits: Establish both win and loss limits before you start gambling. Determine a specific amount at which you'll walk away from a winning streak to secure your profits. Similarly, set a limit for losses to prevent chasing losses and potentially digging yourself into a deeper financial hole.

Remember, responsible gambling is about making informed choices, setting boundaries, and maintaining control over your gambling activities. By following these additional tips, you can further enhance your gambling experience and prioritize your overall well-being.

Why does someone who warns about the downside of gambling feel the need to hide a link to casino? I would like to point out for the future that links of this type are not accepted on the forum.

However, I think this is a topic that is very important for all gamblers because gambling can become addictive. In context of responsible gaming, I add a link, that we have on our website and might be useful: https://casino.guru/problem-gambling

Our website also do have responsible gambling section.

Does this forum forbid website advertising too?

Yes, it is - mind my response here, please:

https://casino.guru/forum/general-gambling-discussion/new-online-casino-to-launch#post-62921

Guys,

The responsible gambling section of the forum is to try and help people who maybe struggling with their gambling behaviour.

If you want to discuss the benefits of the websites that you are trying to promote then why don’t you post the info in the general forum and leave this part of the forum for real responsible gambling discussion?

Any respectable online casino should teach their representatives to encourage responsible gambling and not try to poach vulnerable players.

Please think about your intentions and ask yourself if this behaviour is acceptable.

Well said!

Thank you very much for your support in this matter. I wouldn't say that better myself.

How do you manage your bankroll? I’m having trouble with it.

Hey, I'd probably set a budget first which I'm willing to spend. As long as it doesn't exceed the amount where I could get into trouble and always have everything I need covered. I would simply set a limit where it's still fun for me to maybe lose some money and not feel too sorry for myself. If I felt sad about losing more than that, that wouldn't be a good sign.

I would definitely play in a casino where they have responsible gambling tools and therefore I could set either a break if I didn't have a good turnover or as I mentioned a deposit limit that couldn't be exceeded. 

I'm not sure if it's in every bank but in some you can also set a limit but it could be limiting to your everyday life. 

Anyway, I wouldn't try to win back the losses, which is also common with players and you deposit more and more. 

Simply gambling should be an occasional pastime, just like you pay when you go to the cinema and so on. Sometimes you can win and sometimes you can't, but I would certainly not gamble often and with large sums of money. 

After all, the casino always has an advantage over the player, who will sooner or later lose the deposits here, you have to realize that. 

If none of this helps, then I would probably seek professional help because if a player has the urge to spend more and more, it can be a sign of addiction.

I hope you are not in anything like this and are looking for some good advice. 

Have a nice day. 🙂

Said very well Jaro, casino has a limited you can set not your bank. But I never do that because it would piss me off if I was into a game that has them three different colors and I was just about to get the bones and I ran out of money and you hit your limit wouldn't that piss you off?? so now your at your limit yes I know it will be there when you come back but I know me I forgot everything I mite never come back to that game, but in my case that wouldn't happen because I don't play them kind of games because they suck your money right up to turn around and only win the lowest amount of money, I hope that made since to you because I know what your saying.

I get what you are saying and that is why I said that the limit can sometimes be limiting. It's probably up to the players preference, because if a player can keep it within the limit, then it's not a problem, but as I said, when he starts chasing losses, it can go badly.

So I think we understand each other.

Your so right Jaro,what's in the pass leave it in the pass go on to a new day but be wise at what you doing don't be stupid by thinking awww I will play my rent money and win it back cuz it don't happen that way, if I don't have it I don't play it, DON'T BOWWOW ANY MONEY TO PLAY AT THE CASINO. Keep the good work up Jaro your the best at your job.❤️❤️

Jaro has left for a holiday, so it's just me again 🙂.

I expect him not to lose any money in the casino! Too smart to do that, I'm sure.

I'll send him a note to say hi to you when he's back next week. 😉

I'd like to get some opinions from the people here on the forum. If I may share my story.

I was a casino gambler for over a year, and I met one who seemed quite promising. That's where my misfortune began.

I met this casino and it was here that I realized I had a serious gambling problem.

I went into chat several times to ask for my account to be closed. I didn't mention the gambling problem clearly, because those who have a gambling problem are ashamed to say so.

I asked several times after losing a lot of money to close the account, and in the chat they were always attentive, letting me know about some responsible gambling tools, such as deposit limits, bet limits, pause, but they never told me about the possibility of self-exclusion.

The chat girl must have analyzed my player account and suggested that I "block casino games indefinitely" while maintaining the sports betting area.

That argument was enough to keep me active in the casino.

Question 1 - What is meant by an indefinite period of time? In my dictionary, it means without an end date

I later realized that this method was the same as nothing, because all I had to do was log into the chat and request that the casino area be unblocked, and I'd have the casino again. I even blocked and unblocked the casino area dozens of times a day.

