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MrPacho Casino - Dobici igrača su nestali sa računa.
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The player from Germany had reported an issue where her winnings of 180 Euros from an online casino had disappeared from her account. Despite attempts to address the issue with the casino's support team, she had received no response. She also claimed that her account had been suddenly closed. We contacted the casino, which provided evidence that the player's bets were calculated correctly and winnings were credited to the player's account. .We marked the complaint as 'rejected'.
Igračica iz Nemačke je prijavila problem gde je njen dobitak od 180 evra iz onlajn kazina nestao sa njenog naloga. Uprkos pokušajima da reši problem sa timom za podršku kazina, nije dobila nikakav odgovor. Takođe je tvrdila da joj je račun iznenada zatvoren. Kontaktirali smo kazino, koji je pružio dokaz da su opklade igrača ispravno izračunate i da su dobici pripisani na račun igrača. .Žalbu smo označili kao 'odbijenu'.
Deponovao sam više od 300 evra i tokom igre sam konačno uspeo da osvojim 180 evra od besplatnih okretaja. Ovaj iznos je nestao odmah nakon toga. Pokušao sam sam da rešim problem sa Podrškom, ali do sada niko nije odgovorio. Rekli su da će to pregledati, ali nikada ranije nisam doživeo nešto slično. Iz onoga što sam pročitao na jednoj veb stranici, čini se da ovo nije izolovan incident! Osećam se prevarenim i želim svoj novac nazad.
I have deposited more than 300 Euros, and during the game, I was finally able to win 180 Euros from my free spins. This amount just disappeared immediately afterwards. I have tried to resolve the issue with Support on my own, but so far no one has responded. They said they would review it, but I've never experienced anything like this before. From what I have read on one website, it seems this is not an isolated incident! I feel cheated and I want my money back.
Habe mehr als 300 Euro einbezahlt dann habe ich endlich während des Spiels Freispiele bekommen und 180 Euro gewonnen diese sind unmittelbar danach einfach verschwunden . Habe versucht es eigenhändig den Support zu regeln.Bis jetzt hat sich noch niemand gemeldet . Man wollte dies überprüfen habe sowas noch nie erlebt .wie ich auf einer Seite gelesen habe ist das wohl kein Einzelfall ! Ich fühle mich betrogen und ich will mein Geld
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaš problem. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja, kako bih u potpunosti razumeo celu situaciju.
Možete li, molim vas, da nam kažete da li ste akumulirali svoje dobitke isključivo od besplatnih okretaja?
Da li ste bili obavešteni zašto su vaši dobici poništeni?
Da li ste ranije iskoristili neke besplatne bonuse iz ovog kazina?
Ako postoji bilo kakva relevantna komunikacija, prosledite je zajedno sa snimkom ekrana vaše istorije bonusa na [email protected] .
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Hvala unapred na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petronela
Dear txxsp2crcw,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely.
Could you please advise if you accumulated your winnings from Free Spins solely?
Have you been advised why were your winnings voided?
Have you redeemed any free bonuses from this casino in the past?
If there’s any relevant communication, please forward it along with a screenshot of your bonus history to [email protected].
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Produžavamo tajmer za 7 dana. Molim vas da znate da ukoliko ne odgovorite u zadato vreme ili ne pružite asistenciju, mi ćemo da odbijemo prigovor.
