Evo šta se desilo:
Ukupno sam izgubio oko 5.600 evra u onlajn kazinu rooster.bet. Jednog dana, nakon niza loših sreća, dobio sam bonus od 200 evra sa maksimalnim dobitkom od 2.000 evra. Uspeo sam da ispunim uslov klađenja i moj konačni dobitak od oko 2.900 evra je automatski ograničen na 2.000 evra od strane softvera kazina. Pre nego što sam nastavio da igram, napravio sam snimak ekrana svog stanja, koji jasno pokazuje da je na mom računu bilo 2.000 evra pravog novca (nemačke reči „Durch Bonus gesperrt" se prevode kao „ograničeno bonusom"). Snimak ekrana otpremam uz ovu žalbu.
Pošto snimak ekrana jasno pokazuje da sredstva više nisu (!) bila ograničena bonusom, odlučio sam da nastavim da igram na sopstveni rizik. Uspeo sam da završim sa 9.304,78 evra. Ali onda je kazino ponovo ograničio dobitak (po drugi put!) na 2.000 evra. Rečeno mi je da prvo moram da unovčim pre nego što nastavim da igram. Ovo nije fer. Tražim povraćaj tih 7.304 evra, koje je kazino konfiskovao nakon što se bonus za povraćaj novca pretvorio u pravi novac.
Kazino se poziva na svoje Uslove i odredbe. Međutim, snimak ekrana koji sam napravio od stanja na mom računu jasno pokazuje da je stanje od 2.000 evra bilo pravi novac bez ikakvih ograničenja. Ako kazino zahteva da se ovih 2.000 evra prvo isplati, onda ovo ograničenje mora biti vidljivo prilikom pregleda stanja na računu. Ali u stanju na mom računu nije bilo nikakve napomene koja bi pokazivala da ovih 2.000 evra i dalje podleže uslovu za bonus (na primer, „prvo se isplati").
Evo šta ja mislim: Ograničavanje sa 2.900 evra na 2.000 evra je bilo u redu, jer je to u skladu sa pravilima maksimalnog dobitka od 2.000 evra. Ali kada je ovih 2.000 evra dodato na stanje mog računa kao pravi novac (pogledajte moj snimak ekrana), nije bilo fer da ponovo ograničim dalje dobitke. Nije bilo fer jer sam mogao ponovo da izgubim ovih 2.000 evra kada sam nastavio da igram.
Već sam u kontaktu sa Jozefom K. iz casino.guru-a u vezi sa ovim slučajem. Napisao mi je: „Na osnovu podataka koje ste predstavili, prema našoj metodologiji se ne slažemo kada se ograničenje primenjuje dva puta. To nema smisla. Kakva bi to razlika napravilo u poređenju sa isplatom gotovine i ponovnim depozitom?"
Nema smisla unovčiti ovih 2.000 evra, a zatim ponovo uplatiti isti iznos minut kasnije za dalju igru. Ne bi bilo nikakve razlike u mom stanju da sam unovčio i ponovo uplatio ova sredstva. Odlučio sam da nastavim da igram na sopstveni rizik i upravo to bi kazino trebalo da poštuje.
Zamolio sam kazino da mi vrati 7.304,78 evra koje su konfiskovali nakon što se (!) 2.000 evra pretvorilo u pravi novac. Čak sam pokazao svoju lojalnost tako što sam nakon toga uplatio (i izgubio) još 5.000 evra. Ali onda, nakon još jednog niza loših sreća, uprava kazina je odlučila da mi zatvori nalog. Sada mi je rečeno da kazino ne komentariše tu odluku. Nije mi rečeno zašto je moj nalog zatvoren. I verujem da je protiv etičkih standarda ako se bonus novac koji je pretvoren u pravi novac ne tretira kao pravi novac.
Ljubazno molim casino.guru da interveniše i da u moje ime zatraži povraćaj novca od 7.304,78 evra.
L****
Here is what happened:
In total, I lost a total of approximately 5,600 Euro at the online casino rooster.bet. On one day, after a streak of bad luck, I was given a 200 Euro cashback-bonus with a maximum win of 2,000 Euro. I was able to fulfill the wagering requirement and my final win of approximately 2,900 Euro was automatically capped to 2,000 Euro by the casino software. Before I continued playing, I made a screenshot of my balance, which clearly shows that there were 2,000 Euro real cash in my account (the German words "Durch Bonus gesperrt" translate as "restricted by a bonus"). I upload the screenshot to this complaint.
Because the screenshot clearly shows that the funds were not (!) restricted by a bonus anymore, I decided to keep on playing at my own risk. I was able to end up with 9,304.78 Euro. But then, the casino capped the win again (for a second time!) to 2,000 Euro. I was told that I need to cash out first before continue playing. This is not fair. I request a refund of those 7,304 Euro, which the casino confiscated after the cashback-bonus had turned into real cash.
The casino refers to its T&Cs. However, the screenshot that I made of my account balance clearly shows that the 2,000 Euro balance were real cash without any restrictions attached. If the casino requests that these 2,000 Euro must be cashed out first, then this restriction must be made visible when viewing the account balance. But there was no note whatsoever in my account balance showing that these 2,000 Euro are still subject to a bonus requirement (for example "to be cashed out first").
Here is what I think: Capping the 2,900 Euro to 2,000 Euro was OK, because it is according to the rules of the 2,000 Euro maximum win. But when these 2,000 Euro were added to my account balance as real cash (see my screenshot), it was not fair to cap further winnings again. It was not fair because I could as well have lost these 2,000 Euro again when I continued playing.
I am already in contact with Jozef K from casino.guru regarding this case. He wrote to me: "Based on the data you presented, by our methodology we do not agree when the cap is applied twice. It does not make sense. What difference would it make compared to cashing out and redepositing back?"
It does not make sense to cash out these 2,000 Euro and then to re-deposit the same amount one minute later for further play. There would have been no difference regarding my balance if I had cashed out and re-deposited these funds. I decided to keep on playing at my own risk and precisely that should be honored by the casino.
I asked the casino to refund the 7,304.78 Euro that they confiscated after (!) the 2,000 Euro had turned into real cash. I even showed my loyalty by depositing (and losing) another 5,000 Euro thereafter. But then, after another streak of bad luck, the casino management decided to close my account. Now I am told that the casino does not comment on that decision. I was not told why my account was closed. And I believe that it is against ethical standards if bonus money that has turned into real cash is not treated as real cash.
I kindly ask casino.guru to step in and to request a refund of 7,304.78 Euro on my behalf.
L****
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