2nd Question - Aren't the chat staff and other casino staff obliged to be trained to spot players who show patterns of gambling addiction? In my opinion, if they are trained to do this, they can easily see that a player who asks to block the casino several times a day is either paranoid, or has a gambling problem, and should act to protect him.

After several losses and several requests to close my account, they suggested a VIP manager.

He offers me 500 euros and guarantees me all the support in the world. He offered me cashback for losses, etc... Well, for someone who's addicted, that's giving sight to a blind man.

This super-professional account manager and I struck up a friendship and it became increasingly difficult for me to admit that I was completely addicted. When I hadn't deposited for a while, he'd show up with a few free spins or a few euros... and it would start all over again.

I only got up the courage to opt out when they changed my account manager, and even with that one I had to opt out over a long weekend because I didn't want him to convince me to stay again, because he would.

3rd question - is this whole process normal? Is all this legal? Is all this permitted practice?

UNFORTUNATELY, THESE REPORTS DON'T MATTER, BECAUSE WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS THE PHRASE " I WANT TO EXCLUDE MYSELF BECAUSE I'M ADDICTED".

UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE CASINO EMPLOYEES WHO CLAIM TO BE TRAINED TO BE VIGILANT AND TO PROTECT THE PLAYER ARE NOTHING MORE THAN WORDS, BECAUSE IN THE END IT'S ALL ABOUT THE GOALS OF THE BIG CASINOS.

If you can help me with an answer to these 3 questions, I'd appreciate it.

Gostaria de obter algumas opinioes, da gente aqui do forum. Se me for permitida a partilha da minha historia.

Fui durante mais de um ano, jogador de casino, conheci um que me parecia bastante promissor. Foi ai que começou a minha desgraça.

Conheci este casino e foi aqui que percebi que tinha um problema grave com o jogo.

Entrei diversas vezes em chat a solicitar o encerramento da conta, nao mensionei claramente o problema de jogo, pois quem tem esse problema tem vergonha de o dizer.

Solicitei diversas vezes apos perder bastante dinheiro para encerrar a conta, e no chat sempre foram atenciosos dando me a conhecer algumas ferramentas de jogo responsavel, como limites de depositos, limites de aposta, pausa, mas nunca me falaram da possibilidade de auto-exclusao.

A menina do chat deve ter feito uma analise á minha conta de jogador e sugeriu-me, "bloquear os jogos de casino por tempo indeterminado" mantendo a area de apostas desportivas.

esse argumento, foi o suficiente para me manter ativo no casino.

1ª Pergunta - O que se entende por tempo indeterminado? No meu dicionario é compreendido sem data para terminar

Mais tarde apercebi-me de que este metodo era o mesmo que nada, pois bastava entrar no chat e solicitar o desbloqueio da area de casino, para voltar a ter casino. Cheguei a bloquear e desbloquear a area de casino dezenas de vezes ao dia.

2ª Pergunta - Os funcionarios de chat e outros funcionarios do casino, não sao obrigados a ser treinados para padroes de jogadores que apresentam padroes de vicio de jogo? na minha opiniao se são treinados para isso, facilmente percebem que um.jogador que pede para bloquear casino varias vezes ao dia ou é paranoico, ou tem.de facto algum problema com o.jogo, e deveria atuar para o proteger.

Apos varias perdas e varios pedidos de encerramento de conta, sugeriram me um gerente VIP.

Ele chega oferece-me 500€ e ainda me garante todo o acompanhamento do mundo. Ofereceu me cashback pelas perdas etc... ora para quem é viciado, isto é dar vista a um cego.

Esse gestor de conta super profissional, fomos criando uma amizade e cada vez se tornou mais dificil eu admitir que estava completamente viciado. Quando nao depositava durante algum tempo ele lá aparecia com uns giros gratis ou uns euros... e la começava tudo novamente.

Só tomei coragem de me auto-excluir quando trocaram o meu gestor de conta, e mesmo com esse tive de fazer a auto-exclusao num fim de semana prelongado pois nao queria que ele me convencesse novamente a ficar, porque iria conseguir.

3ª pergunta - todo este processo é normal? Tudo isto é legal? Tudo isto é pratica permitida?

INFELIZMENTE, ESTES RELATOS POUCO IMPORTAM, PORQUE NA REALIDADE O QUE INTERESSA É A FRASE " QUERO-ME AUTO-EXCLUIR POIS SOU VICIADO"

INFELIZMENTE ESSES FUNCIONARIOS DE CASINOS QUE SE DIZEM TREINADOS, PARA ESTAR ATENTOS E PROTEGER O JOGADOR, NAO PASSA DE PALAVRAS PORQUE NO FIM DE CONTAS O IMPORTANTE SAO OS OBJETIVOS DOS GRANDES CASINOS.