Dear txxsp2crcw,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Ne, moj dobitak se nije sastojao samo od besplatnih okretaja. Dobio sam jedan sa normalnim depozitom bez bonusa u normalnoj igri. Imao sam sreće i osvojio nekoliko besplatnih okretaja. Iznos od 180 evra je prikazan i odmah je nestao. Odmah sam uložio žalbu i do danas nije bilo odgovora nakon što je žalba htela da bude ispitana…. . To nije bio besplatan bonus, deponovao sam, imao sreće u igri i dobio besplatne okrete i pobedio. I u trenu je sve nestalo. Pročitao sam na drugim sajtovima da verovatno nisam izolovan slučaj. Ovo je izuzetno kriminalno
No, my winnings didn't just consist of free spins. I got one with a normal deposit without a bonus in the normal game. I was lucky and won some free spins. The amount of 180 euros was displayed and immediately disappeared. I immediately filed a complaint and to date there has been no response after the complaint wanted to be examined…. . It wasn't a free bonus, I deposited, got lucky in the game and got free spins and won. And in an instant it was all gone. I've read on other sites that I'm probably not an isolated case. This is extremely criminal
Nein mein Gewinn bestand nicht nur aus freispielen . eie habe ich noch normaler Einzahlung ohne Bonus im normalen Spiel bekommen . Ich hatte Glück und habe einige Freispiele gewonnen. Betrag von 180 Euro angezeigt und gleich verschwunden . Ich habe gleich Beschwerde eingereicht bis heute keine Antwort nach Beschwerde wollte geprüft werden …. . Es war kein kostenloser Boni ich habe einbezahlt dann Glück im Spiel gehabt Freispiele bekommen und gewonnen .und in einem nu war alles weg . Habe auf anderen Seiten gelesen das ich wohl kein Einzelfall bin . Das ist Höchst kriminell
Hvala vam puno, tkksp2crcv, na pojašnjenju. Molimo vas da podelite svoju istoriju igara sa [email protected] kako bismo mogli da izvršimo detaljniju analizu vaših evidencija igara.
Thank you very much, txxsp2crcw, for the clarification. Kindly share your game history with [email protected] so that we can conduct a more detailed analysis of your game logs.
Nažalost, više ne mogu da ih pošaljem ili kopiram jer je moj nalog iznenada zatvoren zbog nekog kršenja. Nakon što sam se požalio da se tamo vrši prevara. Veoma čudno i apsolutno neprihvatljivo za kazino. Nažalost, pročitao sam nekoliko puta da dobici nestaju u ovom kazinu. Vlasti to treba da drže na oku
Unfortunately I can no longer send or copy them because my account has suddenly been closed due to some kind of violation. After I complained that fraud was being committed there. Very strange and absolutely unacceptable for a casino. Unfortunately, I have read several times that winnings disappear in this casino. The authorities should keep an eye on it
Kann ich ihnen leider nicht mehrschicken bzw kopieren da mein Konto jetzt plötzlich wegen irgend einem Verstoß geschlossen wurde . Nach dem ich mich beschwert habe das dort Betrug begangen wird . Sehr seltsam und absolut nicht tragbar für ein Casino . Das Gewinne verschwinden in diesem Casino habe ich jetzt leider schon mehrfach gelesen. Da sollten die Behörden mal ein Auge drauf werfen
Hvala vam puno, tkksp2crcv, što ste dali sve potrebne informacije. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu kolegi Stefanu ( [email protected] ) koji će vam biti u pomoći. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, txxsp2crcw, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Stefan ([email protected]) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Želimo da vas obavestimo da nas je igrač 7. oktobra kontaktirao u vezi sa neuspešnom opkladom u kazinu i dao sledeće informacije u vezi sa opkladom:
- tačno vreme kada je opklada stavljena; 19:15
- stanje pre i nakon što ste položili ovu opkladu; 40/50 evra
- naziv igre u koju ste položili opkladu; avantura Fire Blaze Jackpot
- iznos opklade. 50 Cent
Id - 105.892372962
I pružio nam snimak ekrana.
Nakon toga je izvršena detaljna provera i ustanovljeno je da je opklada uspešno i ispravno izračunata.
Možemo vam pružiti sve dokaze za ovo.
Hvala na razumevanju!
Sa poštovanjem,
Mr.Pacho kazino
Dear Casino Guru Representative,
Thank you for your request.
We would like to inform you that a player contacted us on October 7 regarding an unsuccessful bet in the casino, and provided the following information regarding the bet:
- the exact time, when the bet was placed; 19:15
- the balance before, and after you placed this bet; 40/50 euros
- the name of the game, where you placed the bet; adventue Fire blaze Jackpot
- the amount of the bet. 50 Cent
Id - 105.892372962
And provided us with a screenshot.
After that, a detailed check was carried out and it was found that the bet was successfully and correctly calculated.
We can provide you with all the evidence for this.
To je bila igra i negde na liniji dobitak je nestao. Ništa nije ispravno kreditirano ili provereno! Kao što sam rekao, ovo nije prvi put da se ovo dešava u vašem kazinu koliko sam pročitao! Šav???
That was the game and somewhere along the line the winnings disappeared. Nothing was properly credited or checked! As I said, this isn't the first time this has happened at your casino as I've read! Stitch???
