French Roulette (NetEnt) - yleistä keskustelua

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If there is no La Partage rule, then it's not Franch Roulette, it's more of a scam.

Wenn es keine La Partage-Regel gibt, dann ist das kein Franch Roulette, eher eine Mogelpackung.

Yeah, La Partage rule reduces the house edge so it's a good rule for players, but I don't think it's something that defines the French rulet even though some of them have it applied.

I didn't even design the poem, but you're telling me to sign up first? What the heck?

시적도안했는데 가입부터하란,ㄴ건므ㅓ냐

I don't know what you mean by what you write. It would probably be best to put me in the picture a little.

You wanted to play this game but you can't without sign up?🙂

Yes, that's right

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But do you want to play it at some online casino or just the demo game here on our site?

At the moment, all casinos have abolished this rule, so all providers have become irrelevant to me.

Im Augenblick haben alle Casinos diese Regel abgeschafft, daher sind alle Anbieter für mich irrelevant geworden.

How did you find out about this, though?

I've done a lot of research and haven't found anything. Besides, it's irrelevant if you play from Germany with a provider that isn't listed on the GGL whitelist. You'll quickly receive a complaint about illegal betting.

Ich habe durchrecherchiert und bin nicht fündig geworden. Außerdem ist es irrelevant, von Deutschland aus bei einem Anbieter zu spielen, der nicht in der GGL-Whitelist eingetragen ist. Sehr schnell flattert eine Anzeige wegen illegaler Wette ins Haus.

Complaint from where, though?

I don't follow.

By German lawmakers: Anyone who participates in gambling abroad and whose gaming provider is not listed on the whitelist is acting illegally.

Vom deutschen Gesetzgeber. Wer im Ausland am Glücksspiel teilnimmt und der Spieleanbieter nicht in der Whitelist eingetragen ist, handelt illegal.

Surely, but that's, as you correctly say, a legal matter. The fairness of law is not always very clear since there are more international laws in motion. We approach such situations differently. We focus on whether the casino was fair to its players or not. No lawyers involved.

Another thing is that we always provide information about licenses, and you as a German player should not be interested in filtering out foreign companies. In my opinion, there is no problem. A player from Germany cannot see casinos outside the GGL grasp unless he bypasses restrictions.

I don't know why you take this approach, but we can discuss it calmly. 😉

I just wanted to point out how German lawmakers treat players, to name just a few: "Banks aren't allowed to transfer money to foreign casinos. If you want to cash out a win, the winnings are confiscated, your stake and winnings disappear, and you'll be reported to the police." Everything has become risky and burdensome for German players.

Ich wollten nur darauf hinweisen, wie der deutsche Gesetzgeber mit den Spielern umgeht, um nur Einiges zu nennen: "Banken dürfen kein Geld an ausländische Casinos überweisen - will man einen Gewinn auszahlen lassen, wird der Gewinn beschlagnahmt, Einsatz und Gewinn ist dann verschwunden und eine Anzeige steht dann auch im Haus". Ist doch alles riskant und beschwerlich geworden für den deutschen Spieler.

I see, thank you. I was curious if you happen to know anyone who has been fined or jailed for playing outside the German license. I recall that this law has been in effect for quite some time, and I have only heard a few stories about it so far. Only one player claimed directly he has been "punished." However, you know public forum, nothing official, so I thought you might know more.

I would not be very happy as a German citizen; those restrictions, in my opinion, crossed the line and put players in a more inconvenient situation than the operators. Just my observation.

I heard from other forums that there were a few reports, but I don't know if any convictions were made. There was one case where a player won €120,000, but the winnings were confiscated due to suspicion of money laundering.

Von anderen Foren bekam ich mit, dass es einige Anzeigen gab, weiß aber nicht, ob es zu einer Verurteilung kam. Ein Fall gab es, da gewann ein Spieler 120.000 Euro, der Gewinn wurde wegen Gelwäscheverdacht beschlagnahmt.

That's terrible, I feel like I would feel like a victim. When I imagine that it could be a win that helps a lot in life and is confiscated just because the player plays in a casino other than a German licensed casino, it's ridiculous to me.

Unfortunately, in this case, it is necessary to follow the regulations because, as I see it, circumvention can be punished more harshly than I would have thought, based on what you say. 😕

In my view, German legislators are showing commendable

care for German players. They were perhaps surpassed by Japanese legislators.

The point of playing in a casino is to have maximum security, order and

law-abidingness. Losing money due to ignorance is tragic,

But becoming a victim of fraudsters is perhaps even more offensive.

- Especially in a casino. :) Tens and hundreds of thousands that players don't even

they lose, and they lose against the rules - let them play

in real casinos all over the world.

In Europe, by the way, the La Partage rule is often practiced. Although, it is unlikely

somewhere the "French rules" are fully implemented, well disclosed

in the Wiki article in German.

In addition, the learned author of Casino Guru - Jan Kovac reminds us in his article:

"High variance beats RTP very easily. Every smart player should learn to work with this and use it to their advantage."

This also applies to the "unprofitable" American wheel. Some European advancers are especially attracted to it, and they cross the ocean.

By the way, it's time to shed light on the issues of (incomplete) ergodicity of roulette processes, looking from the players' perspective.

С моей точки зрения, законодатели Германии проявляют похвальную

заботу о немецких игроках. Их превзошли, возможно, японские законодатели.

Смысл игры в казино состоит в максимальной безопасности, порядке и

законопослушности. Потеря денег из-за неосведомлённости трагична,

но стать жертвой мошенников ещё обиднее, пожалуй. Ordnung muß sein. 

- Особенно, в казино. :) Десятки и сотни тысяч, которые игроки даже не

проигрывают, а теряют вопреки правилам - позволили бы им играть

в настоящих казино всего мира.

В Европе, кстати, правило La Partage нередко практикуется. Хотя, вряд ли

где-то полностью выполняются "французские правила", хорошо раскрытые

в Wiki статье на немецком языке.

Кроме того, учёный автор Casino Guru - Jan Kovac напоминает нам в своей статье:

"высокая дисперсия очень легко бьет RTP. Каждый умный игрок должен научиться работать с этим и использовать ее в свою пользу."

Это относится и к "невыгодному" американскому колесу. Некоторых европейских адвансеров оно особенно привлекает, и они пересекают океан.

Кстати, пора осветить вопросы (неполной) эргодичности (ergodicity) процессов рулетки, взглянув с позиции игроков.