Se me puderem ajudar com uma resposta as 3 questoes agradecia

Aww I don't mind talking to you, lol hope he don't get in a situation that he has to spend more money lol

Hi there.

Before I get involved, are you interested in my response too? Or would you rather give other players a chance to voice their opinions?

I'll check on you tomorrow.

Yes, Radka, I'd love to hear about all your experiences.

Something honest, because I'm losing sleep over all this

Sim Radka, adoraria ter resposta de toda a sua experiencia.

Algo sincero, porque estou a perder o sono com tudo isto

About 15 years ago, casinos were used

the concept of "Responsible Gambling"

mainly to themselves, in every way guaranteeing honesty and reliability. But in recent years they have only burdened the players' psyche with a sense of guilt and made their lives more difficult with new

ridiculous rules.

Something similar is practiced as well

in other areas: doctors love

mention the "science of deontology"

to make themselves look like angels.

And the police suddenly remember about

"victimology" to convince

the victim that it was her own fault

and provoked (!?) the criminals.

In general, this is very unhealthy.

phenomenon - to be proud of one's supposedly

severe gambling addiction. (ICD-11: 6C50.1; QE21)

Or hastily recognize it. This is fraught with loss of legal capacity through the court, that is, big troubles.

Rob exactly these people

the casino is tempted.

Even a license doesn't guarantee it

honesty. On February 8, 2018, the Russian representative to the UN V. Nebenzya reported that:

"terrorist accomplices make a living by stealing money from ordinary citizens through fake online stores and online casinos"

- You must agree that such a high-ranking official

receives information not only

from TV and newspapers.

Only a losing player turns into a "pathetic and despicable gambling addict". But for now he

wins, he is a smart, handsome and lucky guy. He

envy and imitate.

In general, gambling addiction can be treated.

winnings. You just need to

change your worldview.

For example, I don’t play on the Internet, everything is too

unstable and unreliable.

Almost everything. I think, Nassim Taleb

would support me in this.

Some people write here on the forum

about the huge sums lost. For that kind of money they

could fly from Europe

to Macau, Las Vegas, Australia...

Or vice versa.

On the other hand, I managed

make travels for the game at low cost.

Лет 15 назад казино применяли

понятие "Responsible Gambling"

преимущественно к себе, всячески гарантируя честность и надёжность. Но последние годы они лишь отягощают психику игроков чувством вины и усложняют им жизнь новыми

нелепыми правилами.

Нечто подобное практикуется и

в других областях: медики любят

упоминать о "науке деонтологии"

чтобы выставить себя ангелами.

А полиция вспоминает вдруг о

"виктимологии" чтобы убедить

жертву, что она сама виновата

и спровоцировала (!?) преступников. 

Вообще, это очень нездоровое

явление - гордиться своей якобы

серьёзной игровой зависимостью. (МКБ-11: 6C50.1; QE21)

Или поспешно признавать её. Это чревато потерей дееспособности через суд, то есть, большими неприятностями.

Ограбить именно таких людей

появляется соблазн у казино.

Даже лицензия не гарантирует

честность. Ещё 8 февраля 2018 года представитель России при ООН В. Небензя докладывал, что:

"пособники террористов промышляют похищением средств рядовых граждан через подставные интернет-магазины и онлайн-казино"

- Согласитесь, что такой высокопоставленный чиновник

получает информацию не только

из TV и газет.

В "жалкого и презренного лудомана" превращается лишь проигравший игрок. А пока он

выигрывает, он - умница, красавчик и везунчик. Ему

завидуют и подражают.

Вообще, игромания лечится

выигрышами. Нужно только

поменять мировоззрение. 

Я, например, не играю в интернете, там всё слишком

нестабильно и ненадёжно.

Почти всё. Думаю, Nassim Taleb 

меня бы в этом поддержал.

Некоторые пишут тут на форуме

об огромных проигранных суммах. За такие деньги они

могли бы слетать из Европы

в Макао, Лас Вегас, Австралию...

Или наоборот.

С другой стороны, мне удавалось

совершать путешествия для игры с небольшими затратами. 

Thank you very much for sharing. What I think is that someone needs to have the courage to take up these issues and put a stop to this blatant theft.

Muito obrigado pela sua partilha. O que acho é que alguem precisa de ter coragem de pegar nestes temas e por um travao neste roubo descarado.

All casino games providers can't be trusted RTP and RNG no way!!

From the moment you deposit and choose a provider they know your IP address your gambling ways, and every spin is calculated to make sure the casino and they win.

The providers use sophisticated software that makes sure this happens, that's why you win at first and then you lose the bonus features are less frequent and winnings calculated so you win enough to keep playing but not enough to cash out. It's all a big con!! I got addicted for reasons I'm not going into, and stupidly played regularly for 7yrs 😭🤬🤪