Das war das Spiel und irgend wo in dem Zeitraum ist der Gewinn verschwunden. Es wurde gar nichts ordnungsgemäß gutgeschrieben oder geprüft ! Wie gesagt ist das bei eurem Casino nicht das erste passiert wie ich gelesen habe ! Masche ???
Želimo da vas obavestimo da, da bismo prosledili problem dobavljaču na obradu neuračunatih dobitaka, moramo da identifikujemo ID opklade koju je igrač stavio. Nakon toga, moći ćemo da pronađemo ovu opkladu i da je predamo na obradu.
Igrač mora dati ID opklade, a mi ćemo ga verifikovati bez ikakvih problema. Opklada igrača, koju je klijent naveo gore, je tačno izračunata, a dobitak je pripisan na račun igrača. Sa naše strane, možemo vam pružiti dokaze o tome.
Nadamo se Vašem razumevanju!
Sa poštovanjem,
Mr.Pacho kazino
Dear Casino Guru Representative,
Thank you for your reply.
We would like to inform you that in order to pass the issue to the provider for processing of the unaccounted winnings, we need to identify the ID of the bet that the player has placed. After that, we will be able to find this bet and submit it for processing.
The player must provide the ID of the bet, and we will verify it without any problems. The player's bet, which the client indicated above, was calculated correctly, and the winnings were credited to the player account. For our part, we can provide you with evidence of this.
Mislim da sam se već više nego razjasnio. Tokom ovog perioda u pomenutoj igri, između 19:14/15 časova, osvojeni iznos je jednostavno nestao, nije upisan, bio je prikazan i nestao, čak nije ni prenet. Konačno to razumeš??? Naravno, to nije vidljivo u normalnom toku. Da li se šališ na moj račun??
I think I've already made myself more than clear. During this period of time in the game mentioned, between 7:14 p.m./15 p.m., the amount won simply disappeared, it wasn't credited, it was displayed and it was gone, it wasn't even transferred. You finally understand that ??? Of course it is not visible in the normal course. Are you kidding me??
Ich glaube ich habe mich doch schon mehr als deutlich ausgedrückt.In diesem Zeitraum bei dem erwähnten spiel ist zwischen 19:14/15 der Gewonnene Betrag einfach verschwunden er wurde nicht gutgeschrieben , wurde angezeigt und weg war es wurde nicht mal übertragen verstehen sie das endlich ??? Klar das es nicht im normalen Verlauf sichtbar ist . Wollen sie mich veräppelten??
Zašto sam sada kazino stavio na crnu listu? Zato što žele da razotkriju vašu prevaru ili šta se dešava sa vama? Igrao sam u mnogim kockarnicama, ali ovde ste zaista osvojili džekpot. Nikada mi nije zabranjen pristup kazinu. Bez ruku i nogu. Odjednom sam prekršio nešto! Ako nastavite ovako, poslaću vam proviziju za igru. Tvoj prevarant
Now I was blacklisted by the casino why? Because they want to expose your fraud or what's going on with you? I have played in many casinos but you really hit the jackpot here. I have never been banned from a casino. Without hand and foot. Suddenly I violated something! If you continue like this I will send the game commission down your throat. Your scammer
Jetzt wurde ich vom Casino auf eine schwarze Liste gesetzt wieso ? Weil man eure Betrügereien aufdecken will oder was ist bei euch los ? Ich habe in vielen Casinos gespielt aber hier habt den Bock echt abgeschossen . Bin noch nie von einem Casino gesperrt worden . Ohne Hand und Fuß . Auf einmal habe ich gegen irgend was verstoßen! Wenn ihr so weitermacht schicke ich euch die Spiel Kommission auf den Hals . Ihr Betrüger
Obaveštavamo da nalog igrača registrovan na imejl sa kojeg je ova žalba objavljena nije zatvoren u našem kazinu. Pored toga, bilo je igračkih aktivnosti ovog igrača juče (12.11.2023 UTC) tako da nažalost, ne možemo da razumemo šta igrač pokušava da kaže rečima „na crnoj listi kazina". U ovom slučaju, možemo tražiti od igrača da nam dostavi snimak ekrana greške kako bismo mogli detaljnije analizirati ovu situaciju. Što se tiče neisplaćenih dobitaka, pitanje je još uvek u fazi istrage, pa ćemo vas obavestiti čim nešto saznamo.
