Paf Casino - Pelaaja kyseenalaistaa pelin toimivuuden ja RTP:n tarkkuuden.

Hello!

I have again questioned the functionality of the game Reactoonz from the Play'n Go game developer!

I've noticed the game behaving strangely for a long time and have also asked customer service about it. Now I'm trying to figure out the amount of my bets to calculate the RTP.

The site offers a 96.51% RTP for the game in question and mine was 88% after ~120,000 spins.

When I asked the casino for data on my bets, they said they only had a year's worth of data. I asked them to check with the game manufacturer and after 4 weeks I received the readings. The game manufacturer said "Number of spins played 117108, total bets € 101225.99 and total winnings €89009.73."

I asked for the log file that the readings are based on. After 2 weeks I received the file, which was Paff's own logs, because the game manufacturer didn't have any logs...

The logs revealed completely different bet/spin/loss amounts than the game manufacturer had reported. Paffi also said that the game manufacturer's values ​​do not include all my bets from years ago, but their logs do and they cover my entire game history in that game. However, the values ​​from the longer game history were smaller than the "not all-encompassing" game manufacturer's values.

Readings reported by the game manufacturer.

Spins: 117108 pcs, Total bets € 101225.99 Total winnings €89009.73.

Readings narrated by Paff.

Total Stakes: €90234.29

Total Wins: €79581.97

Total Profit: €-10652.32

Return to Player (RTP): 88.19%

Number of Bets: 98493

Number of Wins: 53241

Hit Rate: 54.06%.

So I'm questioning the functionality and reliability of this game maker again! I'll also attach "The cumulative profit over time is shown in this graph" which shows how the game stopped working in my opinion.

Hei!

Olen taas kyseinalaistanut Play'n Go pelinvalmistajan pelin Reactoonz toimivuuden!

Huomasin jo pitkään pelin käyttäytyvä oudosti ja kyselin siitä myös asiakaspalvelusta. Nyt lähin selvittämään panostuksieni määrää laskeakseni Rtp:n.

Sivusto tarjoaa kyseiselle pelille 96.51% Rtp:n ja omani oli ~120 000 kierroksen jälkeen 88%.

Pyytäessäni dataa panostuksistani kasinolta he ilmoittivat, että heillä on vaan vuoden verran dataa. Pyysin heitä selvittämään asiaa pelinvalmistajan kautta ja 4 viikon jälkeen sain lukemat. Pelinvalmistaja ilmoitti "Pelattujen kierrosten määrä 117108 kpl, kokonaispanokset 101225,99 € ja kokonaisvoitot 89009,73 €."

Pyysin logitiedostoa johon lukemat perustuvat. 2 viikon päästä sain tiedoston jotka oli kuitenkin Paffin omat logit, koska pelinvalmistajalla ei kuulema ollut logeja...

Logeista selvisi aivan eri panos/kierros/tappio määrät mitä pelinvalmistaja oli ilmoittanut. Paffi vielä kertoi että pelinvalmistajan arvoissa ei ole kaikkia panostuksiani vuosien takaa, mutta heidän logeissa on ja ne kattaa koko pelihistoriani kyseisessä pelissä. Pidemmän pelihistorian arvot olivat kuitenkin pienempiä kun "ei kaiken kattavan" pelinvalmistajan arvot.

Pelinvalmistajan kertomat lukemat.

Kierrokset : 117108 kpl, Kokonaispanokset 101225,99 € Kokonaisvoitot 89009,73 €.

Paffin kertomat lukemat.

Total Stakes: €90234.29

Total Wins: €79581.97

Total Profit: €-10652.32

Return to Player (RTP): 88.19%

Number of Bets: 98493

Number of Wins: 53241

Hit Rate: 54.06%.

Eli kyseinalaistan taas tämän pelinvalmistajan toimivuuden ja luotettavuuden! Laitan vielä liitteeksi " The cumulative profit over time is shown in this graph" josta näkee miten peli lakkasi mielestäni toimimasta..

Dear mal3c,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your negative experience with Paf Casino.

Please allow me to ask you a few questions so I can better understand the situation.

• Did the casino specify the timeframe of the data they keep?
• Did the casino specify the timeframe of the data they relayed to you from the game provider?
• Would you be able to share the game history made available to you by the casino? Share it with me at tomas@casino.guru

Thank you very much in advance for your reply.

Best regards,

Tomas

The casino specified a time frame, but the game manufacturer did not, as they are not willing to release that information. However, the casino said that their logs are from a longer period than the game manufacturer's.

Kasino määritteli aikavälin, mutta pelinvalmistaja ei, koska ei suostu luovuttamaan niitä tietoja. Kasino kuitenkin kertoi että heidän loginsa on pidemmältä ajalta, kuin pelinvalmistajan.

Thanks for your patience and for submitting information.

I went over the evidence.

Even if the records you were provided might differ, we are unable to determine that the casino is in any way liable to you. Moreover, we aren't in a position to confront the game provider regarding its reliability either, as we don't deal with issues regarding games and game providers.

Since the records come from a very long time period of 6+ years, our only explanation is that there were issues with recordkeeping, however, it's not something we can confront the casino about.

Due to the aforementioned reasons, this complaint will now be closed. Thank you for your understanding. I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into issues with any online casino in the future.