Zdravo guru kazina,
Prijavljujem jedan, nedavni incident sa Dice Autobet-om na Stake.com. Prvo sam pokušao da ovo rešim putem ćaskanja uživo (najmanje 8 odvojenih kontakata, uvek ljubazno), zatim sam danas objavio na njihovom forumu zajednice i ranije danas poslao imejl podršci za dokumentovani pregled. Molim za neutralno posredovanje .
Sesija: mobilna, bez VPN-a , tačno 11 opklada za ~1 sekundu .
Korišćena podešavanja automatskog klađenja:
Na svaki niz od 1 poraza → povećajte opkladu za 395%
U svakoj seriji od 1 poraza → šansa za pobedu u setu je 75%
U prvom nizu od 2 poraza → povećajte opkladu 20 000% (200×)
U prvom nizu od 2 poraza → šanse za pobedu u setu 98%
Pri profitu > 0,00 € → resetuj iznos opklade
Na profit > 0,00 € → resetuj šansu za dobitak
Dokumentovana neslaganja:
Opklada br. 2: „povećanje za 395% " izvršena kao +503% (0,37 → 1,86).
Opklada #6: ista greška — +503% umesto +395%.
Opklada br. 10: nakon gubitka, uslovi br. 1–2 nisu primenjeni (opklada je ostala 0,40 € , šansa za dobitak se nije ažurirala).
Opklada br. 11: ulog je skočio na ≈490€ — nije izvodljivo iz mojih konfigurisanih pravila (čak i ako se multiplikatori naslagaju).
Odgovori podrške su bili različiti: prvo „uslovi su funkcionisali kako je predviđeno" , kasnije „podešavanja automatskog klađenja se obrađuju na vašem uređaju (na strani klijenta)" . Čak i ako neka logika radi na strani klijenta, server je i dalje prihvatio progresiju uloga koja ne može proizaći iz prikazanih podešavanja. Idealno bi bilo da bezbedan dizajn odbije opklade van pravila umesto da ih izvrši.
Napomena o fiat vrednostima: opklade su bile u LTC-u. Od sesije, LTC je pao za ~20% , tako da trenutne brojke u EUR-ima na korisničkom interfejsu izgledaju niže; oslanjajte se na iznose uloga / JSON i vremenske oznake.
Zahtev:
(a) tehnička revizija sa evaluacijom kazina na strani servera pre klađenja za opklade br. 2, br. 6, br. 10, br. 11 (koji uslovi i multiplikatori su prihvaćeni) i objašnjenje za 503% naspram 395% i konačni ulog od ≈490€ ; ili
(b) povraćaj novca / kredit za gudvil za poslednju opkladu, bez priznanja odgovornosti.
Direktne veze do svake opklade (1–11):
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022741792&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022742486&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022743091&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022743701&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022744382&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022745100&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022745699&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022746314&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022746885&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022747500&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022748196&modal=bet
U prilogu: JSON izvoz - 11 opklada se lako izoluje pomoću mobilne IP adrese: 37.33.160.188/32 ili pretragom „mobile":true. Takođe mogu da obezbedim transkripte ćaskanja uživo na zahtev. Bio bih vam zahvalan ako bi Stake mogao da podeli procenu pre opklade na strani servera za opklade #2/#6/#10/#11 i tačnu formulu/zaokruživanje koje je dovelo do opklade od ≈490€ . Hvala vam na posredovanju.
Hi Casino Guru,
I’m reporting a single, recent incident with Stake.com’s Dice Autobet. I first tried to resolve this via live chat (at least 8 separate contacts, always polite), then posted on their community forum today, and emailed support earlier today for a documented review. I’m requesting neutral mediation.
Session: mobile, no VPN, exactly 11 bets in ~1 second.
Autobet settings used:
On every streak of 1 loss → increase bet 395%
On every streak of 1 loss → set win chance 75%
On first streak of 2 losses → increase bet 20 000% (200×)
On first streak of 2 losses → set win chance 98%
On profit > €0.00 → reset bet amount
On profit > €0.00 → reset win chance
Documented discrepancies:
Bet #2: "increase by 395%" executed as +503% (0.37 → 1.86).
Bet #6: same error — +503% instead of +395%.
Bet #10: after a loss, Conditions #1–2 not applied (bet stayed €0.40, win-chance didn’t update).
Bet #11: stake jumped to ≈€490 — not derivable from my configured rules (even if multipliers stacked).
Support replies have varied: first "conditions worked as intended", later "autobet settings are handled on your device (client-side)". Even if some logic runs client-side, the server still accepted a stake progression that cannot result from the displayed settings. Ideally, a safe design would reject out-of-policy wagers rather than execute them.
Note on fiat values: bets were in LTC. Since the session, LTC fell ~20%, so the current EUR figures in the UI look lower; please rely on stake amounts / JSON and timestamps.
Request:
(a) a technical audit with the casino’s server-side pre-bet evaluation for bets #2, #6, #10, #11 (which conditions & multipliers were accepted) and an explanation for 503% vs 395% and the ≈€490 final stake; or
(b) a refund / goodwill credit for the last bet, without admission of liability.
Direct links to each bet (1–11):
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022741792&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022742486&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022743091&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022743701&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022744382&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022745100&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022745699&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022746314&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022746885&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022747500&modal=bet
- https://stake.com/my-bets/casino?iid=house%3A410022748196&modal=bet
Attached: the JSON export - the 11 bets are easy to isolate by the mobile IP: 37.33.160.188/32 or by searching "mobile":true. I can also provide live-chat transcripts upon request. I’d appreciate it if Stake could share the server-side pre-bet evaluation for bets #2/#6/#10/#11 and the exact formula/rounding that led to the ≈€490 bet. Thank you for mediating.
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