Nadamo se Vašem razumevanju!
Sa poštovanjem,
Mr.Pacho kazino
Dear Casino Guru Representative,
Thank you for your reply.
We would like to inform that the player's account registered to the email from which this complaint was published was not closed at our casino. In addition, there was gaming activity from this player yesterday (12.11.2023 UTC time), so unfortunately, we cannot understand what the player is trying to say with the words "blacklisted by the casino". In this case, we can ask the player to provide us with a screenshot of the error so that we can analyze this situation in more detail. As for the unpaid winnings, the issue is still under investigation, so as soon as we know something, we will let you know.
Produžavamo tajmer za 7 dana. Molim vas da znate da ukoliko ne odgovorite u zadato vreme ili ne pružite asistenciju, mi ćemo da odbijemo prigovor.
Dear txxsp2crcw,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
To su mi napisali i nemam pojma. Ako sam iskren, to bi trebalo da bude očigledno negde ovde. Napisano je o Casino Guruu. Ali ni to više ne mogu da nađem. Samo mi je veoma čudno što je kazino tako često radio nešto ovako, novac nestaje. Ovo je prevara u svakom slučaju.
They wrote that to me and I have no idea. If I'm honest it should be obvious somewhere here. Was written about Casino Guru. But I can't find that anymore either. I just find it very strange that the casino has done something like this so often, the money disappears. This is fraud in any case.
Das haben die mir so geschrieben keine Ahnung wenn ich ehrlich bin müsste doch hier irgend wo ersichtlich sein. Wurde über Casino Guru geschrieben . Kann aber auch das nicht mehr finden. Ich finde es nur sehr komisch das das Casino so etwas schon häufiger gemacht hat , das Geld verschwindet . Betrug ist das in jedem Fall .
Želimo da vas obavestimo da smo dobili odgovor od provajdera igre. Oni su primetili da nije bilo grešaka u opkladama igrača tokom vremenskog perioda koji ste tražili da proverimo (19:14 do 19:15). Provajder igre je upravo spomenuo da su dobici 0, tako da ništa nije osvojeno ni u jednom od njih. Takođe imamo sve dokaze za ovu izjavu, tako da možemo da vam pružimo informacije od provajdera igre.
Nadamo se Vašem razumevanju!
Sa poštovanjem,
g. Pačo kazino
Dear Casino Guru Representative,
Thank you for your reply.
We would like to inform you that we have received a response from the game provider. They noted that there were no errors in the player's bets during the time period you asked us to check (7:14 pm to 7:15 pm). The game provider just mentioned that the winnings are 0 so nothing won in any of them. We also have all the evidence for this statement, so we can provide you with information from the game provider.
Velika pomoć! Takva kazina treba zatvoriti. Prevara u svom najboljem izdanju. I nema prave pomoći! Danas možete da falsifikujete račune koliko hoćete. Kao što sam rekao, nisam jedina osoba na internetu kojoj se ovako nešto dogodilo na ovoj sumnjivoj veb stranici. Možda bi trebalo da budeš propisno nadgledan... uživaj u novcu što ne radiš ništa i zajebavaš ljude. Pronađite pravi posao...
Great help! Such casinos should be closed. Fraud at its finest. And no real help! Nowadays you can falsify receipts as much as you want. As I said, I'm not the only person on the internet who has had something like this happen on this dubious website. Maybe you should be properly monitored... enjoy the money for doing nothing and screwing people over. Find real work...
Tolle Hilfe ! Solche Casinos sollte man schließen lassen . Betrug vom aller Feinsten . Und keine wirkliche Hilfe ! Heut zu Tage kann man doch Belege fälschen wie man will . Wie gesagt ich bin nicht die einzigste im Internet der sowas passiert ist auf dieser unseriösen seit . Vielleicht sollte man euch mal richtig kontrollieren… erfreut euch an dem Geld fürs Nix tun und Leute bescheissen . Sucht euch richtige Arbeit …
Želimo da vas obavestimo da smo vam već poslali zvaničan dokaz od provajdera igre, koji sadrži nekoliko snimaka ekrana opklada igrača. Ove opklade su gubile. Nažalost, ne razumemo šta mislite pod „zvaničnom izjavom" u ovom slučaju, pošto je odgovor provajdera bio konačan sa ovim snimcima ekrana.
Nadamo se Vašem razumevanju!
Sa poštovanjem,
g. Pačo kazino
Dear Casino Guru Representative,
Thank you for your reply.
We would like to inform you that we have already sent you an official proof from the game provider, which contains several screenshots of the player's bets. These bets were losing. Unfortunately, we do not understand what you mean by "official statement" in this case, as the response from the provider was a final one with these screenshots.
Zamolio bih vas da nam pošaljete e-poštu od dobavljača igre, uključujući ove snimke ekrana. Samo da bude jasno da je od provajdera igara.
Hvala vam puno unapred na pružanju informacija.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Stefan
Dear MrPacho Casino,
I would like to ask you to provide us with an email from the game provider, including these screenshots. Just to make it clear that it is from the game provider.
Thank you very much in advance for providing the information.
Smatramo da je odluka kazina bila ispravna, ali pošto nismo dobili kompletan dokaz od kazina, ne može se mnogo toga uraditi bez saradnje sa njihove strane. Označiću žalbu kao „nerešenu" u našem sistemu. Razumem da ovo nije zadovoljavajuće rešenje za vaš problem. Međutim, smanjenje rejtinga uzrokovano nerešenim žalbama moglo bi pomoći da se promeni pristup kazina.
U međuvremenu, preporučujem da se obratite nadležnom organu za igre na sreću - Antilephone NV (Kurakao) i da im podnesete žalbu ( [email protected] i/ili [email protected] ). Pre podnošenja žalbe, uverite se da ste dali sve potrebne informacije: svoje lične podatke, detalje o kazinu, podatke za prijavu u kazino, opis problema i prateće priloge ako su potrebni. Imajte na umu da je to prilično pasivno telo za izdavanje dozvola i možete dugo čekati na odgovor.
Možete li mi dati snimak ekrana kada podnesete žalbu nadležnim organima?
Hvala vam puno unapred na pružanju informacija.
Voleo bih da mogu biti od veće pomoći. Iskreno se nadam da se više nećete susresti sa ovakvim problemom.
U slučaju da vam treba pomoć, kontaktirajte me na [email protected] .
S poštovanjem,
Stefan, Kazino.Guru
Dear txxsp2crcw,
We believe that the casino's decision was correct, but since we haven't received the complete evidence from the casino, there is not much that can be done without cooperation from their side. I will mark the complaint as "unresolved" in our system. I understand this is not a satisfactory solution to your issue. However, the decrease in rating caused by unresolved complaints could help to change the casino's approach.
In the meantime, I recommend that you contact the responsible gaming authority - Antillephone N.V. (Curacao) and submit a complaint to them ([email protected] and/or [email protected]). Before submitting the complaint, make sure you provide all the necessary information: your personal data, the casino details, your login details in the casino, the issue description, and supporting attachments if it is needed. Please note it is a rather passive licensing authority and you can wait a long time for an answer.
Could you provide me with a screenshot when you file a complaint to the authority?
Thank you very much in advance for providing the information.
I wish I could be of more help. I sincerely hope you will not come across a problem like this again.
Želimo da vas obavestimo da smo provajderu igara poslali najinformativniju verziju snimka ekrana našeg pisma. „Osetljivi detalji" su anonimni na datom snimku ekrana.
Nadamo se Vašem razumevanju!
Sa poštovanjem,
g. Pačo kazino
Dear Casino Guru Representative,
Hope you are doing well.
We would like to inform you that we have sent the most informative version of the screenshot of our letter to the gaming provider. The "sensitive details" are anonymized in the provided screenshot.
Pregledao sam vaš snimak ekrana i čini se da je legitiman. Hvala vam puno na saradnji.
Zdravo tkksp2crcv,
Provajder igara Plaitech je potvrdio da su igre legitimne.
Iz gore navedenih razloga, ova žalba će sada biti odbijena. Hvala vam na razumevanju, žao mi je što ovom prilikom nismo mogli više pomoći. Ne ustručavajte se da nas kontaktirate ako u budućnosti naiđete na probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom.
Dear MrPacho,
I have reviewed your provided screenshot and it seems legit. Thank you very much for your cooperation.
Hello txxsp2crcw,
The game provider Playtech has confirmed that the games are legitimate.
Due to the aforementioned reasons, this complaint will now be rejected. Thank you for your understanding, I